Apple to Begin Advertising Push Targeting Windows 7 Launch?

[LagunaSol]

What are the Mac equivalents for:

Visio?
Sharepoint?
Project?

OmniGraffle

SharePoint sucks - as my office's resident SharePoint guru, I can tell you this from experience

There are plenty of project management apps for the Mac.

 

[HLdan]

You're right! I'm one of them. I support an ALL Windows environment as IT Manager, and my everyday system is a White Macbook. I can do everything on it from Word processing & Spreadsheets to Mail/Calendar, and infrastructure support. I don't use Word or Excel either; in fact I have NO MS products running on it. It's fast, easy, and no worries of viruses, etc. I've had it for over a year now, and it's as fast now as it was when I started...

Funny how rumor's and FUD start...

Good 4 U!! Funny how PC people keep thinking Mac users can't get along in life with Windows. Good thing most of us know better.

 

[LagunaSol]

1) 10x huh? Impressive. Cite?

2) you have no clue what Visio is, do you?

You're feeding the troll...

 

[HLdan]

and for the 'average home user' there's no reason to buy a mac? You try and simplify it down to a level - they're just the same tools but in a more expensive box, right?

WRONG, the average home user is the perfect target to buy a Mac. The average home user knows jack crap about maintaining their computer and a Windows PC will just make life very difficult for them as most home users have clogged Registries and corrupt files and outdated anti-virus. This same thing will happen to new home users of a Windows 7 PC. Nothing changes.

 

[Fastshutter]

You dont need these products to be productive

1) First of all, Mac has a "fluid" and "natural" interface that instantly makes every human being 10X more productive on average

2) Visio? Who needs that. On Mac OSX Snow Leopard, you can directly upload your movies to youtube via quicktime. Cant say the same for windows where you need to click more. We dont need Visio office stuff anymore. A refreshing Quicktime X will change everything

3) Sharepoint? It's pointless. Did you know that iChat has different backgrounds? That alone is enough for communication. Sharepoint doesnt hold a candle to that

4)Project? It's another virus ridden product. Macs are 25X more stable that Windows. That alone is enough

A lot of companies are dumping Windows and migrating to Mac and iPhone for business. In 3 years, Microsoft is dead!

If there was a Nobel Prize for Stupid, not even Republicans would deny you deserved it. Not. A. Single. One.

 

[RoboCop001]

I'm referring to the Mac people who just repeat every exaggeration that the commercial makes. That makes then sheep's. It's what I consider sheep, who act like their **** doesn't stink. I'm not talking about simple calling of names, I'm talking about the whole attitude.

Hey! It's rude to call people sheep!





......... The preferred term is sheeple!

 

[Terminal.app]

I think we'll be seeing a lot more Windows 7 Boot Camp users, now that MS has finally come out with a usable, stable OS. Neither OS X or Windows will be going anywhere, they'll just have to learn how to tolerate one another.

 

[Fastshutter]

OmniGraffle

SharePoint sucks - as my office's resident SharePoint guru, I can tell you this from experience

There are plenty of project management apps for the Mac.

But what is the Mac equavialent for Sharepoint? That's great that you don't like it, but I need a competent replacement for it. We're not going to abandon the hundreds of team sites we created and rely on without something better.

 

[inkswamp]

He only fails to mention that many of the people who will buy a Mac will eventually run Windows 7 on it. Mac sells mostly increased because they can run Windows.

True, but it's a convenience for former Windows users. It's not like people are rushing out to buy Macs just to run Windows. I assume that's not the argument you're making because that's silly.

OS X is still a niche platform, and one that is incompatible with almost everything that has the words "enterprise" or "business" on it.

I have successfully integrated Macs into a Windows network. They work just fine with Active Directory and they present no more trouble in that regard than a Windows PC. I hear this gripe all the time but if you know what you're doing, it's not that hard. I suspect most system admins don't know much about Macs and refuse to expand their horizons which is where the real "problem" with Macs lie.

For a lot of the so-called "switchers", the Intel chip and the Windows compatibility through Boot Camp, Parallels or VMWare were the reasons why they could "switch". (Without actually switching. They just bought a second platform with the bundle.)

Again, you're saying running Windows is the primary reason people are buying Macs? I doubt it. Having the familiarity of Windows around with the option to fall back to it, makes it very attractive option for potential switchers. I've heard lots of talk along those lines. I have, however, never heard one person talk about buying a Mac just so they could run Windows as their primary OS.

 

[BongoBanger]

WRONG, the average home user is the perfect target to buy a Mac. The average home user knows jack crap about maintaining their computer and a Windows PC will just make life very difficult for them as most home users have clogged Registries and corrupt files and outdated anti-virus. This same thing will happen to new home users of a Windows 7 PC. Nothing changes.

I'm sure the average user will be equally delighted with OS X's somewhat partisan approach to third party applications, habit of randomly failing to recognise wireless networks and occasional beachballs of death.

 

[Wakashizuma]

I'm sure the average user will be equally delighted with OS X's somewhat partisan approach to third party applications, habit of randomly failing to recognise wireless networks and occasional beachballs of death.

And OS deciding to delete the users' file during upgrade!

 

[nefan65]

But what is the Mac equavialent for Sharepoint? That's great that you don't like it, but I need a competent replacement for it. We're not going to abandon the hundreds of team sites we created and rely on without something better.

There's one called Alfresco. It's open source, and runs on anything. They also have a purchased/hosted solution. The free one is available for Windows, OSX, Linux...

 

[HLdan]

Sorry, I can't help but laugh at this. $500 are not "trash" computers, those are >budget< computers for people, well, less fortunate than you. In fact, a $500 custom made PC can have way better components than the cheaper Mac Mini available.

Viruses don't get into Windows without user interaction. Those days are over. I won't lie and say that the NT kernel is as secure as any *nix kernel out there, but security is something MS has worked very hard to get right.

Viruses on Windows, people bitch with good reason. MS adds UAC and people bitch. MS improves UAC and a few still bitch. What gives. The UAC interaction principle is the same as in any other system: "Application wants access to system files?"---> "Ask user for permission". Remember the trojan that was being spread on pirated copies of iWork? Well, you ARE safe as long as you don't allow risky **** in your computer. Common Sense.

You know what's interesting about it though? Apple doesn't need any level of UAC, as usual their way is simpler, much more secure and very efficient. Apple simply requires the user to type in their password before installing anything. Hmm, wonder why MS can't do that for Windows? As usual MS has to do it the complicated way and it still does nothing to increase security on Windows. What's the point of adjusting the setting in UAC, if you lower it, less chances for security, if you increase it, more chances for the end user to be annoyed by pop ups and still no better security. Windows FAIL.

 

[soldierblue]

The W3 usage stats have Windows 7 at half of the usage share of all Mac OS versions before it's even out.

Funny that.

I mean, these people are obviously mindless cretins. I mean seriously, they use Windows, guys.

I'm starting to feel like a douche just because I own a Mac.

 

[Wakashizuma]

You know what's interesting about it though? Apple doesn't need any level of UAC, as usual their way is simpler, much more secure and very efficient. Apple simply requires the user to type in their password before installing anything. Hmm, wonder why MS can't do that for Windows. As usual MS has to do it the complicated way and it still does nothing to increase security on Windows. What's the point of adjusting the setting in UAC, if you lower it, less chances for security, if you increase it, more chances for the end user to be annoyed by pop ups and still no better security. Windows FAIL.

If Apple had a larger worldwide marketshare, then they would have the same problems. Right now their worldwide marketshare is next to a rounding error so yeah nothing to worry about there!

According to Phil Schiller, instead of clicking few times and upgrading Windows it's better to spend $1000+ and get a slow mac computer that uses yesterday's components! It aligns perfectly well with the Apple Sheep community though; users that are not evolved enough to do some simple stuff in today's digital age! Phil must be smoking a lot of crack lately! Phil thinks PC users are noob hipsters like mac users; somebody just hold their hand and guide them at every turn!

 

[Eidorian]

You know what's interesting about it though? Apple doesn't need any level of UAC, as usual their way is simpler, much more secure and very efficient. Apple simply requires the user to type in their password before installing anything. Hmm, wonder why MS can't do that for Windows? As usual MS has to do it the complicated way and it still does nothing to increase security on Windows. What's the point of adjusting the setting in UAC, if you lower it, less chances for security, if you increase it, more chances for the end user to be annoyed by pop ups and still no better security. Windows FAIL.

I don't think you're using OS X then. Did you do the Terminal commands to disable quarantine?

 

[LagunaSol]

I mean, these people are obviously mindless cretins. I mean seriously, they use Windows, guys.

Odd, I don't see much commentary in this thread implying the stupidity of Windows users. Try browsing a Windows user-heavy forum and see what they say about Apple and Mac users - if you want a real show in denigration and verbal assault.

I'm starting to feel like a douche just because I own a Mac.

Um...why?

See my above comment about typical Windows user commentary. If you're going to rate your self-image solely based on the attitudes of fellow customers who use the same products as you, you certainly wouldn't be happy as a Microsoft customer...or a Sony customer...or a Chevrolet customer...or a Pepsi customer...or a...

 

[rjohnstone]

The W3 usage stats have Windows 7 at half of the usage share of all Mac OS versions before it's even out.

Very funny indeed. It's not even officially released and it's already on a roll.


Source: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp

 

[LagunaSol]

If Apple had a larger worldwide marketshare, then they would have the same problems. Right now their worldwide marketshare is next to a rounding error so yeah nothing to worry about there!

Yeah, and if you didn't live in Compton you wouldn't need a deadbolt on the door. What is your point exactly? Your If/Then is completely irrelevant.

It aligns perfectly well with the Apple Sheep community though; users that are not evolved enough to do some simple stuff in today's digital age!

Funny how it's my Windows-using friends and relatives who are always asking me for help because they have no idea how to work their "market share-dominating" computer. Who are the sheep again, exactly?

It appears you're just another of the MacRumors agitators here to berate the Apple "sheep" and sing the praises of all things non-Apple while spewing juvenile insults.

Welcome to my blocked user list. You can keep BongoBanger company. The ridiculous trolling on this forum is becoming unbearable.

 

[Terminal.app]

When is XP finally going to die? I can't wait for when it does, I'm so sick of it.

Windows 7 needs the 90% market share so Apple will stay small and efficient and stable.

 

[Wakashizuma]

Yeah, and if you didn't live in Compton you wouldn't need a deadbolt on the door. What is your point exactly? Your If/Then is completely irrelevant.



Funny how it's my Windows-using friends and relatives who are always asking me for help because they have no idea how to work their "market share-dominating" computer. Who are the sheep again, exactly?

It appears you're just another of the MacRumors agitators here to berate the Apple "sheep" and sing the praises of all things non-Apple while spewing juvenile insults.

Welcome to my blocked user list. You can keep BongoBanger company. The ridiculous trolling on this forum is becoming unbearable.

So far the worldwide marketshare for Apple is a rounding error and the corporate presence is nothing so yeah buddy; it's tough sometimes to accept the facts. Not everyone is a noob wanna be who wants to feel "cool" by owning a mac. I know that starbucks latte feels incomplete without playing around with your "iChat"! Most of the people can actually think!

Did you tell your relatives about that amazing "iDelete" feature in Snow Leopard? Apparently it uses GPU acceleration to make process as seamless as possible!

 

[kevingaffney]

Recently switched to a macbook pro for my graphics work. Still use pc's to output work to printers and cnc machines at work because thats the way they were originally set up. From a user of both platforms, 15 years with pc's, there is no comparison between the two. The mac os wins hands down and there is no argument as far as I'm concerned

 

[MacHiavelli]

migration costs could be $1,035 to $1,930 (£635 to £1,185) per user to move from Windows XP to Windows 7,


http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1558769/gartner-pushes-windows-upgrades

 

[Wakashizuma]

Recently switched to a macbook pro for my graphics work. Still use pc's to output work to printers and cnc machines at work because thats the way they were originally set up. From a user of both platforms, 15 years with pc's, there is no comparison between the two. The mac os wins hands down and there is no argument as far as I'm concerned

Did you also start wearing tight shirts and all star shoes and feel like a leftie hipster who thinks different? How Do those starbucks latte taste? Have you used the "iDelete" feature to increase your productibity?

 

[MacHiavelli]

macs are much cheaper to run. and miles better.