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Apple to Lure Android Users to iPhone With New Trade-In Program
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Not quite.
M8/Z3/G3 are 500/550$ 350/450
Nexus 6 is 600
Only the brand new in the first month come anywhere near
Samsung S6 / M9 700/750
6plus is 800$ 725 But high end android usually have 32GB so thats more 900$/800
And those are the mayor brands.
Oneplus/OPPO and you start high end at 300
High end WM is 450 .
Wicked1
macrumors 68040
Yes the IT folks I work with use Android because they hate being forced into the Apple echo systems, they like to be able to use whatever they want on their phones. I am not going to respond to this thread anymore, just made a statement and now it turned into a huge debate.
Thanks
gnasher729
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There are always some who buy your product without you spending any effort, and there are always some who will never buy your product, whatever you do. For marketing purposes, you can mostly ignore both groups.
But there are many people who didn't buy Android because they were clueless or by accident, but who are not "hardcore" either. With Samsung selling 80 million smartphones in the last quarter, I would estimate that 50-60 million are in that category in between. 10 million who regret buying the phone, 10 million who you will never, ever convince to buy something else, and lots of people in the middle. If Apple's trade-in program convinces just ten percent of those, that's a lot of phones.
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Especially since Apple had cut/copy/paste in 1984 on all their Macs and even earlier in some Apple II software.
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Can we just forget about this "subsidising"? Your phone isn't subsidised. You pay the full price of your phone, plus a generous profit for the company, as part of your monthly payments. You _are_ paying for the device in full. And in the USA, after 24 months when you have paid for the device, the phone companies won't reduce your monthly rates because the phone is paid for. Instead they either silently take more money for a device that is already fully paid, or they give you the choice of buying another phone.
s2mikey
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Thanks for getting it. Everyone pays top dollar for their phone everytime whether they believe it or not. The obnoxious monthly phone bill should prove that but phone users just turn their heads the other way and "think" they are getting a deal. No, they aren't. They are paying the full $700 bucks for their phone it's just spread out over monthly payments and buried into the contract details. I didn't think people were that dumb.....but then again..... Eh.
Trapezoid
macrumors 65816
You can only use obscure references if you're trying to downplay apples contributions, didnt ya know?
For example there is something that kinda sorta looks like a tablet in 2001:a space odyssey. Therefore apples ipad is nothing special. (Yes, people have used this idiotic example before)
LordVic
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To b fair, that was actually used in a courts decision and it wasn't to downplay the iPad's innovation and market expansion. (hopefully nobody denies this)
The only reason it is brought up because of the whole "Square with round corners" and their motions to sue other tablet makers over what is called "trade dress".
Apple, because of prior art, cannot claim ownership of the shape and image of the form factor of the tablet, which they had made motions to do so.
Trapezoid
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Surely you should know by now that I don't just say things without proof, unlike the couple of people here (who we both know who they are) who constantly do.
There were in fact people everywhere on the internet saying that apple didnt do anything special because of what the movie showed.
You can find many examples in this thread: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1217557/
A simple Google search will find many more examples.
LordVic
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AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
I haven't changed what I post. I have never said it was the same people. I'll have to leave it at that as I'm not permitted to post as you do.
Trapezoid
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Took me all of one second to find:
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/29/next-generation-iphone-51-also-referenced-in-ios-5-1-beta/
Let's leave it at that, yes.
uid15
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My friend pays £52 PER MONTH for the privelidge of having an iPhone 6+, and the best of it is, he calls ME and asks me to look things up for him online, because he can't get a 3G signal on his crappy Vodafone contract... LMAO.
Naturally, he's got all manner of justifications lined up to reason it all away.
AppleScruff1
macrumors G4
Took me all of one second to find:
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/29/next-generation-iphone-51-also-referenced-in-ios-5-1-beta/
Let's leave it at that, yes.
That's the best you can find? Me agreeing with another user 43 months ago?
Trapezoid
macrumors 65816
Please do share the qualifications that make your words "I never" true. Do I have to find an example where you said it on a Tuesday during a full moon after 11pm in order for my example to be valid?You can keep arguing btw. I won't be responding to this silliness any longer. The point has already been proven.
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kdarling
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Correct. Apple sued Samsung over a design patent, D504,889.
Samsung's lawyers wanted to use Arthur C. Clarke's predicted "Newspad", depicted in the 1968 movie, "2001:A Space Odyssey", as a defense against Apple lawyers' claim that their design patent was a unique idea.
However, although Samsung's lawyers had shown that (and many other pieces of prior art) in pretrial hearings as tablet history without any complaints, they failed to specifically note that the prior art would also be used later to try to prove invalidity and non-infringement. (They assumed this was obvious.)
Apple's lawyers saw the mistake, and waited to oppose the evidence until after the deadline to be specific had passed for Samsung. This meant a legal technicality successfully got most prior art thrown out of the trial. (At which time Samsung's California head lawyer said to Judge Koh, "What's the point of having a trial?" and then leaked the info to the press.)
If Apple was secure in its innovation claims, they didn't show it. Making sure that a lot of prior art was withheld from the jury, was not a sign of confidence in their claims of uniqueness.
As it turned out, the 2001 reference wasn't needed anyway. The jury ruled that Samsung had not infringed on Apple's tablet design, and Koh had to lift her preliminary injunction on the Tab.
LordVic
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even without 2001, there are enough poplar media depictions ofhandheld tablets that look similar to what Apple designed.
In fact, I was just re-watching Star Trek - The Next Generation with my niece (she was bored and hated it, grrrr), but she pointed out "look, he's got an iPad"
Circa 1988.
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Back on topic, I'm approaching thepoint that I'm shopping for a new phone. I had narrowed it down to the Iphone6 and S6 Edge. I had hoped that Apple's trade in incentive might help,
but unfortunately, Apple has jacked up prices in Canada, and this offer isn't available here either.
Right now, the lowest End iPhone6 is now $839 CAD. With tax that comes to $948.07 for 16GB. unless Apple is willing to help out on that with some form of real incentive, its well outside of my budget, which is a shame, because it's easily the nicest looking device this generation.
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kdarling
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I always thought that the BBC's 1973 Tomorrow People's tablet looked a lot like the iPad. (No wonder that Apple's lawyers worked to ban its image from the trial as prior design art.)
The famous Knight-Ridder 1994 newspaper tablet concept had rounded corners:
In many courts around the world, the 2004 Ozolins design patent won the day for Samsung:
And of course, Samsung had already sold a flat-faced rounded (albeit really thick) digital picture frame in 2006, four years before the iPad and before even the iPhone:
But I think in the US, it was the 2001 Compaq TC1000 Windows tablet that convinced the California jury that rounded rectangular flat screens were not an Apple invention:
SpyderBite
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Meh
While I have both an android and iphone. I would never give up my LG G3. I've had iPhones since first release. However, instead of upgrading my 5S, I chose to make my G3 my primary device and see if I could manage without the ecosystem I was used to.
My iPhone is a secondary line that I rarely use for anything more than upgrades. I don't turn the device on more than twice a month now and that is only to erase any voice mails.
With that said. I would happily switch back to an iPhone as my primary device is the deal was sweet enough. The bells and whistles of the android platform are minimal in comparison. I could go either way.
But... I doubt Apple is going to do an even swap for my device. So, for somebody who is content on either platform; this isn't much of an enticement.
I can see how this might be appealing to people who are unhappy with the android platform. But I don't think many people feel "stuck" with an android phone. With all the cheap upgrade options available these days; I suspect anybody who was unhappy with either platform has already changed.
While I have both an android and iphone. I would never give up my LG G3. I've had iPhones since first release. However, instead of upgrading my 5S, I chose to make my G3 my primary device and see if I could manage without the ecosystem I was used to.
My iPhone is a secondary line that I rarely use for anything more than upgrades. I don't turn the device on more than twice a month now and that is only to erase any voice mails.
With that said. I would happily switch back to an iPhone as my primary device is the deal was sweet enough. The bells and whistles of the android platform are minimal in comparison. I could go either way.
But... I doubt Apple is going to do an even swap for my device. So, for somebody who is content on either platform; this isn't much of an enticement.
I can see how this might be appealing to people who are unhappy with the android platform. But I don't think many people feel "stuck" with an android phone. With all the cheap upgrade options available these days; I suspect anybody who was unhappy with either platform has already changed.