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If true then the MBP will become the iPod Classic of Macs -- sold as long as they sell but a red-headed stepchild to the R&D dept. Fine w/ me as long as whatever suceeds it is equivalent from a proc and graphics perspective. I see the new 15" so-called MB will offer NVidia graphics so that's the right direction. I'm loath to see everything w/o Intel graphics. Bleech.
 
seems like kind of a silly move on apple's part. The only visible differences are:
-form factor
-integrated graphics rather than independent (in the 13")
-no optical drive
-retina display
I plan on replacing my 13" 2008 MacBook in the next week, and I'm torn here. I'd like to buy this new product in the 13" but my concern is memory, I would like this to have at least 4Gb built in (I assume it will) expandable to 16Gb to match the MacBook Pro's capabilities. however if this does happen there will be nearly no reason (rather than the optical drive) to buy the MBP at this point. Additionally, there are now rumors that they will merge these two lines NEXT YEAR, why not just take the MBP make it slimmer and take out the optical drive and stick in a retina display. This just seems like such a non-Apple thing for Apple to do.
 
I always felt that MacBook Pro didn't sound right. I much preferred PowerBook.

In any case, I don't see Apple making a new product line and keeping the Pro. Could happen, but, seems unlikely to me for some reason.
 
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This kind of makes sense, they might introduce a mid range more portable laptop with better battery, pro power and less weight. I for one would prefer pro power minus the drive.
 
Why not drop the pro and air, have 4 laptops called MacBook 11,13,15 & 17. All of them have no DVD drive or HDD allowing for a slim design. Specs 11inch model: Retina display, 2 USB 3.0 ports, thundebolt port, i7 undervolted ivy bridge, 128GB+ SSD & 4GB+ ram. 13 inch model: Retina display, 2 USB 3.0 ports, thundebolt port, i5 quad core ivy bridge,SD card reader, ethernet port, FireWire, 128GB+ SSD & 4GB+ ram. 15 inch model: Retina display, 2 USB 3.0 ports, thundebolt port, i7 quad core ivy bridge, 128GB+ SSD & 8GB+ ram. 17 inch model: Retina display, 2 USB 3.0 ports, thundebolt port, i7 quad core ivy bridge, 128GB+ SSD & 8GB+ ram. Also 1080p iSight camera, Bluetooth 4.0, backlit keyboard and maybe even 802.11ac standard across range. Price $999 and up! If apple does this they can take over the world who agrees with me?

I don't agree. If you completely take away the HDD, you lose a lot of people. SSDs have come down in price quite a bit, but they're still prohibitively expensive in the sizes that a lot of people need. And with protable computers, people don't want to have to carry around external drives. If you go to a slimmer model, is the RAM still user upgradable? If not, you lose a bunch more people because a huge number of people nowdays need more than 4GB of RAM, and paying Apple for it costs a fortune.
 
I always thought it would make the most sense to shift to having only an 11" Air, 13" MacBook (Air-Pro hybrid of sorts), and a 15" MacBook Pro. Streamline the offerings.
 
Hm maybe the difference isnt just the Optical drive, but ethernet and firewire as well...

THis gets my vote. Some people are really passionate about having these inside their pro and it might make short term business sense for Apple (i.e margins are so good they'll trade off customer confusion).

IF this is true, this might be the difference between Jobs and Cook - Jobs would kill a dying line vs. milking it until it is full cannibalized. Though again, in the last year Apple has been selling old lines beside new in their ipods, phones and tablets.
 
I think the 'third line' would be something like those leaked MBP specs, a lower priced alternative to the retina models, using the same form factor as now and a few modest improvements. Especially if they are phasing out the 13"MBP, it would make sense to give it a final run as an alternative for people who aren't ready to make the switch to 15" or an Air just yet. It would cut down on people's whining about the price hike and pave the way for a simpler line-up next year.
 
99% of the articles on MacRumors are wrong or speculation or conjecture. But they keep me coming back!
 
That has always been a myth by most accounts. How many different iPod nano and shuffle color and memory choices are there? (14 nano and 5 shuffle) How many different iPad configurations are there (18 not including the iPad 2)?

I'd say they like to keep the choices simple. How much storage space and what colour are simple choices, even if there are many of them. I do think their iPad choices may be overwhelming to some though.
 
We will know for sure in a couple days but if they do drop the 17 inch mbp, I dont see the logic in keeping the 13 mbp even though its sales are good but so was the white 13 macbook but they drop that because there was only minimal diffrence between mb and mbp. I cant see why someone would want a 13 mbp over the 13 coming out.
 
Maybe the difference is in price.
The MBHDhas similar power as MBP but 1. Thinner and 2. Cost $500 more

We will see if he is right soon
 
The iToyz lovers are going to be unhappy. They hate choices, it confuses them.

Choices is not what the new mass market focused Apple is all about.

Someone at the top needs to decide what it's going to be.

Choices or no choices :eek:
 
Doesn't make sense. Just release thinner, retina-displays 13, 15 and 17 in. Macbook Pro's this coming Monday please Apple! (with same price) lol
 
I don't know...I mean, they can't go around just slapping "the new" as a prefix to products. It will look stupid.

That begs the question of refurbs and selling on eBay.

For Sale: a used new iPad.

"What did you end up getting?"
"Oh I waited and got a refurbished new MacBook."

"Welcome to WWDC 2013, today we've got some great products to announce, for starters there is the new new MacBook, which we will be calling the new² MacBook, just like our recently released new² iPad."
 
We know it's a lie because the 13 MBP is listed as having dedicated nVidia graphics. Apple would NEVER do that. right? :)

In the diagram it's listed as an 'intel integrated graphics'. Not sure where you seem them saying the 13" would have a discrete chip.
 
That begs the question of refurbs and selling on eBay.

For Sale: a used new iPad.

"What did you end up getting?"
"Oh I waited and got a refurbished new MacBook."

"Welcome to WWDC 2013, today we've got some great products to announce, for starters there is the new new MacBook, which we will be calling the new² MacBook, just like our recently released new² iPad."

I know you're just being funny, but past models will simply be referred to by their model year or generation number, for example: "iPad (2012)" or "iPad (third generation)". The new iPad will always be the newest iPad.
 
It's seem reasonable.

11 MBA = $999
13 MBA = $1299

13 MBP = $1199
15 MBP = $1799

15 MBX = $2499
15 MBX = $3199
 
Nobody will buy the Air or the Pro if this "retina" notebook will come in August...

I might.

Frankly, it's not like I look at my 11" air and think 'man these graphics are jaggy'.

Maybe it's cause I'm 50 and my vision isn't perfect, but unless I get my face a foot away from the screen, the resolution seems just fine to me.
 
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