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I wouldn't be even a tiny bit surprised if we saw a refresh to the 5 form factor in the spring. This spring in fact. Apple is not going to totally abandon that size, and refreshing in the spring enables them to spread out their sales calendar. Thoughts?

As a 4" iPhone 6 would need to be priced lower than the normal 6 it would directly collide with the 5s.

I'd say they do a 4" 6c (specs like a 6 with the plastic casing of the 5c) when the release the next generation of big-phones next fall.
 
Looks like it won't be possible to simply walk into an Apple store and have a choice of color and memory until November or later. sigh.

I love the fact that this is surprising to you or anyone else. Apple has been selling iPhones for seven years now, and each and every year that is exactly what happens. It's not an accident either, there is just no upside to Apple building phones and putting them in warehouses for longer than they already do. They might as well launch the phone and start selling it as soon as I can so that people do not purchase other options before the iPhone is available in their country.

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As a 4" iPhone 6 would need to be priced lower than the normal 6 it would directly collide with the 5s.

I'd say they do a 4" 6c (specs like a 6 with the plastic casing of the 5c) when the release the next generation of big-phones next fall.

I don't see why that would be any problem because it would be replacing the iPhone 5s. They could simply have one model of iPhone 5 that they update in the spring, give it 16 gigs of memory and make it in three colors, there's no reason that can't sell for $99 and leave Apple perfectly happy because they will be incredibly profitable.pop in the new processor, The new camera, and you have a way to continue getting sales out of that model of phone.
 
I'm still waiting for mine in the mail. Jesus. Why don't they make enough for everyone in the US first... or maybe that's part of the hype machine. They're creating demand by pretending to limit supply.
 
I don't see why that would be any problem because it would be replacing the iPhone 5s. They could simply have one model of iPhone 5 that they update in the spring, give it 16 gigs of memory and make it in three colors, there's no reason that can't sell for $99 and leave Apple perfectly happy because they will be incredibly profitable.pop in the new processor, The new camera, and you have a way to continue getting sales out of that model of phone.

But right now the 5s is priced at $99 on contract, with A7 processor. How exactly would Apple benefit if they sell the internals of their flagship device, the 6 in a smaller package with the discounted price ($99 on contract?) That's similar to people who hated the 5 when it came out and said Apple should do a new version of the 4 with the 5 internals and connector

The 4" size, just like the 3.5", is starting its exit. Next year they drop the 5c, 5s becomes the entry level phone, the year after they drop the 5s. So expect the 4" size to be gone by this time in 2016
 
But right now the 5s is priced at $99 on contract, with A7 processor. How exactly would Apple benefit if they sell the internals of their flagship device, the 6 in a smaller package with the discounted price ($99 on contract?) That's similar to people who hated the 5 when it came out and said Apple should do a new version of the 4 with the 5 internals and connector

The 4" size, just like the 3.5", is starting its exit. Next year they drop the 5c, 5s becomes the entry level phone, the year after they drop the 5s. So expect the 4" size to be gone by this time in 2016

That smaller size still represents the majority of phones that are sold around the world, so don't expect Apple to exit that market.

Apple benefits because it is able to supply a market that otherwise would be neglected using a product that is still vastly profitable. Just because the processor is the same as the sex, that does not mean that Apple would not be happy to sell more phones that were configured in that way. All of these things are incredibly high profit margin, so the more devices you can sell, the better. Letting the 4 inch form factor die off is a bad idea and hopefully they are not planning on doing it. There are plenty of people out there who do not want a larger phone, and if Apple neglects to update the internals of that form factor, those buyers will be pushed to competitors.
 
The 4" size, just like the 3.5", is starting its exit. Next year they drop the 5c, 5s becomes the entry level phone, the year after they drop the 5s. So expect the 4" size to be gone by this time in 2016

That's exactly why I sold my IP4.. in just a couple of short seasons, it'll be just a paperweight that won't even function on wifi with apps.
 
I Am Designer™;20079592 said:
'Worst...' Really?! Just because you don't have your phone yet doesnt make the biggest ever roll out the worst roll out!

I wish my company could sell out of all it's stock at a massive profit margin and then sell every single new item as it litterally comes off the production line!!

At the rate these things are selling they would have had to have started stockpiling them months and months ago. Which means they would have leaked horrendously, and they would have been stockpiling massive amounts of inventory which is never good.

There was a story years ago about Tim Cook bringing just in time inventory to Apple, they hold very little warehouse stock and this is a good thing for Apple as a business, in fact for just about any manufacturing business.

It's great for Apple, but if they are already having stocking issues, which when you look at istocknow there appear to be MAJOR issues, then it's not so good for Apple. And this doesn't even begin to take into account the many bugs dripping off of the new iPhones and the iOS issues either.

In other words Apple selling out of the 6's is great, but it's been how almost a month and the stock levels are meager at best and nonexistent at worst. And they have 'pre-sold' over 4 million in China? How much longer are people going to wait because they are so popular over there?

Plus the 6+ apparently is only 'available' at a few resellers and both Best Buy and Target show that they have not had them at all yet. (The local Target now shows they have the 6+ 16g silver. What's the point?)

Plus bringing up 'just-in-time' manufacturing is a laugh. Apple *knew* these would be HUGE sellers. If they didn't, they should walk out of the office and into the path of a truck on De Anza Boulevard. It looks like the just-in-time isn't just-in-time. Maybe a longer gap between introductions would have been a good idea.

But, sure, I'm the ******* for pointing that there are stock issues...

Really, dealing with some people on this site is so tedious...

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I remember the lines in NYC being long for weeks after the 4s was released. It wasn't until December that supply finally started catching up.

I didn't realize that. I happened to walk in to an Apple store, and there was one in stock. Lucky I guess... It wasn't all that far after the launch as I remember, but I could be wrong.

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I'd say what pisses me off more is all the perfectly good iPhone 6 Pluses lost to BS bending videos.

And those 'Does it blend' people too. What a waste. Have the 'blended' a 6 yet?

I remember having to save up for my first guitar, and seeing a band where the lead guitarist smashed his guitar. Very 'adult', and obviously aping the Who, etc, but I remember standing there thinking that it was such a waste to ruin a perfectly good guitar just in some vain attempt to look 'bad ass'...

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But right now the 5s is priced at $99 on contract, with A7 processor. How exactly would Apple benefit if they sell the internals of their flagship device, the 6 in a smaller package with the discounted price ($99 on contract?) That's similar to people who hated the 5 when it came out and said Apple should do a new version of the 4 with the 5 internals and connector

The 4" size, just like the 3.5", is starting its exit. Next year they drop the 5c, 5s becomes the entry level phone, the year after they drop the 5s. So expect the 4" size to be gone by this time in 2016

I'd actually guess that they would drop the 5s and keep the 5c for the entry model. They didn't sell very well, so I'm sure they have a lot of stock of them... :)
 
iPhone 6 or 6 Plus, I still haven't decided yet. :confused:

Wish they had 32Gb base model, now instead have to spend more for 64Gb.
Seriously what fits in a 16Gb version anymore? Greedy much :apple: ?

6+ 64GB = future proof. I initially thought it was too big and would exchange it, but after 2 weeks, I decided to keep it because when I held my iPhone 5, it looked like a midget...lol. Really, just like Shaq in the picture with Yao.
 

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It's already hard enough to find the 64Gb Black anywhere in the UK, now the shortages will get worse...

Yeah, it's good to know that unlike shortages in iPhones in UK , we in Serbia are more likely to get shortages of gas for heating (due to Ukr/Ru dispute) , and electricity (due to recent floods) , but no shortages in iPhones, thanks good lord !!! .... oh, and God save the Queen to You too !!
 
And yet stock of *ANY* iPhone 6+ is totally nonexistent.

From looking at stock levels in istocknow, this could be one of the worst managed launches Apple has ever done. And there are how many threads with people whining about their iPhones taking so long to arrive?

They may sell 100M by January 1, many more 6+ than expected. They're basically maxing China's capacity !! Unless starting to produce phones 2-3 months more in advance, they couldn't do better.
 
64GB for an extra 100$ is really bad. Sure, relative to last year it is great, but the simple fact of the matter is that Apple is price gouging.

Now, another ***** complaint. Last year, 32GB for an extra $100 was bad, now Apple double that 64GB...still complaining...even 256GB, there're still many whiners...really.

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Keeping the 16GB model instead of the 32GB really ticked me off. I know a few people with 8GB and 16GB devices who have had to delete apps and photos to update to iOS 8.

I went with the 6 Plus - I couldn't pass up the larger battery and screen.

They chose to delete apps because they didn't want to plug in to use iTunes update or too stupid not to know how. That's not Apple's fault...
The point is that if they had 64GB and filled up 60GB of space, they still blame Apple?
 
6 & 6+ launched in India same time as China..

Now considering size of the population there, I wonder what the order book looks like for Apple in India??

I know iPhone isn't as popular there, but still a small percentage of a huge population should still bring up a significant sale number...

Does anyone know?

Preorders in India opened on 7th Oct. News is that there have been 20,000 bookings till the end of 8th Oct.

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...rong-start-in-india-604527?utm_source=taboola

Interesting quote from the news article..
"While that may not seem like an impressive number in absolute terms, anyone familiar with the realities of the India smartphone market will realise that's great going for a company's flagship smartphone. For example, LG India said it was targetting Rs. 200 crore sales from its 2013 flagship, the LG G2. A bit of calculation tells you that in terms of number of units sold, that's anywhere between 50,000 and 63,000 units, depending upon the base price you use. When you consider the new iPhone models have received nearly half as many pre-orders in just two days, you know Apple India has plenty of reasons to be happy"

Well, I have pre-ordered my 6 Plus and can't wait for the 17th :)
 
Just walked into a store and bought one

Hmmmmmmm, the local Radio Shack stores here in San Diego have the much sought after Grey, AT&T, 64 GB phones. The istocknow site doesn't show local stock. But I called at least two stores and they each had one.

I simply drove down and picked it up.

There may be some value in calling your local Radio Shack to check stock. I think they are often overlooked as a supplier and therefore aren't cleaned out so quickly.
 
Sorry to rock the writer's boat but there are NO Latin American countries included in this latest roll-out.

Is Mexico not a Latin American Country?

Glad it's finally coming there!
 
It's crazy how much supply Apple is able to provide to so many countries and people.

On a hysterical level, I'm surprised that the earth doesn't shift in orbit!:eek::rolleyes:

4 million iPhones is like a heck of a lot of iPhones... :eek:

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6+ 64GB = future proof. I initially thought it was too big and would exchange it, but after 2 weeks, I decided to keep it because when I held my iPhone 5, it looked like a midget...lol. Really, just like Shaq in the picture with Yao.

And Shaq is no midget either. Damn.:eek: Shrinking as you get older is the pits man...
 
Now, another ***** complaint. Last year, 32GB for an extra $100 was bad, now Apple double that 64GB...still complaining...even 256GB, there're still many whiners...really.



What are you even saying? I made my comment because some people are trying to justify the price. Just because it is relatively cheaper doesn't mean that it is a good deal. Smartphones are overpriced in general, whether it is Apple, Samsung, HTC, Motorola, or LG, and the list goes on. Apple is the only company that charges extra for more storage. So whatever, I am willing to pay it, but it is still price gouging, and I personally disagree with everyone who is defending Apple's pricing. I don't care if Apple provides a 256GB version, or even a 64GB version, I was just hoping that a 32GB option would be offered for 650$. It is a frusturating dilemma that is essentially exclusive to iPhones.

I am a huge Apple schill, and I spend too much time preaching the Apple gospel, but I can still admit that the reason why Apple has such great profit margins is because they make perfect products with mediocre hardware (at least for the most part). They make an OS that runs beautifully on less than cutting edge hardware, and I am perfectly fine with that. Just don't claim that it is a good deal, because it is not in any way.
 
^This.

It's a luxury item sold at predetermined price points.
Judging by demand I'd guess it's under-priced...

Fair enough, but do they really have to be such teases about it? For all the features to charge extra for, it just had to be storage, which costs next to nothing. I know I will pay it, and Apple knows I will pay it, but I really feel like a putz for paying 100$ extra on a feature that costs 10-15$.
 
Explains why I can't get my hands on a 6 plus still, too busy releasing in other countries so they can be low on stock too. Luckily I'm liking the Lumia 930 I'm currently using, so no problem to keep using it until I can get a plus (64 or 128Gb Space Grey).
 
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