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My exact thoughts (and no doubt many of you). Jobs will present Leopard himself for sure yet they need it in time for NAB one has to think and he won't do it there, it's not his MO. That seems to point to a 'Steve Special' prior to NAB.

Considering the list of bugs shown for Leopard at AI today, I don't think we'll see any traces of the new OS until June...but yeah, I still want my 12" MBP...:rolleyes:
 
Considering the list of bugs shown for Leopard at AI today, I don't think we'll see any traces of the new OS until June...but yeah, I still want my 12" MBP...:rolleyes:

I wonder then if MacPro's will be then announce at WWDC.
Somebody can correct me but I am pretty sure the octo-cores MacPro need Leopard to take full advantage of multi-processors.
In other hand I think the MBP doesn't need it, so it may make sense to see it at NAB alongside Final Cut Studio.
 
FCP 4's minimum OS requirement was 10.2.8. FCP 5's minimum is 10.3.9. FCP 6 will likely run on 10.4.9.

Final Cut Studio requires OS X 10.4.4 or later...

I give the next FCStudio package a 5% chance of running on Tiger, maybe less... It will need Leopard's new features to run. It is not unheard of. It is a pro app and they know that pro's will upgrade the OS just to run the software. It really isn't a big expense for them.

It will be all FCStudio and Octo Mac Pro's at this thing, anyone thinking there will be portables is delusional unless intel somehow releases Santa Rosa before May/June.
 
Final Cut Studio requires OS X 10.4.4 or later...

I give the next FCStudio package a 5% chance of running on Tiger, maybe less... It will need Leopard's new features to run. It is not unheard of. It is a pro app and they know that pro's will upgrade the OS just to run the software. It really isn't a big expense for them.

I really hate it when OS upgrades and big software upgrades go hand-in-hand. Is it an OS problem? Is it a Final Cut problem? If that's the case I see most pro's holding out until both programs have been out at least 6 months before testing the waters.


Lethal
 
I really hate it when OS upgrades and big software upgrades go hand-in-hand. Is it an OS problem? Is it a Final Cut problem? If that's the case I see most pro's holding out until both programs have been out at least 6 months before testing the waters.


Lethal

Well it's the OS, Leopard is going include a lot of Core frameworks that will enhance software but only allow it to work on Leopard. For example Core animation will allow much easier and intuitive user interfaces. Core Audio and Core Data have been changed, receiving major enhancements in Leopard.
 
Leopard Premiere Could Even Happen After NAB

This is the real elephant in the bushes: The logic of all the rumors hinges on Leopard, and the Leopard rumors are still far from clear. I would GUESS that Leopard would come first, as it's big enough for its own press, but it could come at the same time...and it's really unlikely to come afterwards, cuz the new toys at NAB will count on it to be at their most impressive.
It's not inconceivable for Apple to unveil beta of all the software as well as the 8 core Mac Pro with the promise to ship all of what they reveal at the April 15th event in May or June. Wouldn't be the first time they pre-announced product(s) before it was quite ready for shipping due to the timing of the trade show vs. their completing all the tweaks they feel they need to before cranking up the assembly lines.

My thoughts are not so much that what they show will be shipping immediately but that it will be shipping eventually - as in by sometime in June worst case. They might say "taking orders beginning today, shipping by end of May." or "Shipping when Leopard ships later this Spring." without saying a specific date. I think the Leopard shipping date announcement pitch event will not be at NAB but at San Francisco Moscone at some other date before or after NAB.

I don't think this event tells us much about when Leopard will ship or even when the Leopard event will happen. :( :confused:
 
Final Cut Studio requires OS X 10.4.4 or later...
Umm, yeah, but the question I was addressing was FCP. :)

(snip)...It is a pro app and they know that pro's will upgrade the OS just to run the software. It really isn't a big expense for them.
Pros aren't necessarily concerned about the expense of upgrading the OS (at maybe $129) or upgrading the SW (at maybe $300 or $500).

They're concerned about stability of the product in a production environment.

Only over-enthusiastic prosumers (or dedicated testers) will attempt using a dot-zero pro software suite on a dot-zero OS release. The dot-zero releases of FCP 3, 4 and 5 were unsuitable for production. Subsequent bugfix patches made those usable.

FCP 6 will run on 10.4.9 but without the bells and whistles that Leopard brings, if history is any guide.
 
Apple sent out invitations to educators, claiming "many potential releases and announcements." Sadly, education is such a wide market, there's probably nothing we can read into :)
 
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