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Itll be nice and shiny, you'll have to brush it constantly.

Yes, but it purrs while you brush it.... :D And instead of beach-balling, Safari will cough up a fur-ball when it has a problem.

They're little, bitty kitties...

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(human - 2 months old, Maine coon - 2 years)

more Maine Coons
 
lol. In the end all that matters is the amount of colored in areas there are on the Map in these commercials. I think I'll still go with the carrier with much more coverage...
 
no, actually, as an impartial outsider here, it's more like the fact you (and others) present yourself as someone who sees apple, and all associates of apple, as some infallible company capable only of greatness and puppies and sunshine and unicorns, while at the same time you vilify all those companies that compete against apple, and all people that don't agree with your viewpoint, as completely and utterly wrong in every regard in arguments that utterly boil down to subjective taste. that's why we think you're a wacko cultist or obsessed fanboy or something. just sayin'.

Wrong. Please feel free to peruse my comment history, where you will find a plethora of examples where I criticize Apple. "Infallible" - please. That's you talking, not me.

The "wacko cultist, obsessed fanboy" label is just a lame strawman that people throw out when they have nothing substantive to say. It's so very easy, you see. So "you" (plural - you and the anonymous group you claim to represent) and your "impartial outsider" view (please) may want to check your facts before tossing out the easy stereotypes (particularly since you just barely joined the forum, supposedly (per you) to rant about "fanboyism" (see "lame strawman" above)).

Sparring with the trolls here hardly makes me a blind Apple apologist.
 
You'd go with Bing? Or to the evil empire of Google to give the search monopoly even more information about yourself?

"Tired of evil empires and monopolies? Try Bing. From Microsoft (TM)."

They should use that as a tagline in a TV commercial. :rolleyes:
 
Wrong. Please feel free to peruse my comment history, where you will find a plethora of examples where I criticize Apple. "Infallible" - please. That's you talking, not me.

The "wacko cultist, obsessed fanboy" label is just a lame strawman that people throw out when they have nothing substantive to say. It's so very easy, you see. So "you" (plural - you and the anonymous group you claim to represent) and your "impartial outsider" view (please) may want to check your facts before tossing out the easy stereotypes (particularly since you just barely joined the forum, supposedly (per you) to rant about "fanboyism" (see "lame strawman" above)).

Sparring with the trolls here hardly makes me a blind Apple apologist.

(bold) I find that so difficult to believe. You have to accept the fact that some people are simple obsessed with Apple, or Sony or whatever. I don't mind as long as they keep it in their pants. But it becomes annoying when they start to criticize every single thing that isn't done by their beloved company. It's even worse when people go along spreading FUD that was true in 1999 but isn't anymore.

You and others have some kind of fascination of making fun of any other company that is not Apple.... And what is worse.... some also seem to enjoy making fun of their users. I just don't get it.:confused:
 
lol. In the end all that matters is the amount of colored in areas there are on the Map in these commercials. I think I'll still go with the carrier with much more coverage...

You should look at the coverage where YOU actually are going to use the phone.
 
You and others have some kind of fascination of making fun of any other company that is not Apple.... And what is worse.... some also seem to enjoy making fun of their users. I just don't get it.:confused:

You keep accusing me of saying certain things but you have no evidence of your claims. I'd appreciate it if you would refrain from bogus accusations.

I'm still waiting for you to provide me some quotes of my making hypocritical statements, per your accusation. *crickets*

As for "making fun of any other company that is not Apple," WRONG. Just in the last couple of days I've clearly stated that I very much like Google and Palm, both Apple competitors in the mobile phone space. And I criticize Apple often, as they make plenty of boneheaded plays themselves. My dislike of AT&T, for what it's worth, is also on display for all to see.

I despise Microsoft. Sue me.

P.S. Strawman arguments fail.
 
I agree. I see Verizon as a desperate company trying their best to stop the exodus to AT&T (and T-Mobile who will prob be next). Verizon has made mistake after mistake as far as their strategic decisions.
Cite: http://www.google.com/search?q=AT%26T+mistakes+in+the+past&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a


Name them. AT&T is "bullet-proof"? Let's see they knew the iPhone would take off, knowing full well the network would suffer some serious saturation. Did they care? Hell no, all they saw was dollars and cents.

First, CDMA. This is a dead-end network and technology. They are stuck at 1.4Mb. Just wait until their network is FINALLY tested with a few more DROID phones. Their network will collapse faster than AT&T's. At least with AT&T, they have 3Mb now...and are upgrading to 7Mb this fall...and then followed up with 14Mb.

Dead-end but very stable. Did you forget AT&T mentioned that 30% of dropped calls were "the norm"? Thirty percent of my calls get dropped, and I'd be royally pissed off. If you want to enjoy crappy service, you go right ahead.
Cite: http://www.google.com/search?q=AT%26T+30%25+dropped+calls&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a


Second, Verizon ignored the product of the century (iPhone). What a bunch of bumbling goofs.

Wrong yet again. VZW was approached first, before AT&T. VZW said no because Apple wanted too much control over the product that would have compromised not only the profit margin, but their network wasn't ready and they admitted that.
Cite: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-28-verizon-iphone_x.htm

So, now Verizon is trying to scare their own customers about how bad and evil the AT&T Network is and at the same time, throwing rumors out there suggesting that one day soon, they will have the iPhone.

Sad....desperate....and lame.

Again, AT&T says you can live with 30% dropped calls. I dropped AT&T after only 3 months of service and I switched to VZW - I can fully swear under oath, I've only lost 1% of dropped calls since being a VZW subscriber for the last 4 years running. It seems that you hold your fanboy banner high - you go right ahead and do that and do some fact-checking while you're at it as well.
 
Cite: http://www.google.com/search?q=AT%26T+mistakes+in+the+past&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a


Name them. AT&T is "bullet-proof"? Let's see they knew the iPhone would take off, knowing full well the network would suffer some serious saturation. Did they care? Hell no, all they saw was dollars and cents.



Dead-end but very stable. Did you forget AT&T mentioned that 30% of dropped calls were "the norm"? Thirty percent of my calls get dropped, and I'd be royally pissed off. If you want to enjoy crappy service, you go right ahead.
Cite: http://www.google.com/search?q=AT%26T+30%25+dropped+calls&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:eek:fficial&client=firefox-a




Wrong yet again. VZW was approached first, before AT&T. VZW said no because Apple wanted too much control over the product that would have compromised not only the profit margin, but their network wasn't ready and they admitted that.
Cite: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-01-28-verizon-iphone_x.htm



Again, AT&T says you can live with 30% dropped calls. I dropped AT&T after only 3 months of service and I switched to VZW - I can fully swear under oath, I've only lost 1% of dropped calls since being a VZW subscriber for the last 4 years running. It seems that you hold your fanboy banner high - you go right ahead and do that and do some fact-checking while you're at it as well.

AT&T never said 30 percent dropped call rate was the norm. Neither Apple nor AT&T came out with such statement. That statement came from an Apple Genius in an Apple store in New York. Unless that Apple Genius is the official spokesperson for AT&T, you have no point.
 
Anyone with a phone on the ATT network that's not an iphone? Do you get the same amount of dropped calls? Anyone test this?

On estimation I get at most two dropped calls a month on AT&T with my iPhone. I'm estimating because it doesn't happen very much and it doesn't get on my nerves. My Nokias dropped similar amounts. Other people in the household have Sony-Ericssons and drop slightly more. This is both now, and going back to when they were Cingular. My Nextel phone was considerably less reliable.

I certainly have had annoyances with AT&T and the iPhone, but the call dropping isn't one of them. Then again, I don't live in New York or SF, so.
 
On estimation I get at most two dropped calls a month on AT&T with my iPhone. I'm estimating because it doesn't happen very much and it doesn't get on my nerves. My Nokias dropped similar amounts. Other people in the household have Sony-Ericssons and drop slightly more. This is both now, and going back to when they were Cingular. My Nextel phone was considerably less reliable.

I certainly have had annoyances with AT&T and the iPhone, but the call dropping isn't one of them. Then again, I don't live in New York or SF, so.
My Nextel was consinderably less reliable than my AT&T account has been since getting an iPhone in 2007. I had my Nextel account previously for over six years of mediocore service. My wife switched over frmo Sprint, and hasn't expressed any increase in frustration regarding call quality.

Lately however, we have noticed some truly ODD moments with momentary bad connections (where you can "kind of" hear each other). but, overall, it magically goes away quickly, even though we're both in static locations.

For the most part, we're pretty satisfied with the service, however the phone itself has been nothing short of exceptional... especially as we go house hunting. Zillow has become a veritable MONSTER for its exceptional realtime mapping support. It's almost like Google Maps (complete with tracking) with the exception of there being houses/prices sprayed all around us. Years ago, a friend who was a realtor would whip out his Blackberry and get home prices on a special application he had. I honestly wonder what he thinks of todays consumer-available services. --Services on nice BIG touchscreens with pinch and zoom, realtime GPS tracking, up-to-date info, historical home prices, comparables, and interactive photography. Cruelly seems to undermine his value (although we'd need him to run deeper MLS checks).

~ CB
 
Wrong. Please feel free to peruse my comment history, where you will find a plethora of examples where I criticize Apple. "Infallible" - please. That's you talking, not me.

The "wacko cultist, obsessed fanboy" label is just a lame strawman that people throw out when they have nothing substantive to say. It's so very easy, you see. So "you" (plural - you and the anonymous group you claim to represent) and your "impartial outsider" view (please) may want to check your facts before tossing out the easy stereotypes (particularly since you just barely joined the forum, supposedly (per you) to rant about "fanboyism" (see "lame strawman" above)).

Sparring with the trolls here hardly makes me a blind Apple apologist.

the posts that people like you and goona and ltd make are really all the argument I need :)
 
so i wonder if this means that no version iphone in 2010?
Nope. And no doubt, if Verizon and Apple launch a new iPhone together in 2010, someone will attempt to bring up these commercials and both parties will laugh at them and brush it of with some cleverly pre-canned response already worked out. If Apple's sales continue at their current pace and things are still so very rosey, then NOTHING Verizon has said will be of interest to Apple and Verizon will not have said anything but rosey things when specifically referencing Apple. Pointing out what something else CAN'T do is hardly pulling out knives.

~ CB
 
Screw ads and anything to do with 'marketing'.

They are the very definition of evil.

Yes, I am an engineer :cool:

I find it ironic I can't watch the ad on safari on my iPhone due tonthe lack of flask. The yz flash for my
jailbroken phone probabybshould, but funny that the iPhone won't. Instill think it due to iTunes. Let's see free from tv show websites or $1.99-$2.99

Even a 5 year old knows free is better and ironically too, the five gear old, ok ok, the teen, knows more about proxies and servers then most here. Lol. Peace v
 
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