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Ah, the Mac mini. What a nice little thing. It was one of the first Macs to get the Intel CPU's but was the last one to discontinue the "combo" drive.

If they update the minis and the Cinema Displays, I will choose the Mac mini + ACD combination over an iMac. It's just so cool-looking.

Not to mention you can update the Mac Mini in a couple of years and keep the ATD saving you money on hardware upgrade. You get a much less powerful computer this way but some people don't need all that power.
 
Seems like everything has been "confirmed" to be updated at the event except for the iMac, let's pray together folks, and hope that Jesus isn't up to anything better than helping out some Mac-fans! :D

While you're at it, send a prayer up for a new version that big box looking thing I remember from a few years ago. What was it called again? I think it had the word "Pro" in it somewhere.
 
More powerful than what? The current models? The latest GPUs are nearly twice the processing power for similar TDP to the current discretes in the mini and 512MB VRAM would be very welcome.

The HD4000. And I'm mostly commenting on what Apple is likely to actually provide in a Mini.
 
I just hope they don't solder the HDD like in the Retina Macbook. I have a 256GB SSD I want to use in this new 2012 Mac Mini once I get my hands on it.
The SSD is NOT soldered in. The RAM is. OWC has user upgrades for the SSD in the rMBP and other sellers (ebay) do too. That form factor is different than that used in the present Mac mini, but who knows what will be in the new yet-to-be-announced model? In any case, opening up the mini for a disk exchange is more complicated than it is on a MBP. Wait and Hope!:cool:
 
Who buys mac minis anymore? I dont see apple giving them much more than some spec bumps. I would think with the iPad out, Mac Mini sales have been steadily decreasing.

no iToy regardlless of spec can match the versatility of the Mac Mini.

It's all Apple offer in the entry level for people who want to keep using their existing displays etc... and don't have £2000 burning a hole in their pocket.

All-In-One's are nice if you like burning money every time you buy a new system, Mac Pros are great if you have limitless funds and can live with a 6 year old design (4 RAM slots per riser card with 1 redundant slot, SATA 3Gb/s) but they USED TO offer desktops with entry level CPUs and GPU that still offered internal expansion of both add-on cards and user upgradable hard drives bays.

Now it's baby Mac, monitor mac, Mac Pro and nothing filling the void inbetween.

If they can get a Mac Mini out the door with 10000+ Geekbench score that isn't half the price of a Mac Pro, they're onto a winner.
 
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People better buy a lot of these things

The company's stock is dropping like it was a call on an iphone.

HIYO!

The stock will correct, but not because of these Mac rumors. Stock holders don't care about Mac until it starts producing iPad or iPhone like revenue. Currently Mac is declining YoY on a world-wide scale along with the rest of the PC market (just not as fast).

The stock will correct when folks realize iPhone 5 sales are phenomenal. None of the speculative share holders who jumped on Gene Munster's 6-10 million projections for iPhone 5 accounted for the supply chain and pre-orders selling out in 40 minutes. That means that instead of a giant launch weekend and then a trailing off, Apple is going to get a mere record-breaking launch weekend and then a steady stream of high demand.

I checked out an iPhone 5 this last weekend at a nearby AT&T store. Their display model (which gets abused) looked great (unless you have a problem with microscopic scuffing). So it seems to me that "scuff gate" is blown out of proportion unless you got one that fell at the factory and has scuffing out of the box (incidentally, I believe my 4S got a ding at the factory and I failed to notice it until I owned it for six weeks -- very minor, but they do sometimes drop at the factory and get dinged or scuffed). Either way, I am more concerned about drop tests than guys purposely running a key over an Apple Store display model that does not even belong to them. The drop tests show the iPhone 5 is incredibly durable.

Further, surveys show that 9 out of 10 people are not deterred by the Maps issue because they know that Apple Maps will still get them to 90% of the places they care about. Those same surveys show that more than twice the number of people who said they wanted or planned to buy iPhone 4S are saying they want or plan to buy the iPhone 5. So the big "Maps Scare" sent the stock plummeting as well, but its not as big a deal as people say, and I expect Tim Cook or Scott Forstall to speak to it at the Oct 23rd event and upcoming improvement efforts. This will ease the panic around Maps.

So iPhone 5 should see about 50% to 70% increase in overall sales over iPhone 4S and this is what shareholders are going to care about. The only other thing that moves the stock upward is good news on iPad. The fiscal Q4 earnings should bolster the stock if supply on iPhone 5 was better than expected and we see over 25M iPhones sold in fiscal Q4. However, if we do not see that then the correction should come after fiscal Q1 (the holiday quarter) since by then the iPhone 5 supply chain should be able to take care of the incredible demand and the iPad mini and new iPod touch should also sell great as Christmas gifts.

If you are short-term investor, then all of this panicking sucks. But if you are riding out the long term then it does not matter if Apple carries over sales from one quarter to the next because they cannot meet the demand so long as the demand remains high. Currently all signs are showing that demand is indeed very high for Apple products (especially iPad and iPhone).
 
While you're at it, send a prayer up for a new version that big box looking thing I remember from a few years ago. What was it called again? I think it had the word "Pro" in it somewhere.

Tim already said they were working on something for next year. I'm not sure why people are still expecting an update yet this year. :confused:
 
Probably nicest iMac alternative:
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Apple has a lot of products that are in need of refresh. I always thought Apple used to be a lil behind in updates compared to others, But this year in particular seemed even more so.

I have no clue why, but the Mac Mini and the iMac's haven't been refreshed in well over a year. In the Computer world, 1 year is already archaic tech to be selling.

I always believed Apple needed to decrease the refresh time fromn 1 year average on hardware refreshes, to 6 months, But for these particular products, Apple has extended it's length.

In the Post PC era, most people have much more performance than they need or use. The penalty for being late is really minimal. Even the Mac Pro as it exist today has enough for most folks. Of course, why buy it when most of us can wait.

That said, I'm of the opinion that Apple is going to do a full chassis redesign adding a fourth PCI-E slot; add an SSD slot as per rMBP; eliminate the option for a second optical drive; eliminate the four 3.5 inch drive slots and replacing them with four 2.5 inch drive slots; add at least two but possibly four Thunderbolt interfaces for dual retina/4K display support; replace USB 2.0 with USB 3.0; and make it rack mountable.

Still out of aluminum.

This would eliminate most of the cooling issues with the drives; solve the expansion problem and allow for a much reduce envelope.
 
Gettin' my first Mac mini, but it will be for my parents with the new lineup debuting soon... I am also eyeing a new iMac for myself at the office, all pending on the next model's updates.

I have a copy of Maya & CS6 waiting to be installed on a new iMac... hope this update is legit, a new iMac is seriously on the horizon! Has to be promising...
 
Quad core AND discrete graphic card is all I ask. My current i7 with the nice AMD card is a great starter FCPX editing machine and can is really quite a speedy little beast with an SSD inside. Problem is encoding as this is still reliant on CPU to some extent I think so an extra pair would be great, who'd say no to an extra pair!
 
Not to mention you can update the Mac Mini in a couple of years and keep the ATD saving you money on hardware upgrade. You get a much less powerful computer this way but some people don't need all that power.

It is less powerful, sure, but it is justifiable given the tiny size of this thing. Honestly, I always loved the minis and if they get a decent upgrade, I might seriously buy one. They are just awesome.

Too bad, I'll need to get the Superdrive to rip my CD's to iTunes :mad:
 
Just imagine if the whole event will be around the AA battery charger...
But seroiusly, if the rumors about the thinner iMac means that it will get the soldered-on RAM treatment, long live the Mini indeed (unless it also has soldered-on RAM, in which case I'll go hide in a corner and quietly weep)
 
In the Post PC era, most people have much more performance than they need or use. The penalty for being late is really minimal. Even the Mac Pro as it exist today has enough for most folks. Of course, why buy it when most of us can wait.

1, I hate the "post PC" era term. Too much abuse and not enough understanding.

Protip: Tablets are PC's. Just of a different form.

I think Tablets are a step towards the Post PC (as we'd still need some form of PC to actually interface with the "whole home" computing), but the tablet in itself is still just a handheld Personal Computer.

that aside.

while you're right that you don't necesssarily need "the latest greatest" in computers anymore, It's still the business to always want and need something with more numbers. it's been that way since day 1 and it's still that way today. NOT keeping your product up to date with everyone elses is a sure fire way of ensuring that thos who are buying today, don't look in your direction.

1 lost sale because someone else has the newest tech at the same price you're selling the old tech is 1 lost sale. And in the world of business, Every sale should count
 
I understand the MacPros need a bump, but aren't they still far more powerfull then anything else in the Mac line? I could see wanting to get what your moneys worth, and what they have isn't nearly worth the price your paying anymore.

Mac Mini is awesome lil bugger. Hopefully we get a better GPU, I am looking at buying a Mac Mini for a rendering machine for Final Cut Pro. Then I will have a good desktop and notebook for mobile work.
 
Let's hope that the "better" model has both discrete graphics and a quad-core CPU.

This. I'd absolutely love it if they did a quad (physical) core version (maybe 3720QM) with an ok graphics chip (maybe GeForce GT 650M) that can drive 3 displays (say 1 HDMI and 2 Thunderbolt ports).
 
The big question for me will be how the updated proc+intel 4000 perform in the heat department. Really disappointed how much fan spin up I get on the 2011 mac mni. I think a lot of other folks are as well.
Thinking I can sell my 2011 2.5 6630M with 16GB of RAM, Samsung 830+7200 RPM drive for the lower end 2012 model and just throw in a single 500GB SSD.
The intel 4000 should be as good as the 6630M for most people.
 
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