Apple to Begin Advertising Push Targeting Windows 7 Launch?

[Ronlap]

"and then reinstalling all of their old programs, assuming they still have the CD"

How old is WinXP? 2001? I believe that a lot of software was still being shipped on floppies in 2001, wasn’t it? This is just a guess, but it could be that Win PCs old enough to have floppies won't have the cojones to run Win 7. Oh, and I hope that you kept your downloaded software installation files safe somewhere.

 

[Jim Campbell]

Of course, you *could* purchase a $1000+ Mac just to run Windows. Which is rather funny.

Of course, the funniest thing is they way the thought of someone running Windows exclusively on their Apple hardware is somehow supposed to upset Apple fans, or in some way be 'one in the eye' for Apple.

Apple has your money, mate. You really think they give a flying, errr, fudge how often you boot into Windows and how often into OSX?

Cheers!

Jim

 

[Fastshutter]

"and then reinstalling all of their old programs, assuming they still have the CD"

How old is WinXP? 2001? I believe that a lot of software was still being shipped on floppies in 2001, wasn’t it? This is just a guess, but it could be that Win PCs old enough to have floppies won't have the cojones to run Win 7. Oh, and I hope that you kept your downloaded software installation files safe somewhere.

Actually, I do. I have a folders called "Windows Software Applications" & "OSX Software Applications" where I store all of my downloaded installation files. It get's backed up regularly on harddrive and DVD. It is DUMB DUMB DUMB to purchase anything and not back it up.

I still have my PRE SERVICE PACK-1 copy of XP. Why would I throw away something I paid over $100 for?

PS, that six year old Dell that runs Win 7 just fine has a floppy drive.

 

[Vulpinemac]

In the past year, I've had a MB and MBP (both 13 unibody) and both had to go in for massive service within the first 30 days.

Laptops, by nature, are generally crap.

Perhaps. But this Compaq was a desktop machine, not a laptop.

 

[djchuckc27]

god i hope it's just not another mac vs. pc commercial.

 

[WeegieMac]

I have a 30GB Vista partition on my iMac using Boot Camp and, in fairness, it's fast and responsive. There's two reasons I have it. The first is that my wife isn't a tech head and is used to, and is comfortable with, Windows.

The second reason is Half Life 2. I still love that game and it's subsequent episodes.

 

[Fastshutter]

err no they don't, I haven't, I've upgraded from tiger to leopard and then to snow leopard on all the boxes in the house and they've all worked flawlessly.

Don't generalize when you don't know what you're talking about.

You are correct, let me clarify my position with an example:

Every 18 months a new version of OSX is released. There is always problems with the new release, and the general concensus is to "format & install" when upgrading OSX. But when windows makes it a requirement for certain installations, the Apple fanboys laugh about the rediculous requirement. It's another example of talking out of both sides of your mouths.

 

[nefan65]

You are correct, let me clarify my position with an example:

Every 18 months a new version of OSX is released. There is always problems with the new release, and the general concensus is to "format & install" when upgrading OSX. But when windows makes it a requirement for certain installations, the Apple fanboys laugh about the rediculous requirement. It's another example of talking out of both sides of your mouths.

We have 3 Macs; 2 Macbooks and a 20" iMac. All of them came with Leopard installed. I updated all of them with the Leopard incremental updates [10.5.x], and never had issues. I bought SL Family pack when it came out. I installed/upgraded all 3 with no issues at all. Setting were fine, files were fine, etc. Took me all of 45 minutes for all 3.

Like he said...Don't generalize.

 

[cumanzor]

Doesn't matter if it's the oldest joke in the book, it's still real. I would never log into my banking account online using any Windows PC, my security is important to me, Windows 7 doesn't fix this. Just as customers going in to buy a new computer have the mentality that Macs are more expensive. Thanks to Dell and HP making surplus trash for $500, the price complaint about Macs is still real.

Sorry, I can't help but laugh at this. $500 are not "trash" computers, those are >budget< computers for people, well, less fortunate than you. In fact, a $500 custom made PC can have way better components than the cheaper Mac Mini available.

Viruses don't get into Windows without user interaction. Those days are over. I won't lie and say that the NT kernel is as secure as any *nix kernel out there, but security is something MS has worked very hard to get right.

Viruses on Windows, people bitch with good reason. MS adds UAC and people bitch. MS improves UAC and a few still bitch. What gives. The UAC interaction principle is the same as in any other system: "Application wants access to system files?"---> "Ask user for permission". Remember the trojan that was being spread on pirated copies of iWork? Well, you ARE safe as long as you don't allow risky **** in your computer. Common Sense.

 

[MH01]

That's quite clever, actually.

They were at first, now they are like a broken record.

 

[Nuvi]

Yep good time to switch.

It isn't going to be any more painful to switch to OS/X rather than Win7 for XP users.

Move from XP to Windows 7 is easy. Lets face it, Vista was a disaster but Win7 is solid.

 

[MacDSmith2]

There are many people who run Windows simply because that was what came with their computer. And their computer seemed relatively inexpensive. But that doesn't mean they're happy with their experience.

My Dad recently switched from his PC to a Mac. I asked him why and he said he was tired of all the Virus hassles and the "take over your PC" malware threats in the PC world and didn't want to have to deal with that any more. So he bought a Mac. I think MS doesn't realize how really fed up people are with the vulnerability of Windows to be exploited from the Web. I saw the US Army recently recommend switching to Macs for that very reason.

 

[MH01]

So Windows 7 is going to magically make all those viruses available for Windows dissapear?

Not as well as SL in making your data vanish!

 

[Shivetya]

But, I DO hear from friends who have made the switch from Windows PCs to Macs. NONE of them have installed Windows on their new machines. None of them.

MikeS

I wish I could get more than one to switch, they get all worked up to that level until the see how much it costs.

 

[4mat]

Wirelessly posted (SAMSUNG-SGH-A821/1.0 SHP/VPP/R5 NetFront/3.4 SMM-MMS/1.2.0 profile/MIDP-2.0 configuration/CLDC-1.1)

I think the whole 'people will run Windows7 on a Mac' is a stupid argument. If consumers buy a Mac and a copy of windows to put on it, it may be an extra copy of Windows sold, but it's NOT a sale of a Dell or HP or whatever. No matter which OS becomes the primary OS, it's still a Mac being sold.

 

[MH01]

No demand for it, especially in this market when it's difficult enough to sell desktops.

Judging by Apple's strategy (successful especially in a recession), they understand the market perfectly.

Do you by chance work in an office? In this little building there are thousands and thousands of computers, 95% are dell desktops. Your only looking at one segment mate and making it our that apple is doing so well. Not everyone is rich or has rich parents.

Apples problem is that it has not price point for a mid ranged tower. They have ultra $$$$ pros and then they have two variations of laptops, one an actual laptop and the other inside and imac. They have no computers with real grunt and GPU power under a pro. But heck, they are shiny...

 

[LagunaSol]

OS X is still a niche platform, and one that is incompatible with almost everything that has the words "enterprise" or "business" on it.

Yeah, like Excel. Word. PowerPoint. Exchange. The Web. The Mac is, like, totally incompatible with those things. Totally.

Move from XP to Windows 7 is easy. Lets face it, Vista was a disaster but Win7 is solid.

Newsflash: Vista was just as "solid" at this stage (i.e. pre-launch) as Win7. The majority of reviewers liked it. The "disaster" came post-launch. Only time will tell if Windows 7 will be a success.

I've been using the RC on my Mac, and while it's better than XP, it certainly doesn't deserve the amount of hype it's getting (and still isn't as good as OS X). Of course much of that hype is based on the argument that Win7 doesn't suck like Vista. Hardly a ringing endorsement...

 

[Jimmy James]

I have both windows and mac computers. When I need to replace one I will buy another windows computer.

Until macs can play compressed video files properly I'm not buying another one.

 

[nefan65]

I wish I could get more than one to switch, they get all worked up to that level until the see how much it costs.

Oh God...Not the "Macs are more than a PC" argument!!?? I just went to DELL, and did a comparison. I took one of their low end, Vostro line laptops and compared it to my Macbook [13.3" screens]. Same chip, speed, RAM, OS, Webcam, etc. When I was done, the DELL Cost $1,004.00/USD, plus another $50 for S&H, so a total of $1,054.00/USD. My Macbook, purchased at an Apple Store, cost me $1099.00/USD.

Granted...the MB will cost more if you're comparing the BestBuy Sunday paper special running Vista Home. But if you compare part for part, the difference is minimal. The extra $45.00 for the MB is well worth it to me, considering it's running OS X.

 

[sined13]

Ok, done.

Now what?

Ok, done...what?

Did you try some software that may (or may not) be malware or a Trojan, and/or did you do some proper research on this? If you really want to test this, it shouldn't be too hard to find a malicious piece of code and try it for sure. In fact, any developer on a Mac platform should be able to whip a little Trojan up in a few minutes. I personally wouldn't recommend you actually run it unless you have a complete backup of your data...but that's just me.

Despite what they like to tell you, the vast majority of 'questionable' software is actually perfectly safe. But Adobe and MS aren't going to say that are they?

I wouldn't know, I always get my software through proper channels. But having worked in a security-related field for nearly 10 years, I wouldn't be as confident as you apparently are.

 

[nefan65]

Do you by chance work in an office? In this little building there are thousands and thousands of computers, 95% are dell desktops. Your only looking at one segment mate and making it our that apple is doing so well. Not everyone is rich or has rich parents.

Apples problem is that it has not price point for a mid ranged tower. They have ultra $$$$ pros and then they have two variations of laptops, one an actual laptop and the other inside and imac. They have no computers with real grunt and GPU power under a pro. But heck, they are shiny...

Comical. People that do large spreadsheets, in offices, feel they need a "real powerful computer, because I crunch a lot of numbers". What BS. 99% of the PC's in business today are under utilized. Accountants, Marketing staff, and general business users don't need Quad Core systems with 4GB of RAM, and a dedicated video card. The main reason their systems slow down, is because of poorly written applications, and crap they don't need running in the background. Oh, and because Windows fragmenting the disk and registry, but that's a whole different argument....

 

[jaw04005]

At this point, it’s like Apple is targeting the people on these forums instead of the general consumer. The only demographic that really understands the ‘Mac vs. PC’ ads are geeks.

Apple needs to get back to touting what’s great about their operating system and products. They’ve never tried to do that with Mac OS X. At one point, they developed some 10.2 Jaguar OS ads, but never showed them (at least here in the United States).

 

[nefan65]

At this point, it’s like Apple is targeting the people on these forums instead of the general consumer. The only demographic that really understands the ‘Mac vs. PC’ ads are geeks.

Apple needs to get back to touting what’s great about their operating system and products. They’ve never tried to do that with Mac OS X. At one point, they developed some 10.2 Jaguar OS ads, but never showed them (at least here in the United States).

+1.
I agree. They should have ads that show not only an iMac or Macbook Pro, but OS X. Show the ease of use, or iLife creating a movie, or Web page. Images and pictures speak volumes...

 

[Arcadie]

I would not be surprised if Apple held a special media event (showcasing new MacBooks, iMacs, etc.) on 10/22 to counter the release of Windows 7.

Wouldnt you want it on the 21 st so they would be available on the 22nd?

 

[Fastshutter]

We have 3 Macs; 2 Macbooks and a 20" iMac. All of them came with Leopard installed. I updated all of them with the Leopard incremental updates [10.5.x], and never had issues. I bought SL Family pack when it came out. I installed/upgraded all 3 with no issues at all. Setting were fine, files were fine, etc. Took me all of 45 minutes for all 3.

Like he said...Don't generalize.

Do you two even understand what "general consensus" means? For instance, when I say something like "the general consensus is to wipe/install?"

Go look at any OSX upgrade thread and count how many people reccomend that path over the upgrade path. Even some of the people who took the upgrade path tend to call it 'daring' in one way or another.