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Gonna miss my 2010 and 2011 MacBook Pros

In fact I was a little disappointed by the overall 'average' speed of my 2016 Touchbar MacBook Pro vs my 2010 MacBook Pro...


Just to set this straight, this video comparison is just not right. First off, the old macbook doesn't have encryption turned on. So the computer boots before you get to the login screen. The new macbook has encryption which explains why it takes so slow to login. With encryption turned on, you get the login screen really early and the computer boots after you put in your password. So this video should be amended or retracted as it is invalid.
 
Looks like my 13" Late 2011 bought itself another year I hope.

I had an early 2011 15" MBP that I replaced with the retina 2012 model. They aren't significantly different hardware wise. That 2011 model was and still should be pretty powerful. It has a quad-core i7 and SSD with a graphics card plenty powerful enough to drive a non-retina display. Can't remember, does this mean it won't get macOS updates either?

We're coming into a weird age where computers aren't getting much faster each year but companies are still having to obsolete older ones despite the fact that they still run fine. It's weird and seems wasteful.
 
I think it's unlikely these models will be getting the next year's macOS upgrade. And I think that's reasonable. If people want to be taking advantage of all the great features and innovations in the newest versions of macOS then they really need to help support Apple by buying new systems. 5 years is long enough.

I'll have a stack of whatever you smoke... Tim.
 
I don't care, as long as they release a new mac mini to replace my near obsolete 2009 mac mini... Before it dies please...
 
My 2009 unibody macbook was oldest to support sierra and I'm happy it does.

It is old and not surprised to see it cut off.

I work for a pc repair company.
sometimes we cannot even get a part for a 12-18 month old machine!

Ebay sometimes has a part but it is used most the time.

Shortly will be forced to go back to my 17" macbook pro of 2007 vintage.
Still almost as fast as my 2009 unibody!
 
Is that so? How long have you spent using it?


Required for what? They aren't required to just use it as a laptop. Dongles are optional to the extent you want to use your legacy peripherals.


Is that so? How long have you spent using it?


Standard Apple pricing. Apple has always been priced high.


There are function keys.


Yep. Same as every other comparable laptop of similar weight, size, and battery life.

This type of apologist attitude is the reason why Apple is getting humiliated both in sales and overall customer satisfaction. It's as if you think people's very valid complaints of Apple don't matter.
 
And not just 5 years. 5 years from the date they were last manufactured. Note that on the list of vintage/obsolete products, the older mid-2010 MBP is nowhere to be found. Because it was still being manufactured up until about a month ago. It could very well see support through 2020. Ditto for the iPad 2.

I doubt buyers care or consider (when will apple discontinue this machine) when they fork over money to buy them. All they know is when they purchased their system, and how old actually is when something like this comes up.

I get the math Apple is using, however I also feel for the customers facing this scheduled obsolescence on their beloved systems.
 
:( my 2009 MBP must have been on that list for a while. still working like a champ!
 
Gonna miss my 2010 and 2011 MacBook Pros

In fact I was a little disappointed by the overall 'average' speed of my 2016 Touchbar MacBook Pro vs my 2010 MacBook Pro...


"Our best MacBook Pro ever"
- Apple



:rolleyes:
 
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Is that so? How long have you spent using it?


Required for what? They aren't required to just use it as a laptop. Dongles are optional to the extent you want to use your legacy peripherals.


Is that so? How long have you spent using it?


Standard Apple pricing. Apple has always been priced high.


There are function keys.


Yep. Same as every other comparable laptop of similar weight, size, and battery life.


Are you dating Tim Cook by any chance?
 
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So... that Early 2011 MacBook Pro, that would be the 2.0/2.2 GHz quad-core i7 with 4-16GB of RAM and with a Radeon HD 6490M/6750M. Yeah, I can see how that would be out of date now. It's not like it's 50% more powerful than the current MacBook in multi-core apps and equally as powerful as the current MacBook in single-core apps. The GPU chips are about as powerful as the Intel HD Graphics 515 chip in the current MacBook too from what I can tell. Plus it can also handle twice as much RAM as the current MacBook.

Of course all of that is irrelevant. The early 2011 MacBook Pro may be faster than the 2016 MacBook but it is simply too old and slow to run new operating systems and software. Unlike the current 2016 Retina MacBook which is plenty fast for new software but is unfortunately slower than the early 2011 MacBook Pro that is being obsoleted.

My head hurts. :-/
 
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This type of apologist attitude is the reason why Apple is getting humiliated both in sales and overall customer satisfaction. It's as if you think people's very valid complaints of Apple don't matter.
Got some numbers to back up that claim of "humiliation"? :rolleyes:
 
I have an early 2011 15" MBP. I have yet to find a worthy replacement worth my money. Apple, this is a problem. I waited all this time to have the following:
  • Weak, under-powered machine
  • Dongles are required
  • Gimmicky Touchbar
  • $2,400 Starting Price
  • No Function Keys
  • 16gb RAM cap
Let's get Tim out of there. Please. Seriously.

I was waiting too, well still am. I passed on the 2015 - too much money for 'old' CPUs.

The MacBook Pro 2016 sounded great, until Apple announced the price... sure, I could afford it - but the price is excessive. Instead bought a windows PC, far better value for money - which will bridge the time until Apple lower the prices of its laptops. Apple hiked the price of the first retina display Apple, then that price was reduced after - the first generation. Hopefully pattern will be the same.
 
Is that so? How long have you spent using it?


Required for what? They aren't required to just use it as a laptop. Dongles are optional to the extent you want to use your legacy peripherals.


Is that so? How long have you spent using it?


Standard Apple pricing. Apple has always been priced high.


There are function keys.


Yep. Same as every other comparable laptop of similar weight, size, and battery life.

Every rebuttal you listed has biased fanboy written all over it.
 
Looks like my 13" Late 2011 bought itself another year I hope.
I mean, on the one hand it's not like your machine will just become obsolete because Apple says it is. It might be more difficult to repair, but if you take care of it, it will be fine. On the other hand you have the problem of OS updates, but even if Apple does stop updating macOS for these machines, you can still get by on them without problems. Usually Apple issues security updates for older OS versions too so you won't be left out on critical updates. You just won't get all the fancy new features and whatever new advanced integration with iOS, iCloud, etc.

I'm hoping that my mid-2012 rMBP can last until the hex-core iMacs come out, either late 2017 or early 2018. Then it will be more of a backup machine for when I need to go mobile. Eventually I'll replace it, probably with a 13" MBP unless the iPad Pro becomes a viable alternative. Hopefully by 2018 or 2019 they have quad-core chips in the 13" form factor.
 
Have you ever worked in insurance companies or in Networking? They run Windows servers on most "Legacy" hardware you say is horrendous.
Microsoft supports legacy I would hate to see what would happen if one day they just decided not to support anything over 5 years old.

All the people moaning on this thread really need to get some perspective. Legacy hardware support from other OEMs is nothing short of horrendous.

Apple machines are a godsend if you're working in aftercare support.
 
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2011 feels a bit rushed TBH, but I guess that is still a good run for HW support. Hopefully OS support is continued for a considerable time.
Yes it is a little bit if take in to consideration how powerfull machines from that time are. I mean I have a MBP 13 late 13 and it is blazing fas, even now after 3 full years !
 
Even the early 2011 MacBook Pros are still very capable and run latest OSX extremely well ( as long as you have SSD ).

I had to downgrade to earlier OS because Sierra was causing my graphics card to freeze on boot-up. Hasn't happened since I downgraded. Oh well.
 
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