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Diggin' those superdrives

Did you guys know those things can actually play CD's? And burn them?

Even, what are they called, oh yeah, DVD's! And even burn DUAL-LAYER DVD's too!!!

Wow. What cutting edge technology!! NO ONE ELSE has that!!

Shh. Don't tell anyone. You can even get an external floppy for these babies!!

Wow, I can't wait. I actually have only two programs on my setup that can actually use 4 cores, let alone 8. But who cares, "IT'S THE FASTEST MAC EVER."

Going down to line up at the Apple store now. Just as soon as I sell the kids on the way.

:apple:
 
Did you guys know those things can actually play CD's? And burn them?

Even, what are they called, oh yeah, DVD's! And even burn DUAL-LAYER DVD's too!!!

Wow. What cutting edge technology!! NO ONE ELSE has that!!

Shh. Don't tell anyone. You can even get an external floppy for these babies!!

Wow, I can't wait. I actually have only two programs on my setup that can actually use 4 cores, let alone 8. But who cares, "IT'S THE FASTEST MAC EVER."

Going down to line up at the Apple store now. Just as soon as I sell the kids on the way.

:apple:

what the heck is your point? If someone has only one program that can use 8 cores, but it's critical to their workflow, it's still worth it. If your 2 programs aren't critical to your workflow, you're not the sort of power user to whom mac pro's are targeted.

And you can always add a blu-ray drive aftermarket. Pretty much everyone adds their own hard disks and RAM, so adding a blu-ray shouldn't be such a big deal to you.
 
what the heck is your point? If someone has only one program that can use 8 cores, but it's critical to their workflow, it's still worth it. If your 2 programs aren't critical to your workflow, you're not the sort of power user to whom mac pro's are targeted.

And you can always add a blu-ray drive aftermarket. Pretty much everyone adds their own hard disks and RAM, so adding a blu-ray shouldn't be such a big deal to you.

I totally agree. I'm getting really sick of all the comments about useless cores. I'm going to get either a 6 core or 8 core machine.

"But your software can't even use all those cores!!" :rolleyes:

Well, then you go ahead and get your duo core processors. Don't come whining to me though, when in 2 years all software has been updated to use multiple cores, and your machine is struggling. While you're forced to shell out extra $$$ for a new machine, I'll be using my 2 year old machine just fine.
 
small point, but does anyone else think it's odd that they spec an 18x superdrive when the latest superdrive is and has been a 20x model for some time now?
 
Hmm just got off the phone with Apple and the person I spoke to said that they got an email recently saying that the "9th date is incorrect". He also said it would "probably be later in the month" as they are "pushing several products back"

Sad news if its true :( ... Was really hoping to order on Monday
 
Just from your few posts in this thread I now know to ignore you.

Heh, and from now on don't quote him either, because then I won't have to see his posts either (I added him to my ignore list a long time ago).

jW
 
So we really have no idea if they are going to go on sale on Monday. What is the history on this? I thought Apple always did this sort of thing on a Tuesday. Are there any other macs that went on sale on a Monday?

I am really hoping it is Monday or Tuesday next week. I can't take a wait until the end of the month.
 
Hmm just got off the phone with Apple and the person I spoke to said that they got an email recently saying that the "9th date is incorrect". He also said it would "probably be later in the month" as they are "pushing several products back"

Sad news if its true :( ... Was really hoping to order on Monday

Wow, way to go Apple. :mad: This wouldn't surprise me at all if it was true.
 
Heh, and from now on don't quote him either, because then I won't have to see his posts either (I added him to my ignore list a long time ago).

jW

And tried to get me kicked off here too... how'd THAT work out for you?

I just love jerks who love censorship.

:apple:
 
Well, then you go ahead and get your duo core processors. Don't come whining to me though, when in 2 years all software has been updated to use multiple cores, and your machine is struggling. While you're forced to shell out extra $$$ for a new machine, I'll be using my 2 year old machine just fine.

No your 2 year old Mac Pro will have become outdated and you will want a new one. And wouldn't you know, by then :apple: releases a 16 core Pro with BD.

Hamster meet wheel. :D
 
No your 2 year old Mac Pro will have become outdated and you will want a new one. And wouldn't you know, by then :apple: releases a 16 core Pro with BD.

Hamster meet wheel. :D

That's only if you need the latest and greatest all the time. Unfortunately, my budget does not allow for the "latest and greatest".

If you ask me, if you buy into the hype of always needing the newest stuff, you either have too much money to waste, or are just a fool.
 
While the update doesn't exactly have me jumping out of my seat, it's a welcome sight. As much as I'd love a 12-core machine, I think 4 will suit me very well (six if the upgrade cost isn't too high). For as much as the power increase in the Pro line seems to be slagging, I have to say that Apple hardware has served me pretty well. I was editing 21MP RAW images on my Dual G5 until very recently, and the reason I had to stop was that the video card died.

Anybody know if I can use screen sharing on a G5 without a video card? For some reason when I use screen sharing now the graphics are all still screwed up. Doesn't make any sense to me since I'm using screen sharing and not a monitor. I hope to use it as a file server/iTunes player/etc for a good while to come.
 
While the update doesn't exactly have me jumping out of my seat, it's a welcome sight. As much as I'd love a 12-core machine, I think 4 will suit me very well (six if the upgrade cost isn't too high). For as much as the power increase in the Pro line seems to be slagging, I have to say that Apple hardware has served me pretty well. I was editing 21MP RAW images on my Dual G5 until very recently, and the reason I had to stop was that the video card died.

Why would you get a MacPro over an iMac if you only need 4 cores. Doesn't seem cost effective.
 
September.. The 24" ACD is $799 now , while supplies last.



Ever since Apple switched to intel the cheapest Mac Pro's started at $2499 , just look at the WWDC 2006 keynote... Also Apple has priced these machines very competitively, also the 12-Core behemoth is priced $600 cheaper then HP's 12-Core offering.

Apple has done a great job. Anyone who complains about price doesn't know the competition and what they offer for similar specs.



Not really my friend.

Most of their competitors have dissent i7 models. (imac is a bastard)
 
Hmm just got off the phone with Apple and the person I spoke to said that they got an email recently saying that the "9th date is incorrect". He also said it would "probably be later in the month" as they are "pushing several products back"

Sad news if its true :( ... Was really hoping to order on Monday

Apple is really trying my patience lately. ;(
 
That's only if you need the latest and greatest all the time. Unfortunately, my budget does not allow for the "latest and greatest".

If you ask me, if you buy into the hype of always needing the newest stuff, you either have too much money to waste, or are just a fool.
I for one welcome buying old or used stock. But when you write up a budget for a big corporation and state latest and greatest (old/used not in their vocabulary), that doesnt mean a 2010 model with 2008/09 hardware. So some of us are screwed that way. The cores update dont mean much to me, we need display updates e.g. Quadro 6000 or settle for the older FX5800 :)

Crossing my fingers that this comes thru...
 
Why would you get a MacPro over an iMac if you only need 4 cores. Doesn't seem cost effective.

Other than the two 24" displays I already own? Or the desire to add a number of additional internal hard drives in a RAID configuration? Or upgrade the graphics card? Or add more memory? Or the better processor?

My Dual G5, despite showing its age clearly towards the end, has held up very well. Even once I get a new Pro, it'll still be kicking around for quite a while in some sort of server capacity. I don't know of anybody who still uses an iMac that's more than three years old unless all they need it for is email and reading blogs.

Don't get me wrong, iMacs are great machines but I really need something that'll crunch through 1000 21MP RAW files and still let me do other stuff at the same time. I could probably get by with an iMac for a good while, but given only a $300 price difference and the fact that I don't want to pay for a display I don't need, I don't see why the Pro would be a bad choice. Plus I'm strongly considering a hex-core upgrade.

Just looking at the prices, the high-end iMac is about $2200 (with a very nice 27" display and an extra gig of ram), and the low-end Pro is $2500. I really can't imagine that the hardware in the two machines is equivalent. Sure, we pay a premium for pro-level hardware, but I'm happy to pay it.
 
^^^^ I went for a Pro for the same reasons back 2 years ago. I'm not sure if I would again.

To be honest, apart from the multiple disk issue (and is that such as big deal if your G5 lives on as a server?) you're going to see such a fantastic step up in power to either iMac or Pro that I don't think you'll be worrying about upgrading graphics or the machine's ability to multitask.

And the 27inch LCD is something Apple's going to be charging $1000 for as a stand-alone, so the iMac/MacPro difference is closer to $1300.

You should buy what you want of course, but I just don't think you're going to outgrow a well specced iMac if you've been getting by on a G5 for so long.

(There's a lot to be said for cheaper systems replaced more frequently in terms of a value proposition and staying on fast hardware).

Looking at the Pro Apps I run (Logic, Adobe Lightroom, Final Cut Pro) I'm just not seeing good scalability with a lot more cores. So fewer/faster cores and faster disk subsystems (solid state for cache and temp file storage) will be faster in most cases than 12 under-utilised cores.
 
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