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Honestly, what apple really needs to announce is a display for the mainstream. It’s crazy we hook our beautiful Mac laptops up to crappy plastic dells or Samsung. Amd the lg partnership was a bust.

(that, and a proper OS for the iPad.)
Apple would want $999 for an Apple display. The LG ones weren't that expensive and I'd guess they only had limited sales. A good 4K monitor isn't very expensive now, there's no 30% profit margin for Apple in making monitors.

also, nobody wants a monitor that's EXCLUSIVELY tied to Thunderbolt ports. The people buying $600 monitors want extra DisplayPort and HDMI to connect their other stuff too. That's why the LG-Apple partnership didn't work.
 
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Why go backwards with HDMI/SD Card and MagSafe. Add more thunderbolt/USB-C ports please. We already ripped this band-aid off why put it back on? I bought a USB-C dock that has these ports, and my power adapters are all USB-C.

Wish Apple would dump lightening already too, make it all USB-C and call it a day.

USB-C charging is awesome for anyone who only uses the laptop on a desk, preferably with a monitor that simultaneously charges the computer. For the rest of us, it means quickly deteriorating and breaking cables, given that a single mistake can easily break the fragile USB-C connector. Or even worse, it can mean a broken computer if that mistake happens to pull the laptop to the floor.
 
USB-C charging is awesome for anyone who only uses the laptop on a desk, preferably with a monitor that simultaneously charges the computer. For the rest of us, it means quickly deteriorating and breaking cables, given that a single mistake can easily break the fragile USB-C connector. Or even worse, it can mean a broken computer if that mistake happens to pull the laptop to the floor.
I hear you but when using my MBP on the coach or somewhere like that it has plenty of battery life to not need a cable. Unless you are telling me you work like that for 10-12 hours, and that is without the M1/2 CPU. I hear you but MagSafe seems like a tech from yesterday not a forward motion.
 
I don't understand people's hatred for the adapters/dongles. You attach them to the end of the peripheral device once and never touch them again. They effectively become a small extension cord. Are they ugly? Sure.
This goes against what Apple design is known for.

And who in their right mind leaves their adapters/dongles in their laptops while carrying it around?
 
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I hear you but when using my MBP on the coach or somewhere like that it has plenty of battery life to not need a cable. Unless you are telling me you work like that for 10-12 hours, and that is without the M1/2 CPU. I hear you but MagSafe seems like a tech from yesterday not a forward motion.

That's a good point, I guess it depends also on how quickly the battery capacity deteriorates in M1 macs. In my 2020 Intel MBP it's far from ideal and I've been trying to keep the number of charging cycles low to maintain the resale value, which will come handy now that the 14" macs will be released.
 
So a bunch of ports I don’t need...

How many others feel the time is right for a harder line/distinction between the MBA and MBP?

The problem is what does “Pro” mean? Is it being the most powerful/fastest (better processor and all USB-C), is it being the thinnest for ease of carrying throughout the day from meeting hell to meeting hell, is it having the kitchen sink of ports and touchbar and function keys, is it having the longest battery life…?

Whether it’s an MBA, MBP, or MacBook, clearly there’s no making everyone happy when it comes to ports, touchbars, screen size, screen resolution, keyboard quality/type, battery/SSD replaceability, where “having a Pro level of functionality” means too many different things to people.
 
No Touch Bar ... I still have my money on full touch screen on the Pros
 
Yeah, I would rather have 4 of the same ports I KNOW I'll use than only two, plus HDMI and SD that I already know I won't use. I'll buy the dongle if I need it.

I don't understand people's hatred for the adapters/dongles. You attach them to the end of the peripheral device once and never touch them again. They effectively become a small extension cord. Are they ugly? Sure. But I really don't care - I didn't buy my Mac to enter beauty contests, I bought it to get work done and watch horribly overrated television shows! ;)

Will you kindly buy me the assortment of dongles I need to keep at home at my desk, in my music room, at my work office, at my work meeting rooms? And follow me around when I go to other tbd locations that need a dongle?
 
My take...

  1. Many people use their MacBooks at a desk all day with the increase in WFH. We need continuous power. MagSafe is wonderful and I'm totally here for it. I'm sure it will still be able to take a charge using USB-C in a pinch.
  2. If I have to choose, give me more USB-C slots vs SD/HDMI. If I have to choose one... give me the SD for ease of extra storage. Pro-level camera/video storage is ever changing, and CF Express will demand an adapter regardless. At least the HDMI adaptor wouldn't really be something that would extend dongle-hell when truly portable.
  3. Petition for Logitech to make a USB-C Unifying receiver. I love that stupid thing, but it's the only USB-A device I have plugged directly into my laptop that really screws up transport if I needed to use an A-C adapter. Bluetooth for mouse/keyboard isn't my jam. MX Master- master race rise up.
All will be answered soon, except 3. Buying generational upgrade macs early on has been a great value proposition for me, as my late-2013 retina MBP has been a freaking trooper for almost 8 years. Also, I'm getting the upgraded RAM next time for sure.
 
Will you kindly buy me the assortment of dongles I need to keep at home at my desk, in my music room, at my work office, at my work meeting rooms? And follow me around when I go to other tbd locations that need a dongle?

Also, if you ever need to hook up your computer with a video projector / monitor (for example in a conference), the dongle will greatly increase the chances that it just doesn't work, or at least not without a hard boot and a NVRAM/PRAM reset.
 
That's a good point, I guess it depends also on how quickly the battery capacity deteriorates in M1 macs. In my 2020 Intel MBP it's far from ideal and I've been trying to keep the number of charging cycles low to maintain the resale value, which will come handy now that the 14" macs will be released.
There’s one function about MagSafe that seems to be chronically overlooked. I love being able to connect it to my laptop via one hand. No holding down the MacBook and then pushing in the cable. It comes on so handy when (often) balancing something else in your other arm/hand and is a subtle functionality I’d miss terribly but think few even recognize because it’s one of those surprise and delight things “that just works.” Plugging virtually anything into the back of my Mac mini is usually a five to ten second exercise in frustration, having to resort to pulling out my mini to see the back half the time.
 
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For the rest of us, it means quickly deteriorating and breaking cables
Which are quickly replaced by another standards compliant cable. And, really, it’s not like MagSafe cables were known for their stellar durability anyway, so that’s a wash at best and still better off for USB-C as a standard non-Apple cable will almost always be cheaper than anything Apple proprietary.
 
Honestly, what apple really needs to announce is a display for the mainstream. It’s crazy we hook our beautiful Mac laptops up to crappy plastic dells or Samsung. Amd the lg partnership was a bust.

(that, and a proper OS for the iPad.)
Naw. I spent $1,000 on an Apple Display a few years ago. Worst investment of my life. Worked good for like 10 months and then screen would randomly stay in sleep mode. Never fixed. Google searches revealed it to be a known problem.
 
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Which are quickly replaced by another standards compliant cable. And, really, it’s not like MagSafe cables were known for their stellar durability anyway, so that’s a wash at best and still better off for USB-C as a standard non-Apple cable will almost always be cheaper than anything Apple proprietary.
I need proprietary MagSafe, like I need a USB 1.1 port on my MBP. You can still pull a MBP off a desk if the yank happens fast enough and at an oblique angle, ask me how I know. All these people pining for yesteryear…gahhh! Bulging batteries, firmware issues, GT650M issues, delaminated screens, random shutdowns…the 2012-2015 MBPs were not some mythical age, they crapped out and sometimes with alarming frequency.
 
I am really hoping so.

Removing MagSafe in the first place was a pretty dumb move, imo.

All the good reasons why it was dumb can be explained in this quick clip.... By Apple:

Ahh…back in the day when Apple proritized function ahead of form….before the obsession with aesthetic uniformity of appearance first and foremost, functional loss be damned…
 
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Thanks, and power-supply into a MacBook I suppose. My point is/was: How much do the advantages of all-USB-C overcome the negative trade-offs, where USB-A hardware is very, very pervasive still and provides exactly enough (or more than enough) function for many, many users, and where no benefit would be seen immediately and even in 5 years for a large number of users (and in fact, negative trade-offs would be felt by many, for having to buy, manage/carry, and replace dongles for the next half dozen years until the possible future where USB-A-connected hardware is about as commonplace as serial/parallel port devices).
Is USB-A hardware very pervasive? I mean, there’s USB-A sticks, but what other hardware requires USB-A? Printers can be wireless now, but, for those that aren’t, you just get a USB-C to whatever cable (folks refer to cables as dongles these days for some reason).

Considering that USB-C was designed as the physical successor to USB-A, the ONLY reason to include it on a modern machine is for folks that don’t want to replace their USB-A memory stick… for sentimental reasons? Or don’t want to replace that USB-A ended cable because… they enjoy the fun of seeing if they’ll plug it in right the first time?
 
Could not think of a worse camera to argue that an SD Card slot is a good thing.
Care to explain why? It’s a pretty recent camera and has an sd slot, the poster I was answering stated all modern cameras have ditched sd. They didn’t.

Also, I didn’t say if it’s good or bad.
 
Yeah. Cutting movies for example requires the whole power of the machine and battery power drains fast - even on Apple MacBook Pros. That's at least my experience. So longer sessions without a power cord are not possible and this is, where MagSafe comes into play. Still I believe, Apple has some of the best batteries available on the market in his devices. But until today, mankind is not capable of building the type of batteries, people really would love to have. They drain too fast under load and they age too fast. No breakthrough here in sight IMO.
You get “the whole power of the machine” when on battery with Apple Silicon.
 
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I can kill a fully charged battery on my 16" in an hour as I did in a meeting not so long ago.

All I hope for is a powerful GPU. This is what will make my day [and my pro apps all supporting M properly.......]
Yes, but there’s a huge difference between the Apple Silicon Macs and the Intel ones when it comes to battery life.
 
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