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Apple to Introduce Light Peak (High Speed Connection Technology) Soon?
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This is probably the only viable reason to include Light Peak on a future Mac. It would only serve as a wire-thin, high-speed bus between your MacBook and a desktop display (and carry the video/audio out also). The display would then contain USB2/USB3 and ethernet connections to which you would attach your standard peripherals.
This would be a completely Apple-centric solution, with no need to wait for or even expect third-parties to create Light Peak compatible devices.
If the LP ports are USB2.0/3.0 compatible I can really see apple doing this as soon as possible. It just really simplifies things.
AND solid state harddrive? Liquid Metal? More Air like design? One can dream!
Edit: Actually light peak may be needed to shrink down the size of the MacBook Pro to a more Air like design.. if you look it, the ports on the current MacBook Pro take up all the space that is there, an Ethernet port is huge.
AND solid state harddrive? Liquid Metal? More Air like design? One can dream!
Edit: Actually light peak may be needed to shrink down the size of the MacBook Pro to a more Air like design.. if you look it, the ports on the current MacBook Pro take up all the space that is there, an Ethernet port is huge.
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There was an article on here a while back about apple experimenting with a different place to put there ports like for example, in the magsafe power adapter.
has anyone ever stopped to consider that apple is gonna re-design there magsafe power adapter to include usb, ethernet, firewire, and what ever other ports normally come on it.
so that way MBA and MBP;s only have one port on them, the magsafe port. in that patent article mentions how apple wants to eliminate the wire clutter.
i think apple will build the adaptors directly into the magsafe power adapter.
making the computer lighter, slimmer, and more astheticly pleasing. this will also mean that all of apples computers will have access to all the ports. whether its the mba or mbp and maybe even the Ipad's too.
has anyone ever stopped to consider that apple is gonna re-design there magsafe power adapter to include usb, ethernet, firewire, and what ever other ports normally come on it.
so that way MBA and MBP;s only have one port on them, the magsafe port. in that patent article mentions how apple wants to eliminate the wire clutter.
i think apple will build the adaptors directly into the magsafe power adapter.
making the computer lighter, slimmer, and more astheticly pleasing. this will also mean that all of apples computers will have access to all the ports. whether its the mba or mbp and maybe even the Ipad's too.
uhh eliminating all ports on the actual computer is ridiculous. how would mobile users attach peripherals?
I'm dreaming right with you there buddy - love the Black Aluminum look as well. If announced end of this month I'll have the cash for end of March for a 13" to replace my Al_uMB 2.4Ghz which will goto my wife. Common Apple give me something to work towards overtime for!! Please!
What I find most interesting is that it looks like they are using a modified USB connector.
So one jack on the computer for USB and lightpeak.
BTW, I thought this was a Apple idea that they gave to Intel to develop into a full product. It'll come full circle when apple adopts it.
And the next question is will we see iOS devices with it as well?
So one jack on the computer for USB and lightpeak.
BTW, I thought this was a Apple idea that they gave to Intel to develop into a full product. It'll come full circle when apple adopts it.
And the next question is will we see iOS devices with it as well?
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Yes this iTech is supposed to supersede all types of cables so it will be quite interesting if it rolls from here forth to every device including iPad 2/3.
Yes this iTech is supposed to supersede all types of cables so it will be quite interesting if it rolls from here forth to every device including iPad 2/3.
Looks good...I actually like that mock up....Though I'd reckon Apple would only use only two light peak ports for the 15".
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You are mistaken.
Intel has said from the beginning that Light Peak will supply power.
USB 3.0 is not backward compatible, is not fine, and while maybe fast enough for yesterday, it is definitely not fast enough for tomorrow.
More importantly, USB 3 has not yet taken hold and now is the time to switch the market to a new standard with real potential for the future, not a mediocre half effort like USB 3 that will be obsolete by the time it is adopted.
Hopefully Apple will do Light Peak right and rev all their products (from iPod shuffles to Mac Pro's) to Light Peak in one step instead of dribbling it out for years like FireWire, FW800, & the still missing FW3200. If they do, USB 3 will be instantly irrelevant and consumers will win.
Vitruviux said:
You are mistaken.
Intel has said from the beginning that Light Peak will supply power.
USB 3.0 is not backward compatible, is not fine, and while maybe fast enough for yesterday, it is definitely not fast enough for tomorrow.
More importantly, USB 3 has not yet taken hold and now is the time to switch the market to a new standard with real potential for the future, not a mediocre half effort like USB 3 that will be obsolete by the time it is adopted.
Hopefully Apple will do Light Peak right and rev all their products (from iPod shuffles to Mac Pro's) to Light Peak in one step instead of dribbling it out for years like FireWire, FW800, & the still missing FW3200. If they do, USB 3 will be instantly irrelevant and consumers will win.
I find it amusing
that people speculate about what Apple is going to do with LightPeak in light of the fact that they have nothing to do with the development of this technology. Intel is developing LightPeak. I would imagine that primary stakeholders here will be Intel (bus architecture, chip sets) and periphery device manufacturers. Apple does not contribute anything to this. Lately they were mostly concentrating on computer cases designs (could anyone name any piece of tech developed by Apple after FireWire?)
that people speculate about what Apple is going to do with LightPeak in light of the fact that they have nothing to do with the development of this technology. Intel is developing LightPeak. I would imagine that primary stakeholders here will be Intel (bus architecture, chip sets) and periphery device manufacturers. Apple does not contribute anything to this. Lately they were mostly concentrating on computer cases designs (could anyone name any piece of tech developed by Apple after FireWire?)
Cable manufactures rejoice! If this is true and I buy a new macbook pro then I got to buy a cable that works with my externals just like the FW 800 to 400 from about 2 years ago. All for nothing, because my externals will not be able to keep up with the changes. Apple can't make a laptop thinner by adding an extra port can they?
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No, letting USB survive into a new generatio would be screwing consumers. For high speed data it has always been a second rate solution. USB 1.0 was a nice solution for replacing multiple low speed connections, but it should have ended there. USB 3.0 does not yet have significant adoption. Light Peak is superior in every possible way and if Apple & Intel move quickly and aggressively, they can ensure that it becomes the dominant standard of the next generation and USB goes away.
And for those of you that just have to hang on to the past, note that Light Peak can emulate USB.
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No, letting USB survive into a new generatio would be screwing consumers. For high speed data it has always been a second rate solution. USB 1.0 was a nice solution for replacing multiple low speed connections, but it should have ended there. USB 3.0 does not yet have significant adoption. Light Peak is superior in every possible way and if Apple & Intel move quickly and aggressively, they can ensure that it becomes the dominant standard of the next generation and USB goes away.
And for those of you that just have to hang on to the past, note that Light Peak can emulate USB.
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You are getting heat because your original post is irrelevant and illogical.
There is no reason to assume that adoption of a new wired standard precludes adoption of new wireless standards. Technology is no where close to the point at which all wired data connections can be replaced with wireless. In fact, there is no reason to assume that will ever be the case. Would it really make sense to have a set top box sitting on top of a TV in every room of every house wirelessly transmitting 2160p 120fps 3D TV and 5 channel surround sound to the TV 24 hours a day when a two foot cable would do the job just fine? There isn't that much bandwidth in the world.
There are plenty of application for which wired connections will always be a better choice than wireless and for those applications it is time for the next advance in wired technology. To think otherwise is just being silly.
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You are getting heat because your original post is irrelevant and illogical.
There is no reason to assume that adoption of a new wired standard precludes adoption of new wireless standards. Technology is no where close to the point at which all wired data connections can be replaced with wireless. In fact, there is no reason to assume that will ever be the case. Would it really make sense to have a set top box sitting on top of a TV in every room of every house wirelessly transmitting 2160p 120fps 3D TV and 5 channel surround sound to the TV 24 hours a day when a two foot cable would do the job just fine? There isn't that much bandwidth in the world.
There are plenty of application for which wired connections will always be a better choice than wireless and for those applications it is time for the next advance in wired technology. To think otherwise is just being silly.
Most adapters are awkward (especially "universals") and have enough problems staying connected:
Now they want to add magsafe so that it breaks by design... Is Light Peak a sly plan to drive people to wireless?