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Apple to livestream its fall event
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Nail meet hammer (as in, bingo).
Every time I've used the new streaming tech it's been flawless and looked fantastic. It's definitely a lot better than the older streaming technology that froze up or never started streaming to begin with. That stuff was worthless for mass streaming.
Hahah it better work.
The server I have to use in Edmonton, but I actually live basically in the middle of nowhere and that is the fastest speed we can get out here.
Oh damn, I wouldn't hold your breath on that
Unless Apple offers an ultra low res stream
thank you orvlrd. such good advice for those of us using Leopard on non-Intel machines. we'll go out and buy a new laptop just for tomorrow's show just because you have bestowed your wisdom upon us. "I love all the people giving us non-Snow-Leopard users such incredible insight".
I never said my advice was the best, and I never said to go buy a new computer just so you can watch the stream. I was saying that you should buy a new computer because it is old and can't really handle too much these days anyway. If you have a PowerBook G4 then you probably know it's not that fast and can't really handle the latest technologies as well. I am not telling you what to do, just saying that you complaining about it is pointless, you know your computer is old, and so you shouldn't expect everything to work in your favor.
A day is coming when we can watch the keynotes and product launches live on Apple TV. The proper TV channel mind not just a one off internet stream!
Hahah it better work.
The server I have to use in Edmonton, but I actually live basically in the middle of nowhere and that is the fastest speed we can get out here.
I think you can stream those images on Gizmodo or other sites faster than going to Apple with that speed...
Especially considering it's not just speed you need to worry about with streaming video, it's latency, and wow 620ms ping is HORRIBLE.
Well, when (not for streaming videos but playing WoW) I sometimes have over 1000 ms latency.
MY record for so far, no kidding, was 36.000 ms.
I have no screenshot from it (forgot to take it), but I can tell you, at that moment, you don't even notice the difference between a few thousand ms's any more.
Edit:
Well, is this doable?
Second is from Belgium overseas to San Fransisco. First one is the nearest from home.
Well, when (not for streaming videos but playing WoW) I sometimes have over 1000 ms latency.
MY record for so far, no kidding, was 36.000 ms.
I have no screenshot from it (forgot to take it), but I can tell you, at that moment, you don't even notice the difference between a few thousand ms's any more.
Edit:
Well, is this doable?
Second is from Belgium overseas to San Fransisco. First one is the nearest from home.
WoW is a video game and an MMO at that, so it has a lot of things built in to compensate for latency. One of the biggest ones is an action buffer, so what happens is the local side of the game never stops movement and stops receiving actions for your character unless that buffer runs out. This means you can have high latency and still play, but if your latency gets too high it might freeze the current actions and log you out. It takes a lot though.
Streaming videos are different because it has to get the frames in the right order at a quick enough speed to make it work. So having a faster connection helps, but having low latency means it can keep up with the server at a better pace, so you never have to wait for the next set of frames to load.
Basically you can have a high speed download, but high latency and what will happen is you will get "bursting" which will provide you with a bunch of frames and then a long gap between the next "burst."
Modern video codecs are great at handling this stuff though and it really wouldn't be a problem, there would just be a longer buffer involved, similar to how WoW works with a high ping. It still won't help if your ping gets too high though, because if the frames are not in the right order (since packets on the internet can arrive in whatever order they want based on routing) it might have to "rebuffer."
Also I want to add the fact that a server under high load (like tomorrow likely will) will have it's own internal latency issues in terms of getting video out. This added latency doesn't help if your own latency is high. All of these things factor in, and sometimes (a lot of times) streaming video on the internet is more a problem related to server-side latency rather than the latency of routers between the server and the client.
If I were an arrogant douche I would say something along the lines of:
...but I guess to each his own, and people may have many reasons to want to stream it.
...but I guess to each his own, and people may have many reasons to want to stream it.
Fall Event? - Autumn doesn't begin til September 23rd
Fantastic stuff...I'm surprised they haven't done this sooner!
Fantastic stuff...I'm surprised they haven't done this sooner!
Windows is proprietary, as is Android. Duh
Seriously, I don't get it. Why doesn't Chrome, Firefox, or IE8 work?
Firefox don't support H.264, IE8 dosen't even have HTML 5 support (IE9) will. Chrome supports HTML 5 and H.264 but not HTTP streaming.
Well... #1... wouldn't someone be able to fake a user agent setting in their browser to look like a mac?
#2. I have a dual boot Hackintosh/Windows PC... I am pretty sure the Hackintosh OSX installation would be seen as a real Mac when trying to watch.
This isn't about Apple deliberately blocking some set-ups, it's about the technical requirements. The http streaming protocol has very definite system requirements - for a supposedly tech' savvy web site, there are a lot of users on here who don't seem very clued up...
Everyone is getting that right now - the stream isn't available.
The stream is available for iOS devices, of which the iPad is one.
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_0_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8A400 Safari/6531.22.7)
Great news. Only thing is Andy murrays is on around the same time !!!
Come on Andy and come on apple !!!
Great news. Only thing is Andy murrays is on around the same time !!!
Come on Andy and come on apple !!!
What does 3G attenuation have to do with the wi-fi signal. There is no wi-fi issue with the iPhone 4, so how he was holding it is irrelevant. (for the record no antenna issue has occurred for me or any of my iPhone 4 owning friends or colleagues).