"Suffering" and "losing"...
Apple's smartphone and Services business is so far from suffering and losing, it beggars belief.
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Apple to Allow iPad Users in EU to Download Apps From Third-Party App Stores From September 16
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Apple's smartphone and Services business is so far from suffering and losing, it beggars belief.
This means absolutely nothing to me if Apple still needs to approve the app and they will never approve YouTube vanced, or any other type of “enhanced apps”.
“OMG WE HAVE FORTNITE ON IPADS”. Yeah, sure buddy, grow up.
“OMG WE HAVE FORTNITE ON IPADS”. Yeah, sure buddy, grow up.
Your opinion. And the dma is making up rules as they are going along.
No it doesn’t. It looks at revenue and influence not market share.
It not antitrust regulation given apples market share. It’s legislation designed to take apples profits and cater to the big boys.
How else do governing bodies rule without ‘making up’ rules? Rules are fluid, especially when dealing with companies fighting against them.
Not an opinion - it's an objective fact that Apple has been marketing them as the same.
And also, that the differences between the two are minuscule.
Just as different versions of iOS (iOS 17 and iOS 18) are versions of the same OS, or different versions of Windows.
Market share measured in share of revenue.
Your claim of looking at "not market share" is objectively wrong.
Given iOS is effectively in a duopoly with Android - and both companies have not only been colluding in their application software policies, but one has also paid the other billions of dollar each year for default settings on the systems (to ensure Google's monopoly on web search), it of course als acts as antitrust legislation.
if that is a priority there are vendors who let you do this today by voting with your $$$. Companies who restrict you in ways you dislike don’t give them your business.
There are no competitive alternatives for smartwatches for iOS users - since Apple has been locking them out from interfacing with iOS devices in ways the Apple watch can.
It’s a subjective fact they are the same not objective. I see why you think they are the same because it supports your position.
In your opinion.
And windows server is the same as windows desktop. Right?
Maketshare is looked at in terms of installed base. Your claim is objectively wrong.
iOS is not a duopoly. Apple is not one of two smartphone manufacturers. Because you don’t like googles actions is neither here nor there.
Not on iOS there aren’t. And I use iOS and MacOS predominantly. Would be nice to not be forced buying an Apple Watch with its single ‘look’ out of the multitude of nicer looking smartwatches, but it still be allowed to be ‘smart’ with iOS.
As I said there are alternatives to apple, vote with your $$$.
So buy into hardware and software that meets your criteria.
There is a lack of operating system alternatives to iOS.
Namely... there is but one relevant alternative.
There is a preponderance of competition to apple. Walk into any cell phone carrier store.
...and their operating systems are all the same, and available apps all depend on the same store.
It's a duopoly on cell phone OS and software.
And that's what the DMA addresses and regulates.
Not choice of hardware device.
And there is plenty of competition even if apple has a minor market share in the EU. As I said the competition chose to build their devices in a certain way, it’s not apples issue.
When I got my first iPhone there was no watches available. When I got my first Mac there were no iPhones available. It’s not as easy as you make out, it’s also not a particularly valid comment to make. It’s a handy though pointless rebuttal is all.
Now there is a watch and out of all of the many choices available, only one will work with my phone. And funnily enough it’s made by the phone vendor. That’s not competition. It’s a racket.
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Apple is vertically integrated and closed. It’s not a surprise to anyone over the last 17 years.
I have a Fitbit that works well enough with my iPhone so I’m not sure what the integration issue is with other 3rd party watches.
Of course not - they don't have a choice. They're all using the only non-iOS operating system that's viable in the market.
Let the competition design and build their operating system. Again it’s not apples issue.
1. Ok I misunderstood, I thought you meant official Github apps, but you're talking about third party open source tools where the repo is on GitHub (which was puzzling since I knew GitHub released their apps on iOS App Store).
2. I don't know of any tool I need that isn't on the App Store but is available on Android via side load. I have, use, and develop for both platforms. I've side loaded a network traffic monitor on Android before but I ended up uninstalling it as it wasn't necessary (actually I reinstalled Android but didn't bother going through the steps again of reinstalling the tool)
So I don't know what you mean "Until it’s available and working as it should". It's already available and working on Android and I still don't use it. There's nothing to suggest "most people" on Android is side loading too. I don't know what makes you think most people who think like me would suddenly start side loading if Apple allowed it in USA.
"To the ones that don’t want or need that, nothing needs to change."
Wrong. until the apps I currently use leave the App Store. macOS has already seen that happen. bought plenty of apps on macOS App Store and they left to self distribution.
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Some weird takes on here. So, someone who wants to release a fully functioning good quality smart watch that works as well as an apple watch on ios can't, and instead must build an entire phone OS to facilitate it? Surely even a die hard must realise that this is crazy talk.
Designing and building that is probably the lesser issue.
They can't create the ecosystem of third-party apps out of nowhere that is necessary to have a viable product.
Well, it kind of is, since the DMA now imposes some obligations and market conduct restrictions on Apple.
Then again, it's not really their "issue", as the duopoly with Google has let Apple made billions upon billions of $$$.
Again, you obviously disagree, but competition law looks at the state of the market and regulates from there.
It doesn't really matter who or what exactly is responsible ("guilty") for someone having a dominant market position.
That’s a competition issue not an incumbent problem. The incumbent , in most places, aren’t required to give away their business.
We’ll see how long it lasts as new functionality gets deployed everywhere except the EU. Put the onus on
The competition to develop their own operating system. Measure maker share by units and not profit.
And the issue is? That even though google owns 96% of the search market people are ignorant in the ways of choosing a default search engine?
I do disagree as the the laws were crafted imo specifically for apple. As the iPadOS ruling shows this is no better than a kangaroo court.
Well it does and the conditions matter.