Meanwhile they have had criminal cases thrown out here in Canada because they have taken so long to process.Kind of odd how quickly this happened up here in Canada.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jordan-cases-stayed-1.4192823
Meanwhile they have had criminal cases thrown out here in Canada because they have taken so long to process.Kind of odd how quickly this happened up here in Canada.
correct but it runs full speed until the battery dies.. Apples answer is and was BS. Apple was hiding a battery issue. look at the facts.They do. Measure how many hours+minutes a laptop can run benchmarks in full turbo mode (fans full speed) when new, and when near end-of-life when running off the original battery.
And you have no idea how many did. Must be quite a few though since this problem now has governments looking into it.
Over 60 lawsuits, maybe legit maybe not, but it seems likely that its more than many here want to think
If they find a smoking gun,what will your answer be then?Never claimed I did.
The number is lawsuits is irrelevant. They were ALL filed without any evidence whatsoever. As I said, they’re HOPING to find something later on. They rushed to file simply so they could be first and get in on any possible money. Not because they’ve done any in-depth investigation or data gathering.
I have lived with a <80% iPhone 6 for about half a year now until i replaced the battery yesterday, i never realized how slow my phone was thanks to the safeguard implemented by Apple.
But seriously, my phone is 4 years old now and lithium batteries wear out, cant expect them to last forever, no-one should, my old battery had almost 1500 cycles during these 4 years and yesterday i extended my phones life for 2 years atleast (although i will upgrade to the next X in the fall) for 29 dollar, the cost of 3-4 pizzas so i really dont get what all the fuzz is about, battery replacement was cheap before too and Apple gave the phones extended lives through software to safeguard the phones from crashing/turning off thanks to low voltage with the old and crappy batteries.
Dont know why some people are upset by all this
If they find a smoking gun,what will your answer be then?
I understand that filing a lawsuit doesn't mean its going to win, but it does lead one to believe its a widespread issue
Never claimed I did.
The number is lawsuits is irrelevant. They were ALL filed without any evidence whatsoever. As I said, they’re HOPING to find something later on. They rushed to file simply so they could be first and get in on any possible money. Not because they’ve done any in-depth investigation or data gathering.
How do you know they have no evidence? It's certainly not a requirement before filing a lawsuit, is it?
Millions of customers having the same issue on their phone is an evidence. The fact that the practice is uncovered only by benchmark app is an evidence.
Apple is trying to make this sound like a technical decision. I get it. I don't believe it.
Lol no. Do you think anyone at Apple is using an iPad mini 4 or an iPhone se? Just thought you sounded like any other conspiracy nut about why you were given an UPGRADE from a 6+ to a 6s+.Wow. Work for Apple?
Maybe in the US, my wife was refused we even said we were willing to pay. According to coconut battery it had 72% remaining. Yet it passed apples test.You’ve really got it bad don’t you? You think that because you have a official complaint channel through your government when you can’t get your way that you are somehow immune from supply and demand of global part constraints?
I’m so sorry you got an upgraded device, that must be so hard to deal with, I can’t imagine the hardships you’re going through. Don’t forget to submit a complaint via the Spanish equivalent of the B.B.B. the next time you’re food isn’t exactly how you ordered it.
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Apple will only officially “refuse” to repair a battery if it’s above 80% and covered under warranty in some way. You’ve always been able to pay full cost for a battery replacement, Apple just wouldn’t do it for free unless it’s considered consumed or failed and under warranty. So
I don’t see how it could “pass” when it can only be failed or consumed after 80%
Millions of customers? Where’s your data to show this? See the problem? Nobody except Apple truly knows how many people have this issue. Nobody but Apple knows how many people are getting batteries replaced. Nobody but Apple knows how many people upgraded. And nobody but Apple will know the ratio of customers who choose throttling and reliability vs full speed with potential shutdowns when this feature gets added to iOS. By comparison the lawyers don’t know anything.
Apple's Canada division and Geekbench maker John Poole today testified before a House of Commons committee on industry, science, and technology in Canada to address the power management features Apple introduced in older iPhones in iOS 10.2.1, reports iMore.
Poole was on hand because back in late December, he used his Geekbench platform to confirm the link between degraded iPhone batteries in older iPhones and processor slowdowns, which Apple had not, at the time, clearly explained.
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Apple Canada was there to answer questions and share facts about why Apple implemented the feature in the first place, a topic that's been previously covered in support documents and a letter to customers.
As part of Apple's testimony, Jacqueline Famulak, Apple Canada's Manager of Legal and Government Affairs, provided a lengthy statement that largely repeats prior statements Apple has offered in the United States.
Famulak reiterated that Apple would "never intentionally" shorten the life of an Apple product to drive customer upgrades, and she explained that Apple added power management features in iOS 10.2.1 to allow customers to continue to use iPhones with aging batteries. A portion of the statement shared by iMore:Famulak went on to explain that Apple is offering $35 battery replacements in Canada, down from $99 ($29 in the U.S., down from $79) and that iOS 11.3, coming this spring, will offer customers more information about the health of their iPhone's battery and allow the power management features to be turned off.
The House of Commons is aiming to make sure Canadian consumers are being treated fairly by Apple, and it's possible that the Competition Bureau in Canada, also at today's committee meeting, will launch an investigation. Apple will also be facing government inquiries in other countries, including the United States.
The full text of the statement Apple provided to the House of Commons committee can be read over at iMore.
Article Link: Apple Testifies on iPhone Throttling Before Canadian Parliamentary Committee
Old battery with low capacity to hold charge is not defective component, batteries won't last for ever, they degrade over time, every battery on every device degrades over time.Charging to temporarily fix a defective component and making it seem like they're the good ones trying to help you. God, Apple marketing is truly brilliant.
Yeah, because if that was an issue, why would older Android phones that are out there not have this same problem?
Apple is very elaborately full of crap.
It's better to fester up now and ask for forgiveness than keep lying because the truth will come out sooner or later. Tim Cook showed multiple behavioral signs of not telling the truth explaining the battery throttling to ABC.
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Poole was on hand because back in late December, he used his Geekbench platform to confirm the link between degraded iPhone batteries in older iPhones and processor slowdowns, which Apple had not, at the time, clearly explained.
I disagree. My 5s and 6s are flying on 11.3b3. Better than iOS 7 and iOS 9/10."First, Apple would never intentionally do anything to shorten the life of any Apple product or degrade the user experience in order to drive customer upgrades. "
Except every single IOS update does this exact thing, slows the UI down for older phones.
An excellent case in point is the home button delay newly introduced in iOS 11 to slow it down to make the X more appealing. The battery is just one of the many instances where they were caught with their pants down. There's probably many such stunts programmed into the code to force the user into getting a newer phone."First, Apple would never intentionally do anything to shorten the life of any Apple product or degrade the user experience in order to drive customer upgrades. "
Except every single IOS update does this exact thing, slows the UI down for older phones.
Not surprised st all. This was supposed to have never gotten out. But they have gotten incompetent in software lately so it came out anyway.It's better to fester up now and ask for forgiveness than keep lying because the truth will come out sooner or later. Tim Cook showed multiple behavioral signs of not telling the truth explaining the battery throttling to ABC.
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So the reason the X sold so well is because all physical and electronic home buttons behave in a consistent manner? As i said previously Apple fixed a bug...An excellent case in point is the home button delay newly introduced in iOS 11 to slow it down to make the X more appealing. The battery is just one of the many instances where they were caught with their pants down. There's probably many such stunts programmed into the code to force the user into getting a newer phone.
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Not surprised st all. This was supposed to have never gotten out. But they have gotten incompetent in software lately so it came out anyway.
It sold well because Apple intentionally hamstrung the 8 and 8 Plus and the other home button iPhones to make the X seem alluring. If the 8 had the same instant response as the X, many would have been influenced into buying the 8.So the reason the X sold so well is because all physical and electronic home buttons behave in a consistent manner?
No. Apple made it slower on purpose to increase sales of the more expensive product. The purpose shouldn't and wasn't consistency. The solid state home button is flat out superior to the physical button and has more advantages. No need to dumb down a superior product to the level of an inferior one.As i said previously Apple fixed a bug...
I think you're confusing what needs to be proven. Apple throttles their devices when the battery ages. There's no evidence needed for that, Apple has publicly stated as much. Every CPU more sophisticated than an 8051 is throttled these days for any number of reasons. We just saw the S9 multicore benchmarks fall far short of what their single core would suggest, presumably because they can't run all cores full speed simultaneously. Every Intel processor is throttled. Even my Raspberry Pi is throttled.How do you know they have no evidence? It's certainly not a requirement before filing a lawsuit, is it?
Millions of customers having the same issue on their phone is an evidence. The fact that the practice is uncovered only by benchmark app is an evidence.
Apple is trying to make this sound like a technical decision. I get it. I don't believe it.