Apple to Hire 4,000 Employees in Hyderabad, India to Work on Maps Development

[Chupa Chupa]

How did Apple come to be? What did Steve Jobs and Wozniack do in the beginning?

Why should anyone have a six figure salary at all?

Woz & Jobs used their ingenuity & gumption & created the home computer (industry). They made mult-millions because of there success. Not really a comparable situation of people creating a business & those who must sustain & grow it.

Why do people make 100K+ salaries? Usually because the marketplace says their skills & job responsibilities are worth it. Companies are typically in business to make profit not dole out unwarranted salaries.

 

[Razeus]

I have a Macbook pro, an iPad, an iPhone, a Mac Pro, and with this move, I'm not buying anymore. It was okay with Foxconn, companies have to do that to stay competitive, but Apple is comprised of a bunch of greedy tax dodgers who don't give a damn about our America. I'm done with the rotten Apple.

Not to mention the outright non existent help to catch terrorists. I understand their privacy stance, but there are certain circumstances in which they need to step up and give assistance. After that fiasco, I began moving away from Apple products.

 

[RickInHouston]

How many Indians does it take to unscrew a maps application?

4,000

How many 'jobs' in India must you create in order to sell refurbished apple phones to their population?

4,000.

 

[Kajje]

Some comments are hysterical for understandable reasons but yours definitely qualifies for the most stupid comment...

Peasants! These are university graduates stop being such a privileged nonce. Your talking about a country were top it college places are so competitive their maybe a few hundred applicants competing for a single place. Or is that you consider Indians inferior to you!

Oh come on! Before you accuse me of racism or ignorance please read my previous posts on this forum and see who I am and what I stand for.

But if you truly believe there's 4,000 highly educated geospatial engineers in that area craving for a job, fine, please do so and I'll step back. Who am I to burst your dream bubble. That would make the worlds highest concentrated engineer building and will reconfirm that Apple would never hire vast amounts of low educated individuals to do repetitive and underpaid work at the conveyor belt.

An extra note to johnnyturbouk - perhaps have a look to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasant and see what this term really means, instead of assuming it means what the Jerries used it for in 'Alo Alo'.

 

[MarsViolet]

Why should it? It's a multinational company that probably sells more abroad than in the US. It has no obligation to 'create jobs in America', and all the people like me who buy their products and don't live there don't really give a **** if it creates jobs in the us or in India or in China.

In that case they should move their stupid UFO to the middle of the ocean where they can't take advantage of US infrastructure, fire and police departments, the electrical grid, and military protection.

 

[Plutonius]

4000 Indians is also equivalent to about 3 Silicon Valley salaries.

I have a Macbook pro, an iPad, an iPhone, a Mac Pro, and with this move, I'm not buying anymore. It was okay with Foxconn, companies have to do that to stay competitive, but Apple is comprised of a bunch of greedy tax dodgers who don't give a damn about our America. I'm done with the rotten Apple.

Yep, most companies are outsourcing engineering and software to China and India. Similar to Disney and their IT people.

 

[ForkHandles]

Look at that Apple stock rise again! You may like to complain about the lack of American jobs, you may wish that there was more the tech world could do to excite you. You certainly can't complain about Apple's focus on sales!

Different cultures do business in different ways, India has its own hierarchy and networks, simply opening a shop or two in Mumbai isn't enough to do good business there. However opening up jobs for 4,000 Indian men and women will certainly help improve Apple's relationship with the country, with its leaders and its business men and women, ultimately this will lead to better marketing opportunities.

Well done Tim and co.

 

[mwd25]

Apple has no chance in the map game and their approach to it (better user experience, integration into the OS) was naive to say the least. Geo services need data beyond the base map and it's Google who has this, not Apple. Heck, they're not even able to get the maps themselves right, not to mention businesses, hospitals and other POIs. Their integration of dynamic data (real time traffic, public transport etc.) is virtually non-existent except for a few selected locations, while Google has the will and the resources to cover much more.

Their move to India is understandable - servicing maps is labour intensive and labour is cheap there. Let's hope that they only transfer low-end jobs to India and keep their core competencies in the states.

Apple losing out on getting their hands on Waze........losing out and letting Google scoop it up no less was a major blow. Waze by itself is better then Apple in my opinion but if they could have incorporated them into their maps they would have been competitive. Instead Google bought them, god knows they didnt need Waze but put out the cash just to keep Apple from getting it. Very disappointed Apple didnt do what ever it took to get them

 

[MacDarcy]

Apple should really set an example and open places like this in America instead of China & India. This is proof that trickle down economics do not work. You could give all the tax breaks in the world to big companies, and they'd still move their plants overseas for Cheap labor.

 

[mr.steevo]

After many years, Siri still believes the closest ER to me is a veterinary hospital. If I ask it a different way, it responds with a historic mental health hospital that's now a museum. If another slightly different way, I get an Urgent Care a half our away. There are two actual emergency departments only miles from my home. I've reported this to Apple Maps many times, and it's never fixed.

Google Now and Google Maps are so far ahead of Apple. I use a feature on maps.google.com where I give it a date and time I need to be at a location and it tells me when I'll need to leave the house by based on historical traffic. It's really amazing.

I wish there were a way to set depressing the home button on my iPhone to bring up Google Now rather than Siri and to use Google Maps instead. Apple is just way behind.

Interesting.

I just asked Siri where my nearest hospital is and got directed to an Extended Care Nursing Home.

 

[iwataasks]

How many programmers would it take to fix Apple Music Connect?

20,000?

50?

Just one, but good one.

 

[WWPD]

Yet another American company slowly moving operations overseas. Awesome. If this is as successful as Dell's Indian support center, just imagine how horrible Maps will be in the future. You think it's bad now? Ha!

Our IT Department has to deal with Dell's "support" center all the time, they are absolutely horrible, our Help Desk which is owned by Dell based in Mexico is even worse.

 

[actinide]

They're traitorous RATS and this jobs give away to foreign countries must END. Enough of this. God's sake, we'll all be flipping hamburgers. So if this work is labor intensive set it up in Sonora, CA., Labor rates are less than half of Silicon Valley and 4,000 Americans desperately in need of jobs will be working. Trump has to stop this ****. It's why we're electing him. The only things left in the U.S. from Apple in 10 years will be the G.D. cash registers to ring up their sales. All their jobs will have gone overseas. The damn Traitors! And that's what the are. Good Business decision? ********!

your frustrations are quite understandable . Yet a company needs a positive revenue. And even Drumpf will not change that. Obama and apple CEO(I thought it was Steve Jobs back then) had a discussion related to the outsourcing of labor.
read through this article http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/22/why-apples-products-are-designed-in-california-but-assembled/, then you will understand why most applications are outsourced.

Fact is every company is guilty of such practices. You can not blame apple on this alone. Your beloved Drumpf, believe it or not, also employs cheap labor. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/u...rk-force-for-his-florida-club.html?_r=0...But I am not fooling myself, I can come up with thousand of facts who discredits Drumpf, yet you will still raise the flag for him.

Drumpf is a bigger hypocrite than Leonardo Dicaprio who promised to fly around the world to do good for the environment.

 

[coolfactor]

I have a Macbook pro, an iPad, an iPhone, a Mac Pro, and with this move, I'm not buying anymore. It was okay with Foxconn, companies have to do that to stay competitive, but Apple is comprised of a bunch of greedy tax dodgers who don't give a damn about our America. I'm done with the rotten Apple.

So let's see...

1. Apple is building a multi-billion dollar campus, employing 10's of thousands of construction workers, contractors, truck drivers, crane operators, and many many others.
2. Apple is building massive new data centres, fully powered by renewable energy.
3. Apple is building new stores every month in the US.
4. Apple is building a new call support center in Texas (am I remembering this right?)
5. Apple is making inroads to build devices in the US, such as the Mac Pro, even if the results have been disappointing (gee, I wonder why?)

But you ignore all of that to make your point? So what are you going to do? Buy a Samsung phone from a company that employs far *fewer* in America?

 

[639051]

Apple Maps is a gigantic failure of a product, it is amazing they want to continue to throw good money after bad. Perhaps I don't see their "strategy", but I do see it is a miserable product that only gets in the way for me on iOS. Give me the option to pick my default apps on iOS and I would be a really happy iOS user again.

 

[AFEPPL]

4000 Indians is also equivalent to about 3 Silicon Valley salaries.

And about the same productivity level as 2 valley workers.

 

[jlasoon]

Do you think any other device manufacturer is different?
http://qz.com/403654/google-is-doubling-its-headcount-in-hyderabad-heres-how-to-get-hired-there/

No, but at least these other companies admit they're '******s'

 

[actinide]

No, but at least these other companies admit they're '******s'

Hilarious, there is no company that will ever admit they are ****. Not much of a good PR stunt.
Apple has its flaws, but bashing it for no reason is just hypocrite. Just keep fooling yourself.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Tim instead of hiring people in America, keeps hiring people oversees. Then he says he wants to do the right thing. Tell indian people to buy your crappy phones then. Tim needs to be replaced, he is a cancer.

Not a well thought out comment.

Ever heard of market presence?

Say you sell in the American market. You have to have a presence here, customer service, administrative, warehouses etc.etc., whatever makes sense. Should speak English and have some smarts.
Say you sell in China, you have to have a presence there, language, warehouses, stores, offices.
Say you sell (or want to start to sell in India, Africa, Europe, everywhere you go you need a support staff of the culture in that market.

What makes you think Americans could do customer support in Chinese, Japanese, Indian. (Don't mention the few who speak dual language here. Very few Americans want to learn another language)

Then there are time zone issues and logistic issues of where products are made. Shipping within China, to Japan, India makes more sense and is cheaper than boating or flying stuff from USA to Far East.

Just ask yourself if you were to start a business in Germany or start selling your products in Germany, would you hire all Americans?
Hint: Duh!

 

[jlasoon]

Why should it? It's a multinational company that probably sells more abroad than in the US. It has no obligation to 'create jobs in America', and all the people like me who buy their products and don't live there don't really give a **** if it creates jobs in the us or in India or in China.

LOL - spoken like a true narcissist. Screw modern day 'Neo-Slavary' - "I want my gadget & I want it now! And as cheap as possible too. Screw you American worker peon"

 

[loekf]

4000 Indians is also equivalent to about 3 Silicon Valley salaries.

No, no !!!!!

4000 Indians = 1000 project managers, 2000 quality assurance guys and roughly 500 senior managers. So in reality only 500 people do the real work.

At least that was my experience a couple of years ago when we worked with colleagues in India. Lots of overhead, in practice you get the same amount of real hard working people as over here for the same costs.
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In other words, Apple needs a much cheaper way to get Maps up to par, but it's still behind the competition after 4 years+.

Same thing will happen in four years from now, when Apple has to step up "natural language processing" so that I can control my coffee maker by talking to Siri.

HomeKit = failure.

Apple let it happen that they are overtaken by Google and Amazon.

 

[shaunp]

After many years, Siri still believes the closest ER to me is a veterinary hospital. If I ask it a different way, it responds with a historic mental health hospital that's now a museum. If another slightly different way, I get an Urgent Care a half our away. There are two actual emergency departments only miles from my home. I've reported this to Apple Maps many times, and it's never fixed.

Google Now and Google Maps are so far ahead of Apple. I use a feature on maps.google.com where I give it a date and time I need to be at a location and it tells me when I'll need to leave the house by based on historical traffic. It's really amazing.

I wish there were a way to set depressing the home button on my iPhone to bring up Google Now rather than Siri and to use Google Maps instead. Apple is just way behind.

There is a way, get a Nexus phone ...

 

[jlasoon]

Hilarious, there is no company that will ever admit they are ****. Not much of a good PR stunt.
Apple has its flaws, but bashing it for no reason is just hypocrite. Just keep fooling yourself.

Are you telling me Samsung cares about their reputation? Or LG? Or Xaomi? The only things these companies care about is selling a product. Apple is no different.

There's nothing green, friendly, moral or ethical about Apple. Unless of course you consider soldered batteries and ram as planet friendly.

 

[Thunderhawks]

What the heck is wrong with people? You do realize that we do live in a world economy now and like it or not, not everything can done in the US. Apple is not alone here... almost every high-tech company out there is using different markets to help expand their development or manufacturing.

Sure, I'd LOVE for Apple to bring more manufacturing home, but you do realize the biggest barrier to doing this is our own stupid government. Get pissed at Washington and not Cupertino. Same holds true for the tax thing... EVERY company does what they can to legally avoid taxes. It's complex and it's a PIA. But you can't blame them for doing all they can to retain their revenue. I'm sure YOU do all you can to take every tax deduction you can and manipulate your income through IRA's and other things to help avoid paying taxes... I know I do... why would you not???

So, dump your MacBook and go buy a Surface that is assembled in China and parts developed by Microsoft employees in India. Same freaking thing.

Too many keyboard assassins here without global knowledge and a FOX news mentality.
Doing business in USA is extremely difficult. Try to build a factory. Between the environmental reviews, building codes, unions, employment taxes etc.etc. I am amazed companies still build here.

They do not want to understand that not everybody can have a job. If we were able to bring ALL jobs to USA there would not be enough qualified people.
Add the permanently jobless (their own doing) and work shy crowd and other lackies and it just doesn't work.

 

[AsherN]

Do you have to go to the ER that frequently that it is a problem!?!?!

lol. But asking those kinds of navigation questions in your area is a good predictor for what happens when you are somewhere else.

I live on a 2 way street. Out of my driveway, go right, less than 500' is a major intersection. Google Maps and Waze get it. Apple Maps sends me to the left, 1/4 mile, one street down, then back to the major street. That's my acid test of mapping software. How does it route me in areas I know. And Apple Maps fails miserably. I'm not about to trust it in unknown areas.