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You get that $15 number (assuming it is correct) as average income. That does not take into account the income disparity. There are literally millions of people in India who can most definitely afford an iPhone. However splurging so much money on a phone does not make sense in India when you take into account the cost of living in India and how far that kind of money will take you.
You underestimate the number of people around the world who do not earn a lot and buy an iPhone anyway, usually as part of a mobile contract.
 
You underestimate the number of people around the world who do not earn a lot and buy an iPhone anyway, usually as part of a mobile contract.
Thats the problem though. Mobile contracts are not common in India as elsewhere. You have to pay the amount up front many times which makes it even more difficult to justify the purchase.
 
People in India love iPhones, i went for a cousins wedding 2 years ago, i couldn't believe the craze for iPhones there, my cousin who makes a $100 dollars a month could afford it on a payment plan, i don't see why others couldn't if they really wanted it, plus i was thinking maybe apple makes a different firmware for these iPhones with the new iOS that doesn't make it seem the phone is obsolete
 
If at all, Apple wont be able to sell a lot of iPhones not because people cannot afford it but there are plenty of much much cheaper options that give similar features and more than acceptable quality. You can do a lot of things with the kind of money an iPhone sells for in India.

That's an interesting way of looking at it. And a cheaper option is something likely appreciated more because it's affordable versus having the option of a device that's to expensive and out of reach for the middle class.

@Sunnysunnysingh. Being your from India, What are your thoughts on a cheaper iPhone in India and how do you feel it would apply to middle the class?
 
People in India love iPhones, i went for a cousins wedding 2 years ago, i couldn't believe the craze for iPhones there, my cousin who makes a $100 dollars a month could afford it on a payment plan, i don't see why others couldn't if they really wanted it, plus i was thinking maybe apple makes a different firmware for these iPhones with the new iOS that doesn't make it seem the phone is obsolete
Sorry to be blunt. But if you buy an iPhone when you make $100 per month (even if it is on a payment plan), its not called being able to afford an iPhone. Its called being bad with your finances. Unless maybe he is a bachelor and lives with his parents and has no expenses to be worried about.
 
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Maybe more countries should adopt the if you want to sell it here you have to build it here stance.
 
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Maybe more countries should adopt the if you want to sell it here you have to build it here stance.
India does not have any such rule. The rule is, if you want to start a single-brand retail store in India, you need to source at least 30% of your material from India. Manufacturing in India is more to do with the long term strategy of Apple to create a big marketplace in the future keeping in mind the growing Indian middle class.
 
That's an interesting way of looking at it. And a cheaper option is something likely appreciated more because it's affordable versus having the option of a device that's to expensive and out of reach for the middle class.

@Sunnysunnysingh. Being your from India, What are your thoughts on a cheaper iPhone in India and how do you feel it would apply to middle the class?
What about the latest models??I will be more interested in buying the latest iPhone 8 not the old, and if the price is really lower than where i live :(, and for the middle class people in India I think there are still so many Chines companies which gives more bang for the buck (ex - xiaomi,gionee, oppo,vivo etc) My relatives living in India (or the people i know) every one owns cheap android phones. :mad: and no body is willing to buy a iPhone at even 20k price tag
 
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Sorry to be blunt. But if you buy an iPhone when you make $100 per month (even if it is on a payment plan), its not called being able to afford an iPhone. Its called being bad with your finances. Unless maybe he is a bachelor and lives with his parents and has no expenses to be worried about.

While I do agree with you, $100 a month in India wouldn't be as bad as it would be elsewhere. The cost of living is much cheaper, and $100 can get you much more in India, than it could in the US for example.
But, even with the cheaper cost of living, @ $100 a month, you would have to save many months income just for a phone.

This reminds me of that scene from Eurotrip:

 
I have noticed this with my iPad Mini 2. After upgrading to iOS 10, it started to behave as if it is low on RAM. Safari is the worse, as scrolling a page is very choppy, and the page turns white. It comes back after a few seconds. IMO, it is probably page swapping everything.

Typing also sucks, as there is a lag while typing. I can type a sentence, and it doesn't appear for a 3-5 seconds.

These issues seem to vary though depending on the device.
It's sad to say this but my year old iPad mini 4 does the same. I should probably get an ad blocker but on my iPhone, sometimes ad blockers meant pages wouldn't load at all on some tech news sites. Any blog site with discus as the forum or comments interface really bogs my iPad down. Android Central is a real pain to read...everyone there complains about it and they are on a variety of devices. I think it's the way some of these sites construct their pages.

The typing lag happened to me a long time ago on my old full sized iPad. I forget which generation that was. I got rid of the lag by scratching my iPad and reinstalling everything as new. There was a corruption somewhere I guess.
 
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It's sad to say this but my year old iPad mini 4 does the same.
That is sad.
I got rid of the lag by scratching my iPad and reinstalling everything as new. There was a corruption somewhere I guess.
This could be the issue, and maybe I might give a reinstalling a try, but the forum is full of posts about iOS 10 issues on the iPad Mini 2. A lot of other people reporting the same thing.

I just think that iOS 10 uses more RAM resources, or manages RAM badly on the iPad Mini 2, or a combo of the two.
 
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Sorry to be blunt. But if you buy an iPhone when you make $100 per month (even if it is on a payment plan), its not called being able to afford an iPhone. Its called being bad with your finances. Unless maybe he is a bachelor and lives with his parents and has no expenses to be worried about.

haha yeah thats exactly what it is, i didn't personally see why he needed a phone that was his 9 months his salary.
 
This year they are definitely dropping 32 bit support. So that basically gives newly purchased iPhone 6 models just 1-1.5 years of software life.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple dropped support for devices with only 1GB of RAM next year, dropping both the 5s and 6 at the same time.
 
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So, does this effectively kill the "no supply chain" argument against building iPhones in the US?
 
India does not have any such rule. The rule is, if you want to start a single-brand retail store in India, you need to source at least 30% of your material from India. Manufacturing in India is more to do with the long term strategy of Apple to create a big marketplace in the future keeping in mind the growing Indian middle class.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Slice it anyway you want, Apple has to pay to play.
That is what I was speaking to, maybe governments should make it a requirement of businesses to invest in their country if the company wants to sell its goods and services there.
 
I didn't. I didn't say anything about dropping support. RAM has zero to do with it. I was just saying why people might be jumping to that conclusion. People think RAM size is related to 32/64 bit architectures...but it isn't. The A7 was the first 64bit chip and nothing currently ships with that chip so it's been a while that the OS has been supporting 32bit devices. I guess it is possible that Apple cuts off support for 32bit hardware with its iOS11 release. But that isn't going to affect the 6 or 6s unless its artificial Apple limitations.
Completely true.
 
You could argue it, but not sure it would be a successful argument.

Sure you can , cause the arguenent is based on form factor.

When I sold my 6 plus and used my 5S, it was a great experience. Given the current pricing my next phone is a 128 SE, I'm through paying £1000+ for a phone when the SE is an excellent phone and feels so much better in hand
 
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