Ever heard about a thing called "principle"?
I may not be using Google Talk, but Apple's attitude did piss me off. Because next time they could adopt the same ****** attitude against an app I *DO* want to use.
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Apple to Allow Google Voice-Compatible Apps Back Into App Store?
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Ever heard about a thing called "principle"?
I may not be using Google Talk, but Apple's attitude did piss me off. Because next time they could adopt the same ****** attitude against an app I *DO* want to use.
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Now this is good news! Apple have been on a roll with the positive announcements this week.
Now this is good news! Apple have been on a roll with the positive announcements this week.
The primary advantage of those apps being delayed for a couple of months is AT&T was able to roll-out considerably more backhaul and combo 3G and LTE 4G to many sites. When voip over handsets begins to displace voice calls we can go to all data plans.
AT&T likes selling you voice plans better.
Maybe the eventual Verizon phone will be data only?
Rocketman
AT&T likes selling you voice plans better.
Maybe the eventual Verizon phone will be data only?
Rocketman
GV recently announced VOIP, I can call any landline now from my GMAIL thanks to GV and my GV number shows up when I call.
GV is actually pretty neat with the directions, I give this number to anyone that asks my number and it is easy to block and even to let ring 3 phones at the same time so you can pickup the one that is the most convenient.
For some people this might sound crazy until you see it working, I can just walk around and know I am available anywhere for my job, if I have my deskphone in reach I just pickup my deskphone.
I am glad this is being reviewed, and the free texting is just a bonus, too bad they stopped doing free international texting.
I hope that with this app I will be able to dial out and receive text with my GV number and I am all set. texting is pure data and costs almost nothing to provider yet they still charge you which is ridiculous.
Many people dont know the potential of GV yet and probably will never know but I dont care, I love it and i hope they can build further on it.
To those that use the app on jailbroken phones:
Does it work with the recently-debuted ability to make free calls to phones in the US and Canada? Had to make some calls to Canada recently and Gmail/Google Voice worked well, but it would have been nice to just do it on my iPhone (AT&T's rates to Canada are obscene).
Does it work with the recently-debuted ability to make free calls to phones in the US and Canada? Had to make some calls to Canada recently and Gmail/Google Voice worked well, but it would have been nice to just do it on my iPhone (AT&T's rates to Canada are obscene).
Boy this is getting really interesting. Apple is opening up! I am wondering if there is something bigger down the line that Apple is setting all of this up for.
That is the funniest thing I have read from MR in a while. Had they bothered the GOOGLE the recent info about the app instead of taking the developers word they would have found it has been at least 8 months since he has made any updates to it.
If you try to do anything more than make calls (check call or sms history) it just crashes. I hope Apple takes it back and forces the lazy developer to update it.
I think Swift was wondering when/if the built in Maps app would be updated with Google Nav. My guess is that it won't and the Maps app may be replaced by an Apple in house app, since they have been investing in that area.
That said, Google could submit an app to the store if they want.
I just think it's a case of AT+T exclusivity ending so Apple isn't as concerned over what AT+T wants. Apple is more concerned with competing with Android.
My dreams of a contract free wifi phone will soon be realized. With GV, skype and Facetime I can finally test the viability of calling over wifi and never need worry about data limits and roaming charges as public wifi becomes more and more ubiquitous.
GV Mobile worked fine as a dialer app on my iPod touch last year.
Currently, I am using the free version of Riverturn's VoiceCentral BlackSwan HTML5 app as a dialer app (as well as SMS) on my iPod touch. The limitations of Google Voice's fancy mobile site are Google's design decisions and irrelevant to the lack of a dialer on the iPod touch.
Not quite true. Google Voice essentially becomes a VoIP service when you register a Gizmo5 (acquired by Google) account with it. If you call via your computer's web browser on Gmail, it really is VoIP (the Google Chat browser plug-in is basically the VoIP app).
With a SIP app with backgrounding or push notifications, plus a Gizmo5 SIP account, you can actually use the iPod touch (or other iDevice) as a makeshift phone. The ability to make free calls to the United States while traveling aboard is quite helpful.
You might.
You might also be able to contact Apple for a credit, since you had purchased Kovac's app before.
When Apple pulled GV Mobile from the App Store, I called Apple Customer Service. They credited my iTunes Store account for the amount I paid to Kovacs thus if he releases the app and I have to pay for it again, I will not have double-paid.
You can already do all that now, and you can even do it over 3G, with no contract. Here's a hint, use an iPad sim.
cvdales said:
Yes Blackswan is an excellent alternative and works great with push and backgrounding.
Well that's the problem you cannot register new Gizmo accounts since Google bought them out. But your right about them being a VOIP. Until Google allows new Gizmo accounts or the equivalent through Google Voice, you will need to go with something like Skype.
We're finally entering a new day. Using my ipad sim in my unlocked iphone 4, Gizmo 5, and Blackswan, I get unlimited calling in North America, free of charge, and unlimited data for 30$ a month. You truly can't beat that price. The quality is excellent, and once I jailbreak to allow tethering into the picture, I can dump all other internet connections. Someone should press the FCC to get on ATT's back concerning tethering. Seems quite anti-competitive.
GV+ is one of the best apps I've purchased. I fix iPhones as a little side job, have a google voice number set up as a business number, if I miss a call, etc or want to dial a number this app rocks. question is, will I get a free app from the app store? or just keep the one I have now? I'm sure something will be worked out, hell, I'd even pay 2.99 again for it actually.
You are defending monopolistic behaviour right there. Take this story and exchange Apple with Microsoft - would you still think this whole thing was ok? My guess is that you guys would be eating MS up at this point were that the case...
Is someone else worried that Apple might not be the new Microsoft anymore?
Not really, I think Apple have just realised they have a body of legal advice that suggests that they were massively in breach of EU competition law and potentially US competition law as well.
They don't want to do this, but it's much better than the alternative likely remedy if they lose such a case, which is a massive fine and not being allowed to run the only iPhone app store any more (I'd think the EU would go for something like the Microsoft browser ballot - you're offered five app stores upon first setting up the phone and get to pick a default).
Compared to the loss of control they'd suffer from that, Apple are just trying to maintain as much as a monopoly as they can pragmatically by trying to reduce their most damning practices.
Phazer
Don't think its that complicated....its competition
Maybe the recent changes allowing GV and allowing 3rd party application development systems (read Adobe Flash Compiler) were due to fears of anti-competitive regulations. But recall that Apple still only has a small share of the smartphone market (ca. 20%), and a tiny share of the overall mobile phone market. It's hard to be anti-competitive from that position.
Apple does have an overwhelming share of the mobile music player market, and I do think that their past behavior could be considered anti-competitive there. But no one seems to be focusing on it.
The larger reason, IMO, is Android competition. I don't think that it is a coincidence that all this is happening after Android went from nowhere to blow by the iPhone (and iOS overall) in market share in less than a year. With no sign of changed momentum. See that Gartner just projected that Android will nearly reach Symbian in overall mobile phone market share in 2011, while Apple will remain flat in the high teens.
It's also no coincidence that Apple is allowing Adobe-compiled Flash apps on the iPhone right after Android provided native Flash support in v2.2. Or that GV is no longer the applications-interface monster it was a few months ago, now that Apple is trying to close the barn door after the horse has galloped out and is running away down the lane.
It's competition. Steve Jobs will be inflexibly principled...until it starts costing him in the cash register. There are many examples in the past both with Macs and mobile devices (I've listed them in earlier posts on other threads). Let's hope that these will allow Apple to be more competitive than they have in the past 6 months, because no one needs Google to become a new monopoly.
Maybe the recent changes allowing GV and allowing 3rd party application development systems (read Adobe Flash Compiler) were due to fears of anti-competitive regulations. But recall that Apple still only has a small share of the smartphone market (ca. 20%), and a tiny share of the overall mobile phone market. It's hard to be anti-competitive from that position.
Apple does have an overwhelming share of the mobile music player market, and I do think that their past behavior could be considered anti-competitive there. But no one seems to be focusing on it.
The larger reason, IMO, is Android competition. I don't think that it is a coincidence that all this is happening after Android went from nowhere to blow by the iPhone (and iOS overall) in market share in less than a year. With no sign of changed momentum. See that Gartner just projected that Android will nearly reach Symbian in overall mobile phone market share in 2011, while Apple will remain flat in the high teens.
It's also no coincidence that Apple is allowing Adobe-compiled Flash apps on the iPhone right after Android provided native Flash support in v2.2. Or that GV is no longer the applications-interface monster it was a few months ago, now that Apple is trying to close the barn door after the horse has galloped out and is running away down the lane.
It's competition. Steve Jobs will be inflexibly principled...until it starts costing him in the cash register. There are many examples in the past both with Macs and mobile devices (I've listed them in earlier posts on other threads). Let's hope that these will allow Apple to be more competitive than they have in the past 6 months, because no one needs Google to become a new monopoly.
ive never had it crash. not even once. your phone sucks, or you have idiotic crap installed like "video wallpaper"
Ignorant poster is ignorant. So you are telling me you can open GV on a "jailbroken" phone go to "history" and it doesn't crash?
And no, I have no video wallpaper on my phone but feel free to assume a few more things ya jerk!
