Apple Tester Claims to Be 'Blown Away' by AR/VR Headset, Says There Was Giant Development Leap

[PowerButton]

🤨 Fitness on any kind of wearable like this just doesn’t work. I mean if your idea of fitness is getting up from the couch and walking around, then perhaps it will work, but if you’re actually working out, then no.

Who wants to sweat in a $3,000 headset? 🤷‍♂️

 

[PowerButton]

I find VR uncomfortable. It's disorienting, dissociative and sometimes nauseating. So I have no intention of obtaining any headset. I also can't think of any personal use case for one.
But I can't wait to see the software and maybe try it out if I ever bump into a demo unit.

Ideally in the future I can see it tied into AI. So for example, if you wanted to replace our spark plugs in your car you could wear the AR headset and it would identify the parts you need to take off, with bolt locations, sizes, and torque values. It would be a whole real-time walkthrough. You could even ask it questions like Chat GPT.

 

[Ethosik]

Can we just get this released already? I’m tired of 5 posts on this to one mac post.

 

[Born Again]

Someone give me a good use case.

 

[ProfessionalFan]

Who wants to sweat in a $3,000 headset?

People get sweat on their gym equipment all the time and it can cost a lot more than 3k.

 

[pacalis]

Someone give me a good use case.

There seems to be only one.

Apple will use it for a 30%+ margin per unit.

 

[GMShadow]

Guys and girls, this guy says your complaints about unstable software on these forums are meaningless.

Therefore we should stop complaining about bugs and never report a bug or crash again.

This guy clearly is a genius of product development.

VR on your head, unstable software and application crashes on your face, totally cool.

That is literally *not* what I said, and enjoy being added to my ignore list.

 

[surfzen21]

I'll wait for the version that is a contact lens with transparency mode.

 

[richard371]

"...with the battery instead worn at the waist to prevent the headset from being too heavy."

HARD PASS. I refuse to believe it'll be designed this way.

I would green-light a PLUTONIUM BATTERY before allowing a wired battery pack at the waist.

I hope it is this way. More comfortable to wear, less heat, safer, I hope they put the cpu etc in the waist pack too. Can also have a bigger longer battery. If its just the battery you could buy a second or third. Im 100 percent for it. This is the way.

 

[nylonsteel]

i dont have an overwhelming need for it - at 3k per headset; will that convert to profitable sales for investors?
"...questioned whether the headset is a "solution in search of a problem" and if it is "driven by the same clarity" as other Apple devices."

 

[Ethosik]

Exactly. I’m curious how they see this fit in everyday life

Run or walk dog at 6 am
Work from 8 am to 5 pm
5:30 pm Pick up kids go to park
6:30 pm dinner
7:30 pm wind down kids
8:30 pm Zwift sesh
9:30 pm shower
10 pm read mac rumors and play wordle and watch streaming
11 pm sleep.

Where is the time to wear VR headsets?!?!?!

Exactly. People are pointing to the Apple Watch as an example but it’s completely different. It’s a completely passive device that you can have on at all times and still do all the activities you mentioned. Without taking your focus. Some days I look at my watch just a few times because I’m busy.

 

[enterthemerdaverse]

Exactly. People are pointing to the Apple Watch as an example but it’s completely different. It’s a completely passive device that you can have on at all times and still do all the activities you mentioned. Without taking your focus. Some days I look at my watch just a few times because I’m busy.

This is same dilema I have. Time and resource. I have Mac Studio at work and iPad Pro at home.

Work from 9 am to 6 pm
5:30 pm travel home
6:30 shower
7:30 pm dinner
7:30 pm wind down with iPad Pro and iPhone.
9:30 pm television
11 pm sleep.

Do they expect I throw away iPad Pro and Television when they are more useful and can be used in a normal comfortable way?

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

Apple only hoped to sell a million iPhones per year.

10 Million*, in their first full calendar year, which would’ve been 2008.
That would’ve given them about 1% market share, which is exactly what Steve said on stage.
And by the way, I’m pretty sure they not only met but succeeded that goal in calendar year 2008, as by the time of the iPhone 3GS, they had already sold over 20 million phones.
I don’t think it’s ever stated enough just how much more successful the second generation iPhone 3G was compared to the original.
The iPhone put them on the map, the 3G took the map, threw it away and created a completely new fancier map where Apple could dominate.

 

[Born Again]

This is same dilema I have. Time and resource. I have Mac Studio at work and iPad Pro at home.

Work from 9 am to 6 pm
5:30 pm travel home
6:30 shower
7:30 pm dinner
7:30 pm wind down with iPad Pro and iPhone.
9:30 pm television
11 pm sleep.

Do they expect I throw away iPad Pro and Television when they are more useful and can be used in a normal comfortable way?

& wait until you have kids. Meta & Apple are out of their minds if they think VR is going to take off.

VR is a life style change. Maybe they see TV as that entry point?

 

[3xBoom]

screw the price at this point... I'd like to hear what it can do for me in the first place.

 

[nevesis]

This will start at $999 - just watch

Based on the rumors of the displays Apple is planning on using, this would be impossible. It's going to be a very premium niche product at first. They're going to build a larger ecosystem for it, and when the more affordable, consumer version becomes available, the capability of it will be that much more mature and an overall better UX for mass adoption.

 

[name99]

Uh-huh…Sure
/s

Here comes the hype campaign
So much of everything is BS and hype now…and so little actual substance

Is this thing still going to be counting on “dumber than rocks” Siri?

I don't know about hype.
It's interesting to compare it to the Humane device which seems to have launched like a lead zeppelin.
I saw a few tweets about it this morning, but mostly from the "anything but Apple" crowd. I did not see any serious pushback against the obvious questions like "But Why?" and "Can't I do that on my watch?"

It's easy to claim anything from any company you don't like is hype, and most people have zero interest in being honest either with themselves or with anyone else.
But to my eyes
- Humane is hype, starting with the entire focus of their PR as not about the technology but about how "we can and will outWoke any other tech company out there!"
- Apple cannot be hype in the sense that they haven't even launched any advertising yet!
And if it operates at the level of say the aWatch launch, it won't be hype insofar as it concentrates on "this is the device; you can use it to do X Y and Z".
The closest, IMHO, Apple came to hype with aWatch was the gold one and trying to glom onto the idea that aWatch could be jewelry, which I (and almost everyone else) dismissed as clearly idiotic.

 

[Ethosik]

& wait until you have kids. Meta & Apple are out of their minds if they think VR is going to take off.

VR is a life style change. Maybe they see TV as that entry point?

Why do people want to live in VR? This is going to be a health crisis. Everyone sitting at home in VR worlds not walking or socializing in person. This will have disastrous effects.

Just take a look at the ending of Ready Player One and what they did to combat this issue.

 

[macduke]

For $3000 it better transport me into The Matrix. Otherwise I’m out. Sounds like an overhyped product in search of a problem. People aren’t going to want to wear bulky headsets with wires a hip-worn battery packs. Just stupidity. We’ll see. Maybe those leaks were purposeful to throw off the competition. I remember the iPad was supposed to cost $1000 at launch and it was half that. $1500 seems a lot more reasonable and if it had some really cool experiences I’d be more willing to possibly buy one after trying it out and liking it.

 

[turbineseaplane]

It's interesting to compare it to the Humane device which seems to have launched like a lead zeppelin.

I agree with you -- that thing seems like a solution in search of a problem

Walking around with some thing recording and interacting with me all the time sounds awful, quite frankly

Humane, the company, seems like the next version of Magic Leap

 

[DaveN]

Apparently I’m a minority. I’m not going to judge it until after it comes out.

 

[Birdmanrsx]

I’ll be patiently waiting for the first drop test off a building to see how durable it is! 🙄

 

[JaimeTeran]

Apple success is related closely to the way we interact with their devices. The Mac has the mouse and the GUI, the iPod had the wheel, and of course, on iOS devices, multitouch. If there is a revolution here, it is going to be on how we interact with that device.

 

[Tagbert]

No, its common sense. Since Apple hasnt managed to present an alternative or new UseCase, it will be as underwhelming as other AR/VR Applications. Only with a much higher Price-Point. (At the Management-Event the only UseCase shown was a Facetime Call. Come on...) Also Bloombergs predicts Gaming and common VR/AR Topics for Apples MR headset. In my opinion that wont be enough.

Even if the Hardware delivers, the Software wont.

Apple has not presented any use cases for this device. That’s what we will hear at WWDC. None of what we have heard is certain until Apple opens up the curtain.

I think that one of the reasons that Apple wants to launch this now, even though the hardware is probably not a sleek as they want it to be is that they need to get this into the hands of developers and users to see what people do with it. Apple can come up with some ideas but they can’t anticipate fully what resonates with users and what kinds of applications developers will come up with.

Yes, this will be expensive. Yes, the software story is incomplete. This is a starting point, not the endpoint. This of this more like the Lisa and expect that a Macintosh is likely to follow.

 

[Tagbert]

I will pass, but thanks anyways apple.

What helped you decide?

Wast it the presentation or the hands on experience?