Apple to Announce Redesigned 14-Inch and 16-Inch MacBook Pro at WWDC, Says Wedbush Analyst

[cmaier]

Yeah, I would rather have 4 of the same ports I KNOW I'll use than only two, plus HDMI and SD that I already know I won't use. I'll buy the dongle if I need it.

I don't understand people's hatred for the adapters/dongles. You attach them to the end of the peripheral device once and never touch them again. They effectively become a small extension cord. Are they ugly? Sure. But I really don't care - I didn't buy my Mac to enter beauty contests, I bought it to get work done and watch horribly overrated television shows!

When i take my MBP on the road, and am in a client’s conference room, or a hotel, or a court room, or someone hands me a thumb drive, what good does it do that I replaced cables or hooked up dongles at home?

What ends up happening is I travel with a pouch full of dongles, because whatever I do need to connect to, it *never* has a usb-c plug on the end of it.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

I don't understand people's hatred for the adapters/dongles. You attach them to the end of the peripheral device once and never touch them again. They effectively become a small extension cord. Are they ugly? Sure. But I really don't care - I didn't buy my Mac to enter beauty contests, I bought it to get work done and watch horribly overrated television shows!

I realized early on that the only case where that might be troublesome is with USB-A flash drives. Bought one USB-A to USB-C adapter (trivially cheap) which increased the number of things I carry with me by one. Am I prepared if someone offers me a SCSI drive? No.

I will have to deal with those consequences when they arise.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Care to explain why? It’s a pretty recent camera and has an sd slot, the poster I was answering stated all modern cameras have ditched sd. They didn’t.

Also, I didn’t say if it’s good or bad.

It overheats, it’s designed for 8K capture, but damned if I would trust an SD Card for critical
work. The CF Express is designed to be the primary with the SD Card as the secondary and I think Canon threw it in there as an afterthought.

 

[naughtybehavior86]

all i know is mini-LED = not a good road to go down based off XDR pro blooming and new iPad XDR blooming.

 

[Mr. TBTSmith]

How would you explain the Magsafe charger in the new iMac?

It isn’t a charger. There’s no battery in the iMac. They needed a new connector to carry power to the iMac and data to the power brick for Ethernet. So, because they’re Apple, they made their own and it isn’t awkward to plug in.

 

[Manzanito]

It overheats, it’s designed for 8K capture, but damned if I would trust an SD Card for critical
work. The CF Express is designed to be the primary with the SD Card as the secondary and I think Canon threw it in there as an afterthought.

Has been doing that for a long time, then the 5D mark III and mark IV also had an SD card slot.

Not adequate to recording 8k, maybe. Perfectly fine for stills.

Don’t like that particular camera? It’s ok it was only an example, sony and nikon also sell professional cameras with sd card as a recording media. In fact it’s harder to find pro photography cameras with no sd slot than the opposite. In canon, only the flagship 1DX.

Has apple done their homework if they decide to backtrack and add the sd slot? You bet. Maybe the rumour has no merit and the sd slot is gone for good, after all everyone who needs one has more than likely bought a card reader at this point. Either way I don’t really care.

 

[kp98077]

does this mean my M1 13 MBP will go way down in value :/

 

[Bea220]

Any idea how much these are likely to cost?

Too much. Is my guess... but worth it, I'm sure.

 

[JippaLippa]

Judging from some comments here I’m glad most will choose 16” over 14”. That means I don’t have to worry much about longer waiting period to get my 14”.

I just want an M2 machine, as I really need more ram and gpu power; I don't care that much about the form factor, as I'd mostly use it with external displays, but I'm interested in a portable machine to be able to travel a bit (after being vaccinated).

I'm aiming at the 16", but if it ends up costing quite a lot more than the 14", I'd rather get that one with perhaps more ram or storage.
We'll see.

Perhaps I will end up getting an M2 redesigned mac mini.

 

[dmelgar]

Not saying that no one is still using SD, but for me it would be a wasted port and dust collector that meanwhile most Mac users will already have as an adapter.

I'll say it. No one is still using SD, or at least they don't need to. Transfer via wireless or USB.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Has been doing that for a long time, then the 5D mark III and mark IV also had an SD card slot.

Not adequate to recording 8k, maybe. Perfectly fine for stills.

Don’t like that particular camera? It’s ok it was only an example, sony and nikon also sell professional cameras with sd card as a recording media. In fact it’s harder to find pro photography cameras with no sd slot than the opposite. In canon, only the flagship 1DX.

Has apple done their homework if they decide to backtrack and add the sd slot? You bet. Maybe the rumour has no merit and the sd slot is gone for good, after all everyone who needs one has more than likely bought a card reader at this point. Either way I don’t really care.

I apologize…I’m feeling rather salty today and I replied with unnecessary levels of rudeness.

Now I’m off to dunk on this idiot who keeps thinking he’s got the market cornered on why we all are getting screwed over by Apple.

 

[macminv]

Apple would want $999 for an Apple display. The LG ones weren't that expensive and I'd guess they only had limited sales. A good 4K monitor isn't very expensive now, there's no 30% profit margin for Apple in making monitors.

also, nobody wants a monitor that's EXCLUSIVELY tied to Thunderbolt ports. The people buying $600 monitors want extra DisplayPort and HDMI to connect their other stuff too. That's why the LG-Apple partnership didn't work.

I'd pay that, to be honest. I'm still using a pre-Thunderbolt 24" Apple Cinema Display and it's awesome. If it ever dies or stops being compatible (currently using a Satechi adapter to connect to my 2018 Air) I will cry a lot. It just looks so so crisp.

 

[Eorlas]

The 16" Intel MBP already comes with 16GB base. Going back to 8GB would be a regression.

getting 16gb in any computer these days is not a tall order, yet apple is defaulting to 8gb in all their recent releases and charging $200 for an additional 8gb, when 32gb of quality ddr4 can be had for less.

 

[HowardEv]

Honestly, what apple really needs to announce is a display for the mainstream. It’s crazy we hook our beautiful Mac laptops up to crappy plastic dells or Samsung. Amd the lg partnership was a bust.

(that, and a proper OS for the iPad.)

Yes, Apple needs to offer a whole line of displays, so we can choose the size we want, and how much battery we want. The smaller portable ones 14" up to 20" could be Thunderbolt powered off the computer, and the bigger ones could plug in to wall and power the computer through the thunderbolt.

And obviously, the computer we shouldn't have to be a throttled, loud, heavy expensive delicate MacBook Pro, but the fastest M2 in a new Mini that is usb-c powered and has a battery like a MacBook Pro, but is optimized for performance like a Mac Pro.

 

[maximus96]

Hope it can natively support 2 external displays without needing a DisplayLink adapter

 

[Kin Yalbets]

I am really hoping so.

Removing MagSafe in the first place was a pretty dumb move, imo.

All the good reasons why it was dumb can be explained in this quick clip.... By Apple:

Magsafe was a joke. The MagSafe cable frayed constantly. I had to buy 3 charger bricks for my 2012 Macbook. I don't miss it in the least. Also, the need to charge will be greatly reduced with the Mx chips. Please Apple, don't re-introduce the awful MagSafe again.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Yes, Apple needs to offer a whole line of displays, so we can choose the size we want, and how much battery we want. The smaller portable ones 14" up to 20" could be Thunderbolt powered off the computer, and the bigger ones could plug in to wall and power the computer through the thunderbolt.

And obviously, the computer we shouldn't have to be a throttled, loud, heavy expensive delicate MacBook Pro, but the fastest M2 in a new Mini that is usb-c powered and has a battery like a MacBook Pro, but is optimized for performance like a Mac Pro.

Do you just repeat the same ridiculousness of a battery-powered Mac mini because of a bad home life and you’re looking for attention or do you honestly believe what you’re saying will actually come true?
If it’s the former, we’ll, good job. Mission accomplished. If it’s the latter, then you might want to reorient your reality. It’s not happening.

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

i wouldn’t be surprised To see an imac pro announced.

Agree...30" Display, Space grey, please!

 

[Phoenix1000]

You get “the whole power of the machine” when on battery with Apple Silicon.

Yeah, I've heard this. So I'm really excited to see the new MBP on Apple Silicon next week.

 

[Matthew.H]

Magsafe was a joke. The MagSafe cable frayed constantly. I had to buy 3 charger bricks for my 2012 Macbook. I don't miss it in the least. Also, the need to charge will be greatly reduced with the Mx chips. Please Apple, don't re-introduce the awful MagSafe again.

I've had no issue with the original charger on my 2014 MBPr but if Apple does add magsafe back hopefully they stay with the current chargers where the cable is separate from the brick. At least then you can just replace the cable if it gets damaged.

 

[HowardEv]

Updated MBP is one. What are the other surprises?

Maybe a portable Mac mini and new displays?

 

[dustSafa]

Magsafe was a joke. The MagSafe cable frayed constantly. I had to buy 3 charger bricks for my 2012 Macbook. I don't miss it in the least. Also, the need to charge will be greatly reduced with the Mx chips. Please Apple, don't re-introduce the awful MagSafe again.

It might come with a braided cable this time though.

 

[Robospungo]

Could you please define “dead port” and “inferior?” This may help your argument. This is a serious question. I’m curious to see if you are thinking of something that I’m not seeing.

If you can’t, I’ll jump ahead. I assume you’ll quote the USB-C/thunder’s speed and adaptability via a bag of dongles. After all, what else can be said about the “advantages” of USB-C over USB-A besides speed and adaptability.

USB-A is hardly dead, considering the $$$ of peripherals in use at my home and work, and those homes and work areas of many others, which are not going away anytime soon.

Would you propose closing all gas stations immediately to incentivize automakers to stop churning out internal combustion engines?

Continuing the automobile analogy, consider how car quality is sooooo much better now than 20+ years ago that longevity of pre-owned cars is hard to overlook. It’s much easier to live with a 10-year old car now than it was in, say, 2000 or earlier. Quality and the provided function of a car from 2010 isn’t too far away from that of cars in showrooms today so it’s very short-sighted to claim the best option is to default to a new car every 2-5 years. Same for USB-A. It’s a much better port than the serial/parallel port days and most USB-A based hardware out there provides more than enough speed/power for a majority of users. Printers, keyboards, audio interfaces….even external storage drives for those for whom speed is not a concern. Many of those devices in today’s homes & offices aren’t going to fail-out and require replacing anytime soon.

There’s a point of diminishing returns when it comes to, say, an all USB-C/thunderbolt port MacBook.

If the rumors prove to be true, then Apple is coming back to Jesus and sees this, thankfully.

There’s not a single thing that USB-A does better than USB-C. It is simply a superior port in every way.

Your argument boils down to a desire to hold back the advancement of technology because you don’t want to buy a $4 adapter for your USB mouse.

The quicker PC manufacturers dump crappy USB-A ports, the quicker we’ll have ubiquitous USB-C peripherals.

 

[HowardEv]

I just want an M2 machine, as I really need more ram and gpu power; I don't care that much about the form factor, as I'd mostly use it with external displays, but I'm interested in a portable machine to be able to travel a bit (after being vaccinated).

I'm aiming at the 16", but if it ends up costing quite a lot more than the 14", I'd rather get that one with perhaps more ram or storage.
We'll see.

Perhaps I will end up getting an M2 redesigned mac mini.

Another buyer for Mac mini that is portable, so we don't have to compromise.

 

[DaveP]

That isn't really both on the Sony. Sony use CF Express A while the industry use CF Express B. Canon and Nikon sell a lot more cameras than Sony, heck Canon can compare just one model to the entire Sony lineup. CF Express B in the standard used in pro cameras (replacing XQD, CF, and CFast) and a pro laptop if it has any slot it should be using the PCIe lanes on CF Express B.

Your marketshare information has not been true for a number of years. In fact, Sony surpassed Nikon in market share in 2019.