Apple to Launch 8 GB iPhone 3GS?

[Cartoonkid]

I don't think lugging my Optiplex 755 around would be a good idea.


I don't have a printer. I guess I should write things out by hand then?

I can't memorize everything, sadly only human, or be prepared for the unexpected.

The internet if I have 802.x access. That's not a guarantee though.

Yes. Write them down. Your comparison shopping can't be so life-critical that you have to have the entire internet at your disposal every time you go to the store.

 

[iDeve1oper]

This is exactly what I've been looking for. Even 4GB would be good haha. Only need the phone for testing apps etc. I'm sure this will be a good sell. Plus, we can always upgrade.

 

[Eidorian]

Yes. Write them down. Your comparison shopping can't be so life-critical that you have to have the entire internet at your disposal every time you go to the store.

It must be terrible that I want to pay for some convenience in my life. I already pay for a cellphone that I never use, for convenience, and I'm not complaining about that.

 

[ScottL]

Of course it is not widely known (I don't think) that the iPhone 3GS has worse reception vs the 3G (see forum post on this a few weeks back*). I am about to take my recently purchased 3GS back and get the 3G instead. Of course I use my iPhone mainly as a PDA and even with 3 screens of apps use very little memory.


*briefly 3 people with iPhone 3GS had worse reception than a 3 G (purchased his past May) when standing next to one another in upstate NY.

 

[ViViDboarder]

It must be terrible that I want to pay for some convenience in my life. I already pay for a cellphone that I never use, for convenience, and I'm not complaining about that.

I wonder if there is a similar app out there for windows that would work on a UMID but there is an awesome app on Cydia called Red Laser that scans the barcode of ANYTHING and gives prices from all over for it. I use that whenever I buy anything now. So I definitely understand wanting to make sure I'm getting a deal.

 

[Tsuius]

This looks like a fake again.

Someone seems to be generating these fake "news" about Rogers and Fido. We had one a while back about a Christmas launch of the original iPhone and just recently Fido was supposed to get an iPhone with a front facing camera.
Both of these news in the past had made up "flyers" and "training materials".

 

[akutad]

Is anyone gonna get the 8GB? I can see why, but really?

I would because it's cheaper. Don't care about storage. I have an app called simplify which streams my entire iTunes music library.

 

[dicklacara]

Streaming?

Trust me, 8GB fills up fast. Your apps, contracts, and even photos alone take up some space. Once you add in your music and may be a video or two that will fill up the space even more.

It is pretty easy to do online streaming of audio and video on a 3G connection.

A full length movie takes 20-40 seconds to buffer enough to start playing. Scrubbing takes 1-10 seconds.

So, there might be less need to store most of your content on the device.

Dick

 

[ViViDboarder]

I would because it's cheaper. Don't care about storage. I have an app called simplify which streams my entire iTunes music library.

Same thing I do. I have a very big music library, but I keep my old iPod loaded up for using in my car. 8GB iPhone 3G gets about 100 songs from various smart playlist so I always have my favorites plus a little variety.

When I'm going on a long trip I can throw on a movie or something. I stream music with Simplify and Pandora when I'm bored of what's on my phone. Or I just sync it again and get another random batch.

It's pretty easy to get by with only 8GB.

 

[Cartoonkid]

It must be terrible that I want to pay for some convenience in my life. I already pay for a cellphone that I never use, for convenience, and I'm not complaining about that.

No, what's terrible is hearing you bitch about NOT wanting to pay for a convenience. If you want 3G everywhere you go, get an iPhone and pay for the service.

If that isn't in your budget, don't get one and do what the rest of the world does...write things down. Or better yet, use your cell phone to call a friend and ask them to look a couple of things up for you.

And for the record, you are complaining about the cell phone...every time you say that you're paying for something you never use.

 

[revbarabbas]

What are you people storing on your phones anyway?!

Lots and lots of music and photos and videos and apps...why what do you use it for?

 

[Eidorian]

I wonder if there is a similar app out there for windows that would work on a UMID but there is an awesome app on Cydia called Red Laser that scans the barcode of ANYTHING and gives prices from all over for it. I use that whenever I buy anything now. So I definitely understand wanting to make sure I'm getting a deal.

You've been very helpful. You're exciting the tinkerer in me but sadly it's for the iPhone.

Maybe I can pick up an old unlocked one. 2G is fine too.

 

[revbarabbas]

I'd be interested to hear where Apple is making all of their money with the iPhone if it isn't from selling...the iPhone?

AT&T

 

[revbarabbas]

Ok, so you want an iPhone without the phone. That's called an iPod Touch.

No contract necessary, wifi so that you can comparison shop to your heart's content.

Unfortunately he needs 3g...like he said.

 

[ViViDboarder]

You've been very helpful. You're exciting the tinkerer in me but sadly it's for the iPhone.

Maybe I can pick up an old unlocked one. 2G is fine too.

Yea and I just found this if that would solve your saving money and data issue. http://www.tuaw.com/2008/05/12/finally-a-data-only-iphone-plan-for-20-month/

Combine your PAYG phone and the iPhone with unlimited data. This solution would be cheaper than you paying for both data and the PAYG and you'd only have one device!

 

[LagunaSol]

Unfortunately he needs 3g...like he said.

Maybe Eidorian needs to abandon his liquid-nitrogen-cooled homebrewed PC overclocking project and spend his money on data plans like the rest of us schlubs.

 

[revbarabbas]

Nostalgia? I have to laugh when teenagers think ten years ago is nostalgia. My first computer (a TI99-4/A which I paid $99 for) had 16K of RAM and I couldn't afford a 160KB floppy disk drive. I had to buy a special cable to connect a Panasonic cassette recorder to store my BASIC programs on cassette. I believe this was 1985.

I'm sure there are other readers who can one-up me too.

Try a TRS-80 on for size...4K of ram 1.78mhz

 

[Eidorian]

Yea and I just found this if that would solve your saving money and data issue. http://www.tuaw.com/2008/05/12/finally-a-data-only-iphone-plan-for-20-month/

Combine your PAYG phone and the iPhone with unlimited data. This solution would be cheaper than you paying for both data and the PAYG and you'd only have one device!

I remember that TUAW article from last year. It should be on my del.ici.ous too.

Maybe Eidorian needs to abandon his liquid-nitrogen-cooled homebrewed PC overclocking project and spend his money on data plans like the rest of us schlubs.

When did I get one of those. Tell me where you have hidden it.

 

[twoodcc]

okay, i can see this happening to replace the current 8GB at the same price point, and then all three will get updated at the same time next year

 

[Cartoonkid]

Try a TRS-80 on for size...4K of ram 1.78mhz

Nice. Played with a Trash 80, but was "fortunate" to get a TI-99. 16k RAM and 3MHz processor, though I did have to use my tape recorder for storage. No floppies back in 1983...or at least none that were meant for home use.

Only took about a week to write a BASIC program that exceeded it's capacity, so the TI got returned and I got an Atari 800XL. Loved the plug in game and programming language cartridges (precursor to the Atari 2600) but still had to use the old tape recorder.

Thankfully, technology progresses quickly.

 

[Dublinstiofán]

Replace the iphone 3g 8gb with an iphone 3gs 8gb.
Makes Sence! Not rocket-science.

Don't you worry your pretty little heads about it

 

[TheMBC]

This can't be true! The pictures aren't blurry.
Oh, wait those are for pictures of the actual product, right?

If this is priced at $99, it'll make it a lot cheaper for *me* to upgrade. And I wouldn't be against it, although what I really want is a white iPhone /: And judging by those pictures, it's only coming in black.

 

[Ericatomars]

hmm... 8gb should be cheaper... Not bad not bad

 

[dicklacara]

For those who don't know, the iPhone doesn't compress data like other smartphones do. It eats it up like cheetos. Every iPhone is like having a laptop tethered on the network and for people who think any other company's network could handle it, you're sorely mistaken. Verizon's EV-DO network would get absolutely owned with the data slam that the iPhone causes.

Do you mean to say that every web site, mail server, etc. has the capability to detect that it is connected to certain brand & model of phone and compress/decompress (specifically for that device) what goes/comes over the cell connection?

Certainly, most web sites use standard compression formats (H264, MPEG, etc.) for large image, audio and video files. Most smart phones handle these equally as well as any other.

I suspect a large percent of wasted [cell radio] bandwidth is for the cruft contained in XML files. XML is very verbose and I have seen typical 250%-300% overhead for the XML tags in a packet of data, for example:

A Department Phone list, showing:

EMP_ID  LASTNAME    FIRSTNAME   PHONE           DEPARTMENT      EMAIL
1       Peterson    Carolynn    (612) 832-7654  Sales           CPETERSON
2       Heartsdale  Dave        (612) 832-7201  Accounting      FHEARTSDALE
3       Stewart     Linda       (612) 832-7478  Administration  LSTEWART
4       Smith       Aaron       (612) 832-7201  Accountings     ASMITH
5       Barken      Peter       (612) 832-7023  Engineering     PBARKEN
6       Jennings    Linda       (612) 832-7026  Engineering     LJENNINGS
7       Jacobson    Peter       (612) 832-7652  Sales           PJACOBSON
8       Frankin     Richard     (612) 832-7672  Sales           RFRANKLIN
9       Smith       Jenna       (612) 832-7422  Administration  JSMITH
10      Manley      Erica       (612) 832-7657  Sales           EMANLEY
11      Cabrerra    Francisco   (612) 832-7041  Engineering     FCABRERRA
12      Leary       Michelle    (612) 832-7047  Engineering     MLEARY
13      Branden     Dominique   (612) 832-7049  Accounting      DBRANDEN
14      Reardon     Walter      (612) 832-7427  Administration  WREADON
15      Barnes      David       (612) 832-7615  Sales           DBARNES

XML Packet: 740 data characters + 1,989 XML tags = 2,729 total or 269% overhead

Also there is the CPU power (and battery power on the smart phone) needed to encode/decode the XML packet at both ends of the connection.

The worst part is that there is no need to have a human-readable format (except when debugging) for one machine to communicate with another machine.

Dick

 

[TraceyS/FL]

Nostalgia? I have to laugh when teenagers think ten years ago is nostalgia. My first computer (a TI99-4/A which I paid $99 for) had 16K of RAM and I couldn't afford a 160KB floppy disk drive. I had to buy a special cable to connect a Panasonic cassette recorder to store my BASIC programs on cassette. I believe this was 1985.

I'm sure there are other readers who can one-up me too.

My Dad was excited when they gave him the "upper 4k" to write telemetry code in for weather satellites in the 70's! LOL!! He would have KILLED for the 8gb Touch back then