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This may come as a shock, but the A12X doesn't work by itself. It requires ram and a storage. The M1 iPad has a lot more ram and faster storage, so did the A12X Mac mini.

I have already pointed out 6gb ram is more than enough and pro 11" storage speed is faster than m1 air
 
It's C, people like you who are ******** on others for being upset our brand new devices can't run a software feature in the latest OS.

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I'm not criticising people for being upset: it's the usual MR-style lack of reasoning and critical thinking i.e. the automatic assumption that something Apple does that people don't like / even slightly disadvantages them is being done for malicious commercial reasons / just to spite people. One thing to think about: do you really think that no-one working at Apple will have (or will have family members or friends with) older devices? Why would they want to wreck their own / family / friends experience by deliberately making those devices work worse? Doesn't make sense, but every iOS / macOS / iPadOS update we get "they're deliberately making older devices run slower to make people upgrade".

p.s. the previous-generation iPad Pros were sold up until May 2021, so the youngest of those (unless bought from a reseller after Apple stopped selling them) would be over a year old now. That doesn't meet any reasonable definition of "brand new".

It seems clear to me that they had a standard they wanted to reach, namely instantaneous switching without reloading (a la macOS).
We'll have none of your reasoned argument here! Torch-wielding mobs only!
 
I have already pointed out 6gb ram is more than enough and pro 11" storage speed is faster than m1 air
I didn't realize 6gb was enough, to run 4 iPad apps of any size without them ever having to relaunch. You should get a job at as an Apple engineer so that you can explain it to them.

Stage Manager has 4 Apps open running in real time, they can't be closing because they ran out of ram.
 
I didn't realize 6gb was enough, to run 4 iPad apps of any size without them ever having to relaunch. You should get a job at as an Apple engineer so that you can explain it to them.

Stage Manager has 4 Apps open running in real time, they can't be closing because they ran out of ram.

Turn on 4 apps or more is nothing new for windows or Linux, do they require 8gb to install the OS?
 
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I didn't realize 6gb was enough, to run 4 iPad apps of any size without them ever having to relaunch. You should get a job at as an Apple engineer so that you can explain it to them.

Stage Manager has 4 Apps open running in real time, they can't be closing because they ran out of ram.
There is no point continuing this discussion with these people. They would rather have the broken version that Apple discarded already as unusable.
 
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Turn on 4 apps or more is nothing new for windows or Linux, do they require 8gb to install the OS?
You do realize that this is a completely different OS, right? Completely. Different. And not designed to run multiple apps at once. Literally the opposite. Purposely and deliberately designed from the beginning to run 1 App, with every other app in some state of hibernation.

They have worked backwards on iPadOS to get it to support more, like picture in picture, and then slide over, and then side by side apps. All of which were done in a deliberate way so as to preserve resources and avoid the situation that Stage Manager creates.

Now they want to push it further, because they can, with enough memory and swap.
 
You do realize that this is a completely different OS, right? Completely. Different. And not designed to run multiple apps at once. Literally the opposite. Purposely and deliberately designed from the beginning to run 1 App, with every other app in some state of hibernation.

They have worked backwards on iPadOS to get it to support more, like picture in picture, and then slide over, and then side by side apps. All of which were done in a deliberate way so as to preserve resources and avoid the situation that Stage Manager creates.

Now they want to push it further, because they can, with enough memory and swap.

They limit 1 active app just because of Best marketing for battery hours.
 
It is all about Apple forces you to buy M1 if you want stage managing, just pure about money. iPad 2020 hardware is more than enough to run full version of ipadOS 16.
You're right it is about money, but not about forcing people to upgrade for a feature to get that money. Apple has a strong fan base, because Apple makes great products, if they start making things that don't "just work", then that fan base will start shrinking. A very tiny number of people will upgrade their iPad to an M1 iPad for this feature alone, if any. Apple will make more money from people having 4 year old devices that still run great with the newest OS without stuttering and dropped frames, because when someone that is not an Apple fan, is looking between a new Samsung tablet or an iPad, will think "well my iPad was working good until the new update, I should try Samsung this time".
 
But those choppy ones apparently did meet Apple's satisfaction. I mean Apple didn't disable those animation on those Intel Macs, right? So they were definitely satisfied with the choppiness. ;)
true, but switching users every once in a while doesn't really compare to the use case of stage manager. it might highlight the hardware restraints non M1 machines suffer from.
 
It is all about Apple forces you to buy M1 if you want stage managing, just pure about money. iPad 2020 hardware is more than enough to run full version of ipadOS 16.
No one is forcing you to buy a new iPad when yours is completely functional for what you bought it for. Cry harder.
 
LMAO. K. Done with this.


The reality, though, is that the iPhone OS is already capable of multitasking, technically speaking. Certain apps and functions already multitask. You can switch to email or calendar while a voice call is still connected in the background. You can listen to music from the iPod function while continuing to use other apps on the iPhone. The multitasking is there; Apple has just restricted which apps actually have access to it.

This was a 12 years old article, but 12 years later there is still someone like you believe IOS or ipadOS is really designed to run one app only, lol xd.
 
lol. Apple is not going to turn your iPad into a macOS device. It's not going to happen. They don't want to. You can go back to working on an 16 yo e-machine PC if thats all you need.
Do you actually think that their 2020 iPad Pro can’t display some windows off to the left? It’s much more likely that they need a software selling point for pro users.
 
You're right it is about money, but not about forcing people to upgrade for a feature to get that money. Apple has a strong fan base, because Apple makes great products, if they start making things that don't "just work", then that fan base will start shrinking. A very tiny number of people will upgrade their iPad to an M1 iPad for this feature alone, if any. Apple will make more money from people having 4 year old devices that still run great with the newest OS without stuttering and dropped frames, because when someone that is not an Apple fan, is looking between a new Samsung tablet or an iPad, will think "well my iPad was working good until the new update, I should try Samsung this time".

Well put, it's what I've been saying. Forced upgrades are not a good business strategy for Apple and they know it. They *want* this feature on as many iPads as they can put it (to make iPads more competitive compared to, say, Chromebooks, to make developers more interested in optimizing apps for this, to make better products and users more happy, etc.) - but it has to work well. They didn't put an M1 into iPads just because they had some lying around, they had reasons and a long-term plan and this is one of the elements of that plan.
 

The reality, though, is that the iPhone OS is already capable of multitasking, technically speaking. Certain apps and functions already multitask. You can switch to email or calendar while a voice call is still connected in the background. You can listen to music from the iPod function while continuing to use other apps on the iPhone. The multitasking is there; Apple has just restricted which apps actually have access to it.

This was a 12 years old article, but 12 years later there is still someone like you believe IOS or ipadOS is really designed to run one app only, lol xd.

One app on the screen at a time. That was the initial design, then - as memory grew - it became two apps or three. Now we're getting to 8 apps at the same time. 12 years ago this level of responsiveness wouldn't be possible - you could either have responsive devices that have everything in RAM or less responsive devices that use disks for virtual memory. This is the first time you can have your cake and eat it too.

You're either deliberately twisting everyone's words or just not capable of understanding. Or both.
 
One app on the screen at a time. That was the initial design, then - as memory grew - it became two apps or three. Now we're getting to 8 apps at the same time. 12 years ago this level of responsiveness wouldn't be possible - you could either have responsive devices that have everything in RAM or less responsive devices that use disks for virtual memory. This is the first time you can have your cake and eat it too.

You're either deliberately twisting everyone's words or just not capable of understanding. Or both.

I argue with links and benchmarks, guys like you keep sharing your "feeling" without any links,benchmarks,figures. Continue your love with Apple, no point for me to continue to talk about the truth.
 
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