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Trump literally told people to go fight. He actually used those exact words. What we are seeing now is the effect of online forums that serve as echo chambers for extreme viewpoints, radicalizing people further and further. The internet is dangerous, it's something I don't think early internet evangelists realized would happen, but it is clearly happening on both sides. The left and right in this country are both becoming more radical. It is in everyone's interest to tamp down the online rhetoric before it becomes too extreme, and the place to draw the line is calls for violence and harm. Those should not be tolerated on mainstream platforms, and good on Apple and Google and Twitter for drawing a line in the sand.

Do you really think he meant physically fight? I mean he’s been saying he’s fighting for America his entire presidency - dontcha think maybe it was meant in that way? Sure there will be radicals that will always take it further, but ultimately people are responsible for their own actions.
 
Really sad events to witness. You can like or dislike Trump, be he was elected by the people of the USA.
Trump was constantly harassed by the media, globally. Everyday a bunch of bad news were published.
Of course after 4 year lot of people started to dislike him, not by any of his decisions as the President,
but only for the constants attacks on him. Remember the time that he looked at the sun during the eclipse?
He did without protection the first time...for less than a second, that thing made HEADLINES across the world
(Google: trump eclipse news)

Also remember how the gays will be hanged in public squares...nothing happened. Not a single right was taken.

The current division in the US society is the result of so much hate being directed at him.
I believe that he did a good job.

I'm not a conspirationist, but is hard to deny the amount of time and the thousands of negative headlines.
Maybe because he was an obstacle to globalists? Who knows. True is that nobody can deny the unfair press
treatment.

For the people here happy with the censorship and the politically-correct stuff: you should be very worried right now.
Your liberties are taken away from you, not given. Free speech and debate are what made US great in the past. If you want to know how your future like, take a look at Europe. Totally bankrupt, governed by the socialism, no borders, free money for all (in exchange of nothing of course).
Trump earned every bit of that harrasssment, bad news and hate. Stop acting like he was just a poor victim of his on actions. He gave out fare more than he got, then claimed victim-hood.
 
For those comparing BLM protests over the summer to the violence on DC...

The vast majority of Black Lives Matter protests—more than 93%—have been peaceful, according to a new report published by a nonprofit that researches political violence and protests across the world.

The Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) analyzed more than 7,750 Black Lives Matter demonstrations in all 50 states and Washington D.C. that took place in the wake of George Floyd’s death between May 26 and August 22.

Their report states that more than 2,400 locations reported peaceful protests, while fewer than 220 reported “violent demonstrations.” The authors define violent demonstrations as including “acts targeting other individuals, property, businesses, other rioting groups or armed actors.” Their definition includes anything from “fighting back against police” to vandalism, property destruction looting, road-blocking using barricades, burning tires or other materials. In cities where protests did turn violent—these demonstrations are “largely confined to specific blocks,” the report says.
Yeah, I’m sure the sources of those reports aren’t biased...

also, the DC thing was over in hours. Where I live the summer riots lasted months and made one scared to leave the house for any reason.
 
Facebook, Google, Twitter, Apple, etc. are not obligated in any way to provide a free speech platform or to abide by the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution. The 1st Amendment only prevents the government from making a law to abridge freedom of speech. So if tech companies want to regulate what speech is allowed on their platform (fair or not), that's their business and ironically, if the government told them otherwise, that might well be a violation fo the 1st Amendment.

we’ll see, there’s precedent that private property becomes a de facto “public square”

 
Could you cite some examples? Trump is pro-gun; Biden wants to take them.
Trump is America First; Biden has stated he wants to remove that
Jobs, business, stocks exploded under Trump
How is Trump a Nazi? You are aware that the Nazi Party was the National Democratic Socialist party, right?
I believe you are misinformed. and not able to see beyond the propaganda.
 
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Free speech has been taken away from most social media platforms already, in case you’ve been missing it. I mean you can’t even question a vaccine or make a comment about Covid that you aren’t immediately “fact-checked,” or having your post covered or removed...
These people and their insistence on facts!
 
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The Tech industry is fighting tooth and nail not to be held responsible for users' content. Yet here we are with a tech industry giant all concerned about some users' content being found on another tech company's platform.
The interesting thing here is the consistency (or lack of) of the policies that the companies are applying.
 
Since you won't answer my question, the answer is 0. BLM was peacefully protesting and they can't control what criminals will do. I suspect more people were arrested for those riots than what will happen yesterday.

Is there a line where you would leave the Trump cult? Personally, if I supported someone who ordered for small innocent children to be separated from their parents, that would have ended things for me. Looks like that wasn't enough for you. And even an actual Insurrection on US soil isn't doing it either.

I guess their parents shouldn’t have brought them here illegally.

That being said, I’m sure it was terrifying for the children and it should have been handled differently. Trump should have learned and been better than his predecessor Barack and not done the same thing as him. But I’m sure you’ll over look that. Maybe you won’t though since I’m sure you saw the pictures on the magazines that were taken when Barack was President but the MSM said it was Trump. Instead of calling out the Chosen One for the bad things he also did to illegal immigrants you choose to yell “Orange Man Bad!” from the rooftops.
 
Yeah, I’m sure the sources of those reports aren’t biased...

also, the DC thing was over in hours. Where I live the summer riots lasted months and made one scared to leave the house for any reason.
Ah, yes. Don't agree with it, just call it biased or fake. That line of "reasoning" is why we had the DC riot - people who live in a fantasy world, where anything that doesn't match their political worldview is discarded.

Their research is online, with cited incidents. They look at entire world, including harsh assessments of Iran and other dictatorships.
 
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Can’t believe I read 9 pages of comments. I never heard of the app before and have no desire to look at it or anything else extremist.

I do think that banning the app is fruitless, though. The views don’t go away as these people are emboldened by rejection and find other places to congregate. History has proven that over and over again.
 
Could you cite some examples? Trump is pro-gun; Biden wants to take them.
Trump is America First; Biden has stated he wants to remove that
Jobs, business, stocks exploded under Trump
How is Trump a Nazi? You are aware that the Nazi Party was the National Democratic Socialist party, right?
Wow. You're literally spewing GOP talking points. But here you go:
  • Guns - preventing maniacs from owning firearms shouldn't be seen as "pro" or "anti" gun - it's just common sense
  • "America First" - do you know what nationalism means? Or have realized at this point that Trump views the governing as a zero sum game? "If they win, that means we're losing" isn't a sensical approach to operating the government
  • Jobs/Business/Stocks - Trump inherited a booming economy and went on to pass tax cuts when it wasn't needed. And decided to encourage Americans to disregard the pandemic, causing the US to basically stay in lockdown mode for months because wearing masks and staying indoors equals communism/socialism/China/etc. Those tax breaks sure could be useful now, huh?
  • You're aware that "Democratic", "Democrat", and "Socialist" can all have different meanings depending on the context, right? If you're suggesting that the Democrats (political party) in the US has greater Nazi tendencies, then you're not bothering to understand the difference or what Nazism actually means
 
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Free speech has been taken away from most social media platforms already, in case you’ve been missing it. I mean you can’t even question a vaccine or make a comment about Covid that you aren’t immediately “fact-checked,” or having your post covered or removed. It’s like we can’t question a thing or have a single thought in print. If you don‘t consider that a loss of freedom, we might not have read the same constitution.

I’m fairly sure that’s only the beginning with their glorious vaccine now being pushed on everyone, no matter the consequence.

I’m just not really interested in the slippery slope wherein the government tells me how to think and what to do.

Imagine being 'fact checked' as being a bad thing.

There is a difference between questioning or having a concern on a topic such as vaccines and propagating disinformation about a subject. Hence the 'fact checking'.

Freedom of speech does not mean there are no consequences for that speech. If you falsely and knowingly yell 'fire' in a theatre and there is a stampede and people die because of it you will be prosecuted and convicted of manslaughter. You cannot claim a free speech defence.

Free speech is strictly defined by the 1st amendment as the 'government' cannot impinge on your right of speech. The government can still prosecute you for the consequences of that speech especially if it leads to the violation of other laws. Even lying is not completely protected by the 1st amendment and that is why we have libel laws.
 
Even though I don’t care about what Trump does, I am convinced that Facebook, Twitter, reddit are run by leftist ballbags who will censor everyone who goes against their narrative.
Even centrist or neutral people are clubbed together with ultra right. Critique China, Radical Islam, Left Wing with valid references ..... Bam......banned
 
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Do you really think he meant physically fight? I mean he’s been saying he’s fighting for America his entire presidency - dontcha think maybe it was meant in that way? Sure there will be radicals that will always take it further, but ultimately people are responsible for their own actions.
You're being willfully blind:





You're suggesting the act of inciting violence is fine because "there will be radicals that will always take it further, but ultimately people are responsible for their own actions". Are you next going to tell the victims that it's their fault because they deserved it?
 
I guess I’ll bow out, I’ve tried to have a reasoned and inquisitive discussion but no one responds... 🤷‍♂️
 
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Antifa is a belief, not a political group. And it stands for "anti-fascist". I can't believe anyone is "pro-fascist".
Thanks for teaching me something I didn’t know. 🙄 I’m not saying they are a political group but they sure as heck are more than a belief.” You gotta love all those “anti-fascist” who will do anything to bully, destroy and intimidate you if you think differently than them. Sounds like they are pretty dang “pro-fascist.” A lot more than you realize.
But you’re probably just regurgitating something you heard on CNN or read on Facebook.
 
Free speech has been taken away from most social media platforms already, in case you’ve been missing it. I mean you can’t even question a vaccine or make a comment about Covid that you aren’t immediately “fact-checked,” or having your post covered or removed. It’s like we can’t question a thing or have a single thought in print. If you don‘t consider that a loss of freedom, we might not have read the same constitution.

I’m fairly sure that’s only the beginning with their glorious vaccine now being pushed on everyone, no matter the consequence.

I’m just not really interested in the slippery slope wherein the government tells me how to think and what to do.

That's not what free speech is. Free speech is the GOVERNMENT not being able to create laws to restrict it.
 
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Could you cite some examples? Trump is pro-gun; Biden wants to take them.
Trump is America First; Biden has stated he wants to remove that
Jobs, business, stocks exploded under Trump
How is Trump a Nazi? You are aware that the Nazi Party was the National Democratic Socialist party, right?

You've managed to be wrong on everything you've stated. Congratulations!
 
Thanks for teaching me something I didn’t know. 🙄 I’m not saying they are a political group but they sure as heck are more than a belief.” You gotta love all those “anti-fascist” who will do anything to bully, destroy and intimidate you if you think differently than them. Sounds like they are pretty dang “pro-fascist.” A lot more than you realize.
But you’re probably just regurgitating something you heard on CNN or read on Facebook.
It sure sounds like you didn't know. But you’re probably just regurgitating something you heard on Fox News or Breitbart.

See, I can do it too.
 
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