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Apple to Face Class Action Lawsuit Over Off-the-Clock Employee Bag Checking
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Why did you quote me? What does my post have to do with women or anything you said?
Well my view is to avoid this get a job that doesn't involve retail work with merchandise. Better yet if you are still in school take your education seriously so you don't have to work a job like this. I will state that being 34 I've never worked in any retail environment or in the food service industry. I flat out refused to do so even for a summer job and took having a good career seriously so that I never would.
Congratulations for being part of society that has advantages others don't.
How do you know this? Is this based on who you caught or who you didn't catch? Either way I guess you weren't very good at it then.
As a customer if you are being held for 15 minutes to check your bag then that would be considered being detained, which if you were in the U.S. it is could lead to lawsuits. This is the main reason why many major retailers' loss prevention departments have been downsized or eliminated in the past 10 years. Most big box stores only concern themselves with internal loss now, it is less litigious.
I don't get why they do these bag cheks in front of the customers. Apple employees leave the store walking through the front door? Don't they have a back door?
I'm not sure, but I think in some cases no they don't (I'm just considering the Apple Store's I have walked into). Overall it's not that unusual for retail employees to leave via the main door.
Ridiculous. Not everybody can simply choose where they work, even with a college education. A person could still be starving and out of work with a college education. In fact more people are than not.
Why the need to make it personal? It is common knowledge that in retail, most thefts come internally. That's not to say it happens with Apple employees specifically, but is just an industry statistic. (Here's a link just for the fun of it.)
That being said... bag checks are extremely common and generally very quick. However, having been an Apple Retail Store employee, I've seen managers who choose to make the employee wait several minutes while they "finish a task". I'd say 97% of my bag checks were less then 10 seconds. The rest may have taken a few minutes based on:
- Manager finishing a task or helping a customer
- No manager on the floor at the time
- Multiple employees leaving at the same time
Uh not at the shopping malls. Besides that, it can be suspect for a manager to check an employee at the back door. That's generally off camera. Managers are being watched too.
Definitely. And that attitude will be reciprocated. "If you respect me so little that you think I'm stealing from you... then may be I should steal from you."
Seriously. If an employee wants to steal something, and they know that the managers do bag searches, I can think of so many other ways of doing it. And any competent Loss Prevention professional could think of even more, better ways. If it's small, stuff it into your pants. If it's valuable, pretend to sell it to an accomplice along with some other cheap stuff, but skip scanning the expensive item.
It depends on the mall, and the specific unit within it, but employee/delivery entrances are pretty typical.
Sigh at the few people here that think employees should not have their bags checked at all and that Apple should be stupid and trust them. 
Ok, not at malls but I guess they do at Apple Stores right? Are they at least not doing the bag checking in front of customers at Apple Stores? Why wouldn't you have cameras? Obviously they don't trust their employees.
Wrong it's called being poor growing up and vowing to take control of my own life. Opening the doors for myself and knowing I have to will myself to do better and not limit myself through pity and self loathing.
It's probably done at the store manager's or regional manager's discretion. At a store with low "shrinkage", they hopefully have the good judgment to trust their employees.
Most Apple Stores in the US are located in shopping malls. It's only in the big cities with downtown shopping districts that stand-alone or street-facing locations make sense for Apple.
No company, and I repeat, NO company should trust an employee. That's just complete negligence and idiocy. We're not talking about watching the employees as they go into the bathroom. We're talking about them leaving the store at the end of the day carrying a bag. Employees should be checked. This is a business who pays people to work for them.
Nope being poor myself growing up I learned that opportunity doesn't knock, you create the doors for it yourself. Everyone has a choice where they work and to say otherwise is an excuse to pity yourself. I live in the second poorest state in the U.S., grew up in one of the poorest neighborhoods in that state. It takes fortitude to make it in life and don't expect life to pity your circumstances. Anyone can make it, you just have to use that good given gift of a brain to do it.
I worked at Old Navy for a while and there was a lawsuit against Gap, Inc. for this very same reason. Last year they changed the policy so that we didn't clock out until our bags were checked by the manager. This helped especially with lunch breaks, not having to wait 15 minutes before we could go get food.
Most retail loss is not due to internal theft, but catching/prosecuting internal theft is usually easier and less litigious to the business then external theft. Many big box stores have their cameras' viewing positions that would only record their employees' activities.
But steve23094, that was kinda nasty and pointless.
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