I would really like to upgrade my 5s and my wife's 4s, but the OS is buggy, hangs all the time, and the form factor big, thin, flat, and weak is not what we are looking for. What do we want? A modern, not handicapped 5s size device (thick enough to stand up) that has modern processor and graphics with perfect RF (like our old Nokia). After all, for us, its just a phone that sometimes, but not often, doubles as a window to the web. The thin flimsy thing that drops calls all the time (ATT) is not our cup of tea.
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Apple to Cut iPhone 6s and 6s Plus Production by 30% in Q1 2016
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Apple's doomed! Doomed I tell you!
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Sorry, just had to say it since this is the perfect article for it. Anyway, I know iPhone is Apple's cash cow, but is it really that big a deal if the 6s doesn't outsell the 6? I like 3D Touch and the better camera personally (having owned a 6 and 6s), and the network is definitely better for T-Mobile since the 6s has 700 MHz spectrum where the 6 didn't. But it's fair to say that the 6 had more pent-up hype because of the screen size change and new design, neither of which were the case on the 6s.
Maybe this would be a good time for Apple to contemplate how to make a tablet or laptop that people really, really want, not an iPad Pro and a new MacBook for niche markets?
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Sorry, just had to say it since this is the perfect article for it. Anyway, I know iPhone is Apple's cash cow, but is it really that big a deal if the 6s doesn't outsell the 6? I like 3D Touch and the better camera personally (having owned a 6 and 6s), and the network is definitely better for T-Mobile since the 6s has 700 MHz spectrum where the 6 didn't. But it's fair to say that the 6 had more pent-up hype because of the screen size change and new design, neither of which were the case on the 6s.
Maybe this would be a good time for Apple to contemplate how to make a tablet or laptop that people really, really want, not an iPad Pro and a new MacBook for niche markets?
True, expectations are very low now which isn't a bad thing heading into earnings announcement. We'll all know the truth in a few weeks.
Apple was sold out of the 6S Plus model at most stores since introduction until about November/December. Then they were readily available until just after Christmas. On the 27th/28th, many stores started to lack inventory again.
6S models have faired better throughout that whole period, but showed similar up and down trends.
I haven't seen an iphone sold out like this, and create a craigslist market in years since the original iphone 5 was introduced. Demand on CL was even higher than it was for the iphone 5from what I have seen, at least for the 6S Plus.
Moving forward, who knows. Many news outlets report similar findings (cuts in production), so there must be some truth to th ematter. But I don't think any of this was unexpected given we are on an "S" model cycle, and the iPhone 7 is launching late this year.
6S models have faired better throughout that whole period, but showed similar up and down trends.
I haven't seen an iphone sold out like this, and create a craigslist market in years since the original iphone 5 was introduced. Demand on CL was even higher than it was for the iphone 5from what I have seen, at least for the 6S Plus.
Moving forward, who knows. Many news outlets report similar findings (cuts in production), so there must be some truth to th ematter. But I don't think any of this was unexpected given we are on an "S" model cycle, and the iPhone 7 is launching late this year.
No huge surprise here. Smartphones are maturing. I'm sticking with my 64GB 5S for a bit longer, as there just isn't anything super compelling that I can't do with my current phone. I'd just as soon have the $40/month in my pocket to use on something else.
Highest selling phone on the market and record setting release. But they claim lackluster sales. Sure.
A lot of the bad news has been priced into the stock yet every time we get a new rumor re-iterating previous rumors the stock goes down again.
No huge surprise for what? Apple hasn't reported it's holiday quarter yet nor has it given guidance for the March quarter.
Sorry you're wrong. Not one of the 4 major US carriers is quoting the actual price. AT&T shows the installment amounts in big bold text, Verizon has zero down in big bold text, t-mobile and Sprint also show zero down. The actual price of the phone is in tiny text. Carriers want you want installment plans; they're going out of their way to not show the full price of the phone. What you see is a Droid Turbo 2 for $22 a month compared to an iPhone 6S for $27. Is that extra $5 a month going to scare someone away from buying the 6S? No.
And I'm sorry but nobody thought they were getting an iPhone for $199.
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The Galaxy S6 is roughly $20 a month on Verizon... and the iPhone 6 is roughly $27 a month.
If that extra $7 a month is a problem... I'm not sure how you can afford the $80+ a month it requires for either phone.
I'm also not sure what you mean by "equivalent" since they each run different operating systems.
And the reason the Galaxy and the iPhone are no longer the same price is that Samsung has slashed prices.
Verizon says the Galaxy S6 has a retail price of $476 today. That's quite a reduction from when the Galaxy S6 first came out.
People say Android phones don't hold their value. Well... the value has dropped before they even get sold!
You're right, it's a $7 difference. I don't know where I got the $18 difference from. The Note is also cheaper than the 6s, that part is true.
The point still stands though: the iPhone 6s is now old news, just like the Samsung S6. Samsung is dropping prices, while Apple is cutting supply to maintain a high price. It's still basic supply-demand economics.
I don't see why the price of the plan is an issue: $7 a month is a real savings, plus you're getting more internal storage, a larger screen, etc., which many people care about (especially the storage judging by how people on MR whine about 16GB iPhones).
I can say they're equivalent because they're on roughly equal technological footing. They're as equivalent as a MacBook Pro and say a Dell XPS 13 can be, I suppose.
We will see how Apple's sales are. I suspect they'll still sell a lot of phones, but I'm not sure if they'll break their record last year.
Yes - I cannot justify buying it also (as much as I would love to).
The price in Ireland is €759.00 Includes VAT of approx. €142.00.
I still use an iPhone 4. I remember buying that phone purely for the benefit of receiving email and having access to a proper browser. It works great. Safari is a bit slow though, and I am unable to install some apps obviously because it is so old.
It is a work horse of a phone though. Very well made - maybe too well made (as in - other iPhone 4/4s users and I are struggling to justify upgrading). I was convinced it would have stopped working by now somehow, but lo and behold it still chugs along ok. I can see myself using it for a good while yet unless something comes along
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blows my mind.
Short sighted decision by those folks. The resale value difference two or three years from now between the 6S and those phones will make up most of the price difference in buying the 6S now. And you get the better phone for two or three years in the meantime. There basically is very little additional cost to own a 6S over the other Apple phones unless you break or lose it and don't end up reselling it.
If you want to save money, that is fine. But then you need to save some real money and buy a cheaper phone than the 5S or 6. And probably you want to buy a used iPhone. There you can really save some money.
You understate their stupidity. They know that, but it will still be the end of the world with massively negative analysts forecastes proclaiming the iPhone "dead."
Stock has already taken a hit. Wall Street is definitely predicting slower sales already. But once confirmed, yes it will take another hit. But stock is already down 25% from earlier this year. And that is even with last quarter having huge sales and huge growth in China.
But let's see. Rumors are just rumors.
Doubt it impacts things too much. Nowadays the new phone is free on payment plan instead of $200 on contract. It isn't much different. You actually are less out of pocket now then in the past when you had to choose between free, $100 and $200 upfront costs. If sales are slower it is because of U.S. dollar being stronger and that raising international price a lot (which is what, about 80% of iPhone sales?) and the 6S not being perceived as worthwhile upgrade. Most of my friends bought the 6. I'm the only guy basically I know to buy the 6S (handed down my 6 to Mum). And even one of my friends turned in a 6 for a Galaxy. Crazy, I know.
This...Especially with the perception of the new pricing plans.At this point, I'm holding on to my 5s until 7s. Unlike some, I prefer the s upgrades as usually it's a tweak to the first.
I'm also holding out for the 4" as if I need a larger screen, I use my iPad.
These people aren't going to resell their devices. They'll sell them back to Apple, give them away, or just break them. I doubt a significant portion if iPhone users actually resell their devices.
"Record setting release"? According to who? Apple? They say that with every phone release.
You think it might just be that everyone HAS a phone by now? Saturated market? Everyone can't afford a $1000 phone every year.
I think the next home run feature they need is wireless charging. That would give people a reason to upgrade.
He's not smoking. He's just been drinking the Fandroid Juice. Most of the career-Apple-bashers here have been juicing it up for some time.
Personally, I'd rather drink the Koolaid. Less gassy.
Based on the numbers Tim Cook reported in a press release, numbers they can't lie about or they'd face federal charges against them from the SEC for committing fraud against shareholders for intentionally misleading them, they sold more than any previous releases.
So yes, they had a record setting release. Go ahead and prove otherwise please.
The margin on the iPhone is also way higher. The Intel cpu in the MBA probably cost more then the entire BOM of the 128gb 6s+
SOP for Apple to announce a wonderful product launch ("we sold out in XXX hrs -can't keep up with demand-most successful launch" ... blah blah blah). Consumer marketing strategy 101.
iPhone 6S is not even 4 months old. I wouldn't say that's old news.
Galaxy S6 is almost 9 months old.
But here's why Samsung cuts prices: they sell Android phones. And so do 1,000 other companies. If you want an Android phone... you have plenty to chose from. I believe Samsung lost sales because the S6 didn't have a removable battery or MicroSD card slot.
LG does offer those things. Other manufacturers do too. It's tough to be an Android OEM with so much competition.
Meanwhile... Apple is the exclusive vendor of iOS phones.
And I don't know what to believe about this supposed 30% reduction in iPhone supplies. Other sites are reporting that Apple added another camera supplier. So if you're reporting the first supplier's numbers... of course they'll be lower. I don't know.
This same newspaper reported supply reductions in 2013 too. But it didn't turn out to be true.
Mind = blown
Know what I miss? Actual Mac rumors. Show me a new motherboard or part from a new retina mbp redesign or something.
Know what I miss? Actual Mac rumors. Show me a new motherboard or part from a new retina mbp redesign or something.
Nah. iPhones growth is YOY. It's from getting more people onto a a smartphone and more people from other smartphones to iPhone. So every phone has better sales than the predecessor.
I've had every single iPhone besides the original. The 3GS was the best S model phone and 100% worth upgrading too. Coming from the original you got 3G, video camera, real GPS, much better specs with a lot less checker boarding. iPhone 4 was a good upgrade too: larger screen, nose cancelling mic although you had to hold it the right way. 4S was a disappointment because it was Siri and the specs only mattered after iOS 7 came out. Although it was probably a godsend for people on T-Mobile because of the 4G bands. iPhone 5 was game changing because of the larger screen, LTE and lower weight. 5S was a disappointment because TouchID didn't work right until like 5 software updates later. But again LTE bands were updated. 6 was great again because of the larger screen and ApplePay. 5S is a disappointment because the extra performance isn't usually noticeable and won't be for a few years. However if someone is on T-Mobile the 6S is a godsend because it's got band 12 support.
So it all depends on perspective. From AT&T US POV, I think 4S, 5S, 6S were the worst iPhones. But the increased cellular bands make S models worth purchasing for some users.
I have alot of issues of apps crashing on the 6 plus, did you have similar on your 6 plus ?
Does this still happen on the 6S plus ?
Steve Job's was Apple and only Apple. Bean counter Tim Cook is running Apple like Ballmer ran Microsoft.