Like I said, certification is free.So it's free of charge so long as you consider your time to be worthless.
I don't read any of this to suggest it's one or the other. In other words, nothing in this suggests that a third-party repair shop won't be able to both have access to OEM parts, tools, manuals, etc. and also perform on-board repairs (such as replacing caps).Sounds no different than going to a regular authorised repair location, Louis for example won't be able to replace caps and what not on a board, they will still want one to replace the entire mainboard. It might sound like a good thing, that it allows more access to more folks, but it doesn't seem any different. Guess gotta wait to see how it pans out.
So... hold on.
iPhone must be out of warranty. If you have an XS/XR, that still is not the case. Meaning that battery still needs to be swapped at an Apple Authorized shop.
How about some movement on the computer side as well please?
Unless I'm reading that wrong?
COUNTERFEIT?! *heavy breathing*
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Ah boy, he's such a loser. Just so bitter. I used to subscribe to him because the stuff he was doing was genuinely interesting. There aren't that many channels who do component-level repairs on laptops (not just MacBooks but all OEMs). He'd talk through what he'd be doing and how he'd be doing it.
Yeah he'd have the odd dig at Apple but that's the fun of it. Now he just dedicates far too much time being a one-man crusade. He's got an enormous chip on his shoulder. It's a bit of a cringefest going through his videos to be honest.
Like I said, certification is free.
Don’t try to move the goalposts after you demand a source to back up my post, and I provide it.
Do you think Apple’s going to train these people for free? Ship parts out to them for free? They’re not a charity, and when it took this long for them to do this under immense pressure, there’s no way they haven’t found a way to make serious money on it.Why - are you just making this up? Have some facts to share? or is your statement part of a conspiracy theory?
I on the other hand see no malice in this policy, apple has always seemed to want quality parts installed correctly by quality technicians.
what what? Every time I need service, I make an appointment and get one same day (and those were not new devices, one was a 5 yo MBP to test the battery - it was still good, and another was to replace a battery on a iPhone 5s (which btw, a no-name repair shop offered to doff $7 less than Apple).
so no idea what you are saying.
hasn't the broader issue always been, bad repair shop replacing with bad parts and/or incorrectly, then the customer asking Apple to fix it, and under warranty no less? Or as has occurred many times, may places, unscrupulous actors removing parts from electronics, replacing them with crap and then taking the altered devices in for repair?
it absolutely holds up, these 3rd party repairs can fix the logic board by replacing a node or module for 50 bucks vs being in the apple program and replacing the logic board in a iphone for 200 bucks. if you can't stop them, at least regulate them.
So... hold on.
iPhone must be out of warranty. If you have an XS/XR, that still is not the case. Meaning that battery still needs to be swapped at an Apple Authorized shop.
How about some movement on the computer side as well please?
Unless I'm reading that wrong?
You say they’re genuine Apple components, but if they’re purchased from some random company, how do you know that’s true? Apple is the only source for Apple replacement parts, aren’t they?Correct which is why the first-party batteries and components he does import get stripped of the logo. My company (we are an Apple contractor that cannot source certain parts directly from Apple) even does this and they are in fact genuine Apple components however they are deemed counterfeit by word of policy (applies to non-imported locally sourced components) and law hence my statement that it doesn't
That was exactly the case for the batteries that were seized.
They were, in fact, counterfeit. Third party Chinese batteries, for a 6 or 7 year old Mac, which had a counterfeit logo and markings.
You don't find this odd? So the batteries came from Apple devices. Why? What was wrong with these devices that they had to be scrapped for their spare parts? Surely, according to Rossman, almost anything can be fixed. So why weren't these laptops fixed as opposed to being scrapped for parts? Further they came from China. I find it quite amazing that whoever had these devices in China didn't simply attempt to repair them. And if they couldn't repair them, then they scrap them and keep all the parts for themselves. Seems highly suspicious to me that they'd bother to ship spare parts halfway around the world (and have to deal with US Customs) instead of just finding a local buyer/repair shop to sell them too. Have you been to China/Asia? There are repair shops on almost every street corner. Even fairs/night markets are littered with repair shops. The whole thing seems very strange.
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Yeah, let's forget about the $29 battery repair program. Or the fact iOS 12 and 13 actually make older devices faster and increase their useful lifespan by another year.
You don't find this odd? So the batteries came from Apple devices. Why? What was wrong with these devices that they had to be scrapped for their spare parts? Surely, according to Rossman, almost anything can be fixed. So why weren't these laptops fixed as opposed to being scrapped for parts? Further they came from China. I find it quite amazing that whoever had these devices in China didn't simply attempt to repair them. And if they couldn't repair them, then they scrap them and keep all the parts for themselves. Seems highly suspicious to me that they'd bother to ship spare parts halfway around the world (and have to deal with US Customs) instead of just finding a local buyer/repair shop to sell them too. Have you been to China/Asia? There are repair shops on almost every street corner. Even fairs/night markets are littered with repair shops. The whole thing seems very strange.
You say they’re genuine Apple components, but if they’re purchased from some random company, how do you know that’s true? Apple is the only source for Apple replacement parts, aren’t they?
Do you think Apple’s going to train these people for free? Ship parts out to them for free? They’re not a charity, and when it took this long for them to do this under immense pressure, there’s no way they haven’t found a way to make serious money on it.
I fully agree that it’s likely “free” to get the certification, just like the announcement says, but it’s also likely the case that only larger businesses or businesses with other operations than Apple device repair will actually be able to afford to use it. That’s how it already is with many Apple Authorized Resellers — if you don’t have some other business, you don’t have a snowball’s chance of staying open more than a year because of the costs that Apple arbitrarily introduces. Many AARs hold other businesses (like also being an Apple Authorized Service Provider, which is also too expensive except for large businesses) for the sole purpose of offsetting the money they lose under their AAR operations.
Why expect Apple to act any differently here?
wrong. its not free and no where does it say its free. if you check along the links you'll find where to pay.maybe read the article before rushing to comment.Wrong. The program started in March 2018 and has just been expanded. What “strong legal action” was Apple facing?
You’re going to have to look harder for something to complain about.
PS and maybe read the article before rushing to comment—the certification is free.
1) The Apple page you linked to is not relevant, as it was last updated April 15th, and so can’t reflect requirements for this program.I linked to an official Apple page saying there is a charge for the exam. You linked to an appleinsider.com article with an unsupported claim that it's free. The cost of a worker's time is just a bonus.
hes on and off about it, now hes back on it.Oh , i recall him in a video saying something about not bothering to fix iphones and he stuck with laptops
You’re wrong. Certification is free.wrong. its not free and no where does it say its free. if you check along the links you'll find where to pay.maybe read the article before rushing to comment.![]()