Apple to Debut Apple TV With 4K HDR Support at September Event

[DaveOP]

I guess I need to buy 4k HDR TV before I get too excited about this. Does 4k HDR even make a big difference compared to 1080p?

HDR makes a bigger difference than 4k, but I love my 4k HDR set and wouldn't go back to 1080.

I understand the concerns about data caps from another poster, but I have no cable TV, I stream everything, and have not passed 350GB in a month. I suppose, for those that stream 24/7, or have multiple people streaming frequently, it would be a problem.

 

[varunsanthanam]

I guess I need to buy 4k HDR TV before I get too excited about this. Does 4k HDR even make a big difference compared to 1080p?

4K? Seriously noticeably difference, particularly on larger panels (sorta why I don't really get the super HiDPI panels on some android phones).

HDR? Less so, depends a bit more on the content itself, the television, and the source, but it too can be very pronounced.

 

[thinkthis]

UHD is FOUR TIMES the resolution of Full HD.

Wrong.

If you take the resolution of 1920x1080 and you multiply it by 2 (you know, TWICE) then you get 3840x2160. Because it is TWICE the resolution in each direction you get four times as many pixels. Twice the resolution, four times the pixels.

 

[Cougarcat]

I would love it if the price comes down compared to the current models. I think the Apple TV is a good product but the price is a bit too high for what it offers compared to other products. But I won't be surprised at all if they keep their price points.

They'll probably keep the current model around for a cheaper price, but I doubt the 4K model will be any cheaper.

 

[euvnairb]

Yes! Definitely picking one up during black Friday this year! I can relegate my 4th gen ATV to my bedroom.

 

[cmChimera]

PLEASE give me HBO Now in 4k.

 

[alfonsog]

There needs to be real competition between ISP’s in this country before we try to stream 4K...

 

[Ted13]

I never upgraded to the last aTV because of the missing TOSlink and no 4K, so this one I'll definitely get. Will need it for Amazon's new video app, which I'm guessing will come out with it, as well as Apple Music support.

This seems to be a good HDMI (4K) to HDMI (4k)/TOSlink converter: https://www.amazon.com/Tendak-Optical-Extractor-Converter-Splitter/dp/B017B6WFP8 Other suggestions?

 

[mw360]

UHD is FOUR TIMES the resolution of Full HD.

Uh... 4K is 4x the resolution of 1080p, not 2x.

Looks like we have a lot of marketing folks here today.

 

[darkarn]

Will this finally lead to a new Lightning Digital AV adapter that allows 4K too?

One can only hope...

 

[djeeyore25]

Will the reveal be in 4K? That might make things awkward.

 

[iapplelove]

I'm not going to lie, I've never watched anything in 4K. I don't own a blueray player and don't subscribe to cable TV.

My Sony is about 4 years old but not a 4K just 1080p, is 4K that much better?

I mainly just stream YouTube or watch my iTunes content.

 

[ccrunner_tj]

"The new 4K HDR Apple TV - perfect for AirPlaying 4K 60fps video from your iPhone Edition camera!"

Please let this be a line they use at the keynote!

 

[varunsanthanam]

Yes please.

I've actually grown to love the remote of my 4th gen Apple TV. I hated it at first, but now I think it's excellent. The iOS app specifically for the 4th Gen is also much better than Apple's old "Remote" app.

 

[bladerunner2000]

Too late, I already bought an Nvidia Shield TV a long time ago which I'm sure will still make the next Apple TV obsolete on the day it's released.

 

[JGIGS]

They are 400 bucks now. How low do you need them to go?????

Maybe in the USA. In most other countries that get's you a small junk tv at best.

 

[Pbrutto]

Time to get a new ISP. ATT doesn't for me.

Don't quote me (jk) but I think my fios has a 1000 gig monthly cap

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Would love to also see Apple debut something akin to the Amazon or Roku stick or Roku express. An ATV mini of sorts that remains 1080p and comes with the old bare bones remote.

 

[s15119]

Apple Apple Apple

I don't need this. But I'll buy it day one. Just cause.

 

[GadgetBen]

Stop calling it an Apple TV. It's an Apple TV box.

An Apple TV is what it should be. With a flat thin screen as wide as a pencil.

 

[thisisnotmyname]

It will be nice to finally have Apple TV catch up to the displays but I hope there's also more in store with the new generation.

 

[nutmac]

I guess I need to buy 4k HDR TV before I get too excited about this. Does 4k HDR even make a big difference compared to 1080p?

4K, not really for typical video contents.

HDR, yes, almost as dramatic as 480p to 1080p.

 

[Cougarcat]

I'm not going to lie, I've never watched anything in 4K. I don't own a blueray player and don't subscribe to cable TV.

My Sony is about 4 years old but not a 4K just 1080p, is 4K that much better?

I mainly just stream YouTube or watch my iTunes content.

A 4K UHD blu-ray is noticeably better than a 1080p one, but the difference is a LOT less drastic than going from standard to HD. I expect the difference will be similar with streaming. I don't think it's worth it unless you're replacing your TV anyway.

 

[nutmac]

Couldn't care less. 4k is dead to me as long as ISP's have data caps.

In theory, streaming services can use HEVC for non-4K contents also, which will reduce file size by roughly 50%.

 

[thinkthis]

Uh... 4K is 4x the resolution of 1080p, not 2x.

Uh....no.

Think about it. 4k itself is a number that only refers to the number of vertical lines in the image. There are twice as many lines in a 4k image as there are in a 1080p image. It is confusing because 1080p refers to the number of horizontal lines. You have four times as many pixels because twice the resolution in each direction gets you four times the surface area.

Here you go


Here is more on why it is only 2x the resolution:

https://www.redsharknews.com/technology/item/1650-is-4k-twice-or-four-times-as-good-as-hd