I agree, some very weird takes here. Why can’t someone release a fully functioning smartwatch on iOS? Do you have an example that failed because of the closed ecosystem vs a lousy implementation?
Exactly. And that's what competition laws deal with.
Hardly anyone wants that or can do that.
The law covers shopping and social networking sites/services that Apple doesn't even operate.
As I said (more than once), iPadOS is just a different brand name for the name iOS - on bigger screens.
Does Apple allow third-party devices to interface with the iPhones' contacts and calendar?
Exactly. The law is written incorrectly and should deal with the competition of companies other than apple.
Citations? Because the above is subjective.
Then deal with the competition that is not apple.
Not apples issue as you said.
Mostly covers apple.
In your opinion, seems a moving target.
Incorrect. Windows server is not windows desktop.
Why should it? The above is a red herring question.
Same answer as above.
Same.
Same.
Same.
Same. Again, buy the hardware that works for you.
You’ve said it more than once but it doesn’t make it true. It’s also not what the E.U. said when it applied the DMA to iPadOS. You’d think if it was that easy they would have just said that.
Denying it doesn't make the opposite true. They used to be one and the same - and the difference seems to be an a mere branding decisions, with only negligible technical differences between the two.
...which contradicts claims that the law was tailored to take away profits from Apple.
...based on what the law provided for.
Apple artificially segmented their product (OS) a few years prior.
It doesn't.
Of course it it is!
There is a lack of it in, for instance, operating systems, as we discussed already.
It's core functionality that I believe users expect in a smartwatch that can compete with the Apple watch.
I could barely see an iPhone in three phone stores I walked into on Saturday hoping to see the 16 range.
Yes - there‘s competition in the smartphone hardware device market. That‘s why it remains unregulated.
So what operating systems did the phones run that you saw? How many did you count?
You do what everyone on the planet has to do. You decide what is most important to you, and then you compromise.
Sounds like a lack of choice in the market to me.
your three year old probably isnt as self-entitled as some people
The hardware has been regulated. And along with that is the software. With an iPhone there is no differentiation.
Each android o/s is forked just as it iOS and iPadOS are forked.
Linux.
Linux.
With a purchase of a product from a for profit company specializing in consumer discretionary products there is always some compromise.
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They are different. Just because you and the EU want them to be the same so they can be mined for supposed DMA violations doesn't make it so. One os is designed specifically for tablets while the other is designed for phones.
…and yet, all of these Android versions are all together regulated as one designated core platform service. As it should be.
Please name a readily available „Linux“ smartphone with reasonable app ecosystem (that includes public transit apps, banking apps etc.) available for consumers to choose - that does not come with Google Play services included.
They are not. They are designed together, offering slightly different user interfaces for phones and tablets - just as different Android versions are (yet they‘re still covered by the DMA as one).
And when there‘s very little choice and the product an important platform for other businesses (which the operating systems are), they‘re now regulated in the EU. As it should be, tomprevent these platform operators from abusing their dominant position.
If you don‘t like it, don‘t use it.
Smartphones are not sold at a loss (usually). Apple smartphones are so far away from being sold at a loss and not recouping their costs, it‘s nothing like the gaming console business.
There‘s no guaranteed profit to have in competitive business (though they may have a target).
👉 And that is exactly the reason why they are - and should be - regulated with competition law.
And that is exactly the reason why they are - and should be - regulated with competition law.
Being able to continually make their desired profits anyway is indicative of a monopoly, oligopoly or otherwise dominant market position with lack of competition.
I have one. A solid choice but no a patch on an iPhone or ios for beauty and ease of use. Also obviously not working very well with apples other devices (thanks again, apple).
I wonder if you would have the same attitude if those consoles only worked with their own 1st party controllers and the others worked, but you couldn't configure the buttons properly.
Speaking for myself, I would have absolutely no issue if my PS5 only worked with Sony-manufactured controllers. I also have no issue with the fact that I am required to buy all of my games through the Sony digital store. I knew that would be the case going in when I bought it. You don’t see me screaming to my government to change it after the fact.
Perhaps you dont know, despite your apparent confidence on this, but there are definitely no viable Linux mobile OS that is remotely able to compete with either iOS or Android. Not on apps, quality, security nor anything else. Certainly not available on the shelves of the hypothetical store this tangent subject arose from either.
Can buy ps5 games in any gaming store. Can order one from Amazon. So.. ? Alternative facts? I hear thats a thing these days.
And that is exactly the reason why they are - and should be - regulated with competition law.