Indeed, I agree that for the most part common sense is long gone. The human race is replete with morons.
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Apple to Host 'Secretive' Vision Pro Training Event for Retail Staff
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Interestingly, although this device may be large and bulky, it seems to have good sensitivity to real-time reactions and controls.
avocado makes me nauseous (as do some of these posts), but to each their own!
do, buy and prioritize whatever you want.
It sounds like Vision Pro will require some time and attention to demo. How do they weed out the serious potential buyers from all the curiosity seekers?
So many people ridiculing the device, yet know little or nothing about AR and how it's used.
Maybe they'll require a credit check before you get to wear the demo model. /s
I DON'T see this item selling very well at all especially in a recession which they predict will start 1st quarter of 2024.
people are gonna concentrate on important stuff like rent, mortgage , food, utilities, gas.
not playing around in the virtual world for $3500 plus.
people are gonna concentrate on important stuff like rent, mortgage , food, utilities, gas.
not playing around in the virtual world for $3500 plus.
This. It’s Tim Cook’s last hurrah. His baby.
And that’s why apple is already looking at making a MUCH more affordable version. This stinks of the gold first gen Apple Watch.
The $3500 price tag just isn’t gonna fly. When it costs a months mortgage on a $750,000 home it’s gonna be a bad time.
$69.99* comes with twenty seven step instructions on how to clean it. And it will be on a 3” square accordion fold out slip.
I'm the curiosity seeker and what you have to keep in mind is, I could be a potential buyer.
AVP launches in the US first. It has a complicated setup process in store for customers. The US has 272 Apple Stores.
If AVP launches late March, they have some 270 days to sell the headset in 2024.
If each store sells one headset per hour, maybe hour and a half – lets say 6 units a day – Apple would sell 6 x 272 x 270 = 440,640 units at Apple Stores in the first year.
I doubt each store will sell 6 units a day. Throw in online sales, and I'm starting to see where Apple's projection of first year sales comes from...
If AVP launches late March, they have some 270 days to sell the headset in 2024.
If each store sells one headset per hour, maybe hour and a half – lets say 6 units a day – Apple would sell 6 x 272 x 270 = 440,640 units at Apple Stores in the first year.
I doubt each store will sell 6 units a day. Throw in online sales, and I'm starting to see where Apple's projection of first year sales comes from...
My guestimate is that Apple will sell 50,000 - 100,000 units in 2024, if AVP is ready for prime time in Q1/Q2.
That doesn’t make sense, by that logic, of judging it just by how someone looks wearing it, every VR headset on the market would be a train-wreck…and that’s not the case, that’s just the current state of VR
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
My supersized desktop computer screen is 40" ultra-wide. All of that available screen R.E. is very productive for my work.
Unfortunately, it's hard to carry that on the plane and then set up above the tray table to get some work done on those long flights. I doubt the person(s) next to me would appreciate the intrusion into their space either. It's also hard to successfully transport to the various hotels, etc to set up there to get some work done.
And- while not quite as hard- it's a significant productivity downer to try to get the same work done on a relatively-tiny 16" laptop screen... and best I know, nobody is making 40" ultra-wide laptops... or maybe dual monitor 40" ultra-wide laptops. And even if they were (there are some physical screen folding monstrosities)...
...I wouldn't want to carry all that bulk and weight around everywhere... so I could have "more screen" when I want it.
Like most with ASD with a stand option, I paid towards $2K for a big desktop screen that will probably forever sit in a single spot for life of device. I look at Vpro as a relatively light weight, MOBILE version of the same... a stand-in for the laptop lid that delivers a gigantic screen in high resolution instead of using the (up to) 16" physical screen. And if something makes me want a 60" ultra-wide or two 40" ultra-wides stacked one atop the other, Vpro may have that built in too... at the SAME weight & bulk. If that costs $1500 more, that doesn't seem like such an insane amount of money to me.
How much is a minimum specced 16" MBpro again? So spend $1K more and also have a 17" MBpro... and a 20" MBpro... and a 24"... and a 27".... and a 30", 32", 40", 50", 60", dual screen, quad screen, etc. How much are people expecting to pay for a 30"-32" iMac Pro? There could be one in Vpro... or two of them... along with an iMac ultra-wide and an iMac 50", etc.
"Think different"
Unfortunately, it's hard to carry that on the plane and then set up above the tray table to get some work done on those long flights. I doubt the person(s) next to me would appreciate the intrusion into their space either. It's also hard to successfully transport to the various hotels, etc to set up there to get some work done.
And- while not quite as hard- it's a significant productivity downer to try to get the same work done on a relatively-tiny 16" laptop screen... and best I know, nobody is making 40" ultra-wide laptops... or maybe dual monitor 40" ultra-wide laptops. And even if they were (there are some physical screen folding monstrosities)...
...I wouldn't want to carry all that bulk and weight around everywhere... so I could have "more screen" when I want it.
Like most with ASD with a stand option, I paid towards $2K for a big desktop screen that will probably forever sit in a single spot for life of device. I look at Vpro as a relatively light weight, MOBILE version of the same... a stand-in for the laptop lid that delivers a gigantic screen in high resolution instead of using the (up to) 16" physical screen. And if something makes me want a 60" ultra-wide or two 40" ultra-wides stacked one atop the other, Vpro may have that built in too... at the SAME weight & bulk. If that costs $1500 more, that doesn't seem like such an insane amount of money to me.
How much is a minimum specced 16" MBpro again? So spend $1K more and also have a 17" MBpro... and a 20" MBpro... and a 24"... and a 27".... and a 30", 32", 40", 50", 60", dual screen, quad screen, etc. How much are people expecting to pay for a 30"-32" iMac Pro? There could be one in Vpro... or two of them... along with an iMac ultra-wide and an iMac 50", etc.
"Think different"
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Yup... Still waiting for the feature to copy texts from photos over here.
You forgot the word if, tim wishes hard that 1 percent of current customers would buy the vision pro. That would be a sweet dream.
What part of Europe are you in? We’ve (Ireland) had that feature since it was first released and I’ve used it many times.
Really? I've been using it here in the UK for quite a while.
Is this not a universally available feature?
It's certainly been one of the most helpful additions to iOS for me. Aging eyes and all that.
If only it could run the same apps as a MacBook Pro. I'm even expecting the initial apps apps to be more restricted / less developed than their iPadOS counterparts.My supersized desktop computer screen is 40" ultra-wide. All of that available screen R.E. is very productive for my work.
Unfortunately, it's hard to carry that on the plane and then set up above the tray table to get some work done on those long flights. I doubt the person(s) next to me would appreciate the intrusion into their space either. It's also hard to successfully transport to the various hotels, etc to set up there to get some work done.
And- while not quite as hard- it's a significant productivity downer to try to get the same work done on a relatively-tiny 16" laptop screen... and best I know, nobody is making 40" ultra-wide laptops... or maybe dual monitor 40" ultra-wide laptops. And even if they were (there are some physical screen folding monstrosities)...
...I wouldn't want to carry all that bulk and weight around everywhere... so I could have "more screen" when I want it.
Like most with ASD with a stand option, I paid towards $2K for a big desktop screen that will probably forever sit in a single spot for life of device. I look at Vpro as a relatively light weight, MOBILE version of the same... a stand-in for the laptop lid that delivers a gigantic screen in high resolution instead of using the (up to) 16" physical screen. And if something makes me want a 60" ultra-wide or two 40" ultra-wides stacked one atop the other, Vpro may have that built in too... at the SAME weight & bulk. If that costs $1500 more, that doesn't seem like such an insane amount of money to me.
How much is a minimum specced 16" MBpro again? So spend $1K more and also have a 17" MBpro... and a 20" MBpro... and a 24"... and a 27".... and a 30", 32", 40", 50", 60", dual screen, quad screen, etc. How much are people expecting to pay for a 30"-32" iMac Pro? There could be one in Vpro... or two of them... along with an iMac ultra-wide and an iMac 50", etc.
"Think different"
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Me too based upon what we know so far. Whether it can step beyond some variation of iPad-level of app native is TBD.
However, at least for my purposes, I'm assuming pairings. For my concept of "super-sized" laptop screen, I'm assuming there's also a MB in that same bag. I even have the idea that maybe it is a lid-less laptop (Amiga 500 or Commodore 64 style), which exist in hacks in which the lid has been removed, leaving only the bottom half...
Those connect to desktop monitors and function just fine. So maybe those connect to Vpro and function just fine? Also TBD.
Or maybe "iPad for your face" is only what has been shared so far and it is- in fact- capable of running Mac apps with a simple bluetooth keyboard + trackpad/mouse? Also TBD.
Whatever. I already have the sunk cost in a few MBs laying around here. Perhaps one of them gets new life as the Mac half of a Vpro virtual MB with an any-size screen(s)? TBD.
I look forward to demos and more information to much more fully understand what this can and cannot do. As is, the "half full" and "half empty" crowds... along with extremist fans and extremist pessimists are simply projecting their own biases into imagining the best or worst (with a few somewhere between those extremes). The reality of it being in stores and in hands will thoroughly cull the vapor and refine the imagination potentials- good and bad- into whatever it ACTUALLY can deliver.
However, at least for my purposes, I'm assuming pairings. For my concept of "super-sized" laptop screen, I'm assuming there's also a MB in that same bag. I even have the idea that maybe it is a lid-less laptop (Amiga 500 or Commodore 64 style), which exist in hacks in which the lid has been removed, leaving only the bottom half...
Those connect to desktop monitors and function just fine. So maybe those connect to Vpro and function just fine? Also TBD.
Or maybe "iPad for your face" is only what has been shared so far and it is- in fact- capable of running Mac apps with a simple bluetooth keyboard + trackpad/mouse? Also TBD.
Whatever. I already have the sunk cost in a few MBs laying around here. Perhaps one of them gets new life as the Mac half of a Vpro virtual MB with an any-size screen(s)? TBD.
I look forward to demos and more information to much more fully understand what this can and cannot do. As is, the "half full" and "half empty" crowds... along with extremist fans and extremist pessimists are simply projecting their own biases into imagining the best or worst (with a few somewhere between those extremes). The reality of it being in stores and in hands will thoroughly cull the vapor and refine the imagination potentials- good and bad- into whatever it ACTUALLY can deliver.
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