What Tim says:
"The talent here is incredible"
What Tim thinks:
"The wages here are incredibly low"
"The talent here is incredible"
What Tim thinks:
"The wages here are incredibly low"
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Apple to Hire 4,000 Employees in Hyderabad, India to Work on Maps Development
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“Apple is focused on making the best products and services in the world - With 5400rpm physical drives in $1500+ premium desktop computers"
Define "BEST"
Define "BEST"
It used to be best premium computers. Now is glued computers, so you cannot upgrade, hence spending more upfront to future proof or buy sooner, so under TC , best is defined as Best Profit.
And the quality of the work is not the best. I have reviewed a lot of code written in Indian and not that impressed. Many projects for different companies had the same local function names and same variable names. All parties claimed it was their original work.
If you are looking for cutting edged, original development, never go cheap. If you have maintence code or clean up with a well walled description of work, then the cost savings may be worth it.
Then there is the lack of work ethic ...
It's a multinational corporation.
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Who knows what's going on. My sister (who switched to iPhone when I gave her my 5C last September) recently asked me "Why is Apple Maps so rubbish?" I said "Oh, what have you heard?" assuming she'd seen a headline criticising Maps. She said "I tried using it the other day and it just wouldn't work. Everything about this phone seems thought out and really good, accept Maps!"
I think if we get over the hype, forget the stock price, put aside that we all miss Steve Jobs, then it's clear Apple still makes excellent products, but Maps was a big screw up, and one that seems to have taken a long time to correct.
And then saves it in Google HQ as part of a progressively richer profile of who you are, what you like, where you go, and who you know, to be used to sell you things and sold to other people who also want to know these things about you.
Google's entire reason for being is the accumulation of data. Apple's is to build products. Follow the money. Yes, Siri has flaws, but I'll take my privacy over a more convenient feature every time. Especially these days.
I hope the quality control and supervision is top notch. Indian outsourcing can devliver significant benefits, however in personal experience without such QC the results can be an unmittigated disaster. Given the poor start made by Apple Maps this would be the death knell for the app
I think what Tim Cook meant to say is that the talent there is incredible cheap.
iOS has had this exact feature for about 3-4 years now. You can also set up your calendar with where you need to go and in real time it works out when you need to leave your last meeting (and looks at real time traffic conditions) to reach your next meeting on time - it also learns where you usually go, so without putting anything in if I get in the car and glance at my phone it'll figure out i'm usually going to work and tell me current traffic conditions and how long it'll take (same for getting home).
I'm with you on the POI's on Maps though, it only recently got on par with Google Maps in my area and that took really way too long.
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What about when Schmidt of Google was confronted about the fact they don't pay tax in any major countries in the world despite generating revenue there because they move it all around in shady offshore companies (and don't forget its even easy with what they do as 95% of their revenue isn't even a physical product) and he replied with
"The company isn’t about to turn down big savings in taxes", he said.
“It’s called capitalism,” he said. “We are proudly capitalistic. I’m not confused about this."
You're going to struggle to find an ethical tech company, Apple is one of the better ones.
Can't agree more.
Our company sourced out some projects which were already defined from top to ground, we've given them very detailed instructions, just the 'code monkey' work was left.
They couldn't meet any deadlines, all status updates were basically "I don't know" or "soon" and after we've sent 3 employees over to India to supervise, their descriptions of missing professionality were horrifying.
At the end of the day we've saved only about 30% overall compared to very expensive but way better qualified german employees, because nearly everything had to be done twice. Saving 30% wasn't worth the hassle of missing deadlines with our clients, missing communication and having to review their code.
After that debacle we created 40 new jobs inhouse, canceled all pending projects at India and went back to be more efficient and less stressed out.
I can't say which company I work with, but this is sadly accurate to a point. Supervisors have to be on top of this hard. Even that, if you don't get your results...
Making someone else do your work is always a bad choice. If you cant do it yourself, you shouldnt do it.
We've been living in economically global market for decades. Companies pay tax where that money is earned, according to the laws in that country. That is not tax dodging, no more than a company setting up it's "headquarters" in Delaware because of that state's friendly business laws and tax.
I would expect a multi-national company like Apple to have employees around the world. Again, I don't know what is so scandalous about that concept. Do all you people complaining about this also irk you that BMW makes all but one of it's SUV/SAVs in S.C. or that VW has a plant in TN or Kia in GA or Mercedes in AL providing thousands of jobs for people there and related parts suppliers, transport companies, and helps to sustain the local economy in those respective plant's towns?
Get over it. There are no borders in commerce. If you put up barriers then you are going to lose a lot of products that are not naturally available in the U.S. That is not only an inconvenience, but will result in lower employment and a worsening of the economy.
Now whether this is a smart move remains a question. Honestly I do wonder if Apple can't get something as "simple" as Maps right after 3 years (recall Apple chose to ditch Google Maps before it's contract expired) then how does anyone expect them to have a production ready car out by 2020?
I would expect a multi-national company like Apple to have employees around the world. Again, I don't know what is so scandalous about that concept. Do all you people complaining about this also irk you that BMW makes all but one of it's SUV/SAVs in S.C. or that VW has a plant in TN or Kia in GA or Mercedes in AL providing thousands of jobs for people there and related parts suppliers, transport companies, and helps to sustain the local economy in those respective plant's towns?
Get over it. There are no borders in commerce. If you put up barriers then you are going to lose a lot of products that are not naturally available in the U.S. That is not only an inconvenience, but will result in lower employment and a worsening of the economy.
Now whether this is a smart move remains a question. Honestly I do wonder if Apple can't get something as "simple" as Maps right after 3 years (recall Apple chose to ditch Google Maps before it's contract expired) then how does anyone expect them to have a production ready car out by 2020?
I thought people hated leaks because then there were no surprises at the actual event...
More of Apple's sales are oversees than in the USA. They are a multi-national corporation. Why should all the jobs be in the USA? Also there's this whole Campus 2 thing along with all the other real estate Apple is snatching up in the Valley. They would have no reason to be gobbling up all this real estate if they weren't hiring there.
Some comments are hysterical for understandable reasons but yours definitely qualifies for the most stupid comment...
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How did Apple come to be? What did Steve Jobs and Wozniack do in the beginning?
Why should anyone have a six figure salary at all?
I never understood how Apple could "bring jobs back to the US" that never existed here in the first place. Go to jobs.apple.com and you'll see the number of job requisitions inside the US far out weighs those outside the US. If employing 4K engineers in India makes it easier to sell products there then it seems like a no brainier to me. Apple is a multi-national corporation with more sales outside of the US. This idea that all jobs have to be created in the US is absurd. But in the year of Donald Drumpf and Bernie Sanders I guess I shouldn't be surprised at some of the comments here.
Therr must be a whole lot of hate in here to remotely be able to say Google now is better than Siri. On no planet is that close to reality.
I don't think Apple will catch up, maybe they just need to buy somebody again just like the original siri.