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Apple to Offer $29 iPhone Battery Replacements, More Battery Health Info in iOS

Stella said:
Oh, absolutely, they have now done the right thing and thats a positive.

BUT - If Apple had offered "good customer service", things would have never have gone so far, Apple would have acknowledged such issues earlier instead of waiting for things to blow up.
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Maybe yes, maybe no. It’s hard to know Apple’a true intent with the software. If you take it at face value, they were trying to make the experience better. They might have thought the slowdown wouldn’t really be noticeable or impactful enough to matter but would ensure no massive piss off factor like turning off randomly.

I think they underestimated how noticeable the performance management would be on a large scale. Every phone runs just a little differently because of all the different situations.
 
xmonkey said:
Anyone who thinks Apple did this as some gesture of goodwill is naive. They know there are problems with the batteries in those phones on a large scale and they got caught. This isn't normal lithium-ion behavior and it's ******** to suggest otherwise. If it was, Apple wouldn't be doing this. The 6S replacement program was just them showing their hand a little bit. The class-action should bear this out.

They're the richest company in the world, don't reward Apple by paying them for something they screwed up.
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Hey Mr Software Engineer - do you realize that the entire point of throttling performance is to ensure a longer life of the phone relative to battery capacity? lithium ion batteries degrade. They could not throttle performance and then you’ll see worse effects like random restarts. Why? You updated to an OS your phone wasn’t meant to run. Apple did their part by optimizing the OS on your older device to run the best that it can given the hardware limitation.

The comparison is inevitably Android, where .2% of handsets are running Oreo. THERE IS A REASON FOR THIS PLEASE READ BETWEEN THE LINES SO I DONT HAVE TO SPELL IT OUT EVEN MORE.
 
MagicBoy said:
You're wrong. The data is out there to support it, go check the GeekBench blog.

My 6 was randomly shutting down at under 40% battery showing in early 2017. iOS 10.2.1 resolved that issue. It's still on iOS 10.3.whatever and was experiencing slowdown until the battery was replaced a couple weeks ago.
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You Clearly were overcharging you phone...that doesn't make it the same for ALL!
 
For all the people complaining saying Apple is intentionally providing a crap experience either because of planned obsolecense or because they don’t care or whatever you’re basically saying Apple customers are iSheep that will keep buying from Apple no matter what their experience is like just because they’re part of a cult or to lazy to buy something else or whatever. What complete and utter nonsense. It’s as stupid as the Apple intentionally restricts supply to create a false sense of demand we get every year iPhone is released. Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.
 
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GizmoDVD said:
Amazing news and uncalled for. I imagine all the trolls will have to find something else to whine about. Apple has stepped up and addressed something that was not a big deal.
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Android "Oh crap. Hope they don't find out how we make incompatible OS, Apps and everything else crappy"
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Couldn't disagree with you more. Advising people that their performance is throttled because of an aging battery is pretty basic.

THE ONLY reason they wouldn't would be to increase their sales. Look how bad Apple's management has gotten under Tim COOK!

Options under this scenario:

1) Keep performance as advertised, and let the battery die fast giving more reason for customers to change there battery

2) Reduce performance, but at least advise customers through a notification that performance is being reduced, and a battery replacement in the future is recommended.

3) Reduce performance, don't notify the customer of anything, and let the customer think the phone is slow and unethically make them think they require an upgrade.

APPLE CHOSE 3!!! how can you Appletards not see how option 3 is the worst.

AND LET"S BE HONEST, how hard is it to replace the battery on an iphone. PRETTY EASY! (god forbid customers who know how to use a screw driver change the freaken battery themselves)
 
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I wonder if I can buy back my iPhone 6 where I sold it thinking there was a problem with it slowing down when here all it needed a battery and the original iOS.
 
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Still don't buy it.

1. 29 dollars for a year and then back to 79 dollars? LOL nice scam

2. I live nowhere near an Apple Store, closest one is an hour away. So what now?

2. My iPhone 6S's battery capacity is still at 80 percent, and ive had it since it came out in 2015. Yet my CPU has been clocked down to (single core score) 1500 (as I type this) and i've seen it at 1200 many times before. My (multi core score) is at 2400. For single core, this is more than a thousand point drop, and for multi core more than a 2 thousand point drop, from what it's suppose to be.

3. Apple can try to blame battery's, but in reality, in just the last 3 months my iPhone has been trash. Mmm what could have happened in these last 3 months oh yea iOS 11 was released. How could my iPhone right before iOS 11 released, which was near its 2 year birthday work fine, and my "battery" degrade so rapidly after upgrading to iOS 11?

4. If Apple implemented these battery mechanisms in Janurary with iOS 10, why did I only feel the effects (slow downs, lags) when I upgraded to iOS 11, 7 months later?

5. Can I opt out of these battery mechinisms instead? I never had the problem of my iPhone 6S randomly shutting down. I would take smooth performance any day...

5. I'll say it again. iPhones CPUs and GPUs have become so powerful that the majority of the people who just use Facebook, iMessage, and Camera, wouldn't need to upgrade every year or even every 2 years. But Apple needs you to upgrade. So they purposely do these measures to slow down your phone. Or just purposely poorly optimize the code.
 
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Euroamerican said:
I'm not talking about slightly slower performance, I'm talking overall functionality. Slower is one thing, but you are seeing people in this thread talking about lack of actual functionality. My thought is that they should patch old versions for longer amounts of time, maybe a year longer than they currently are. No new functionality or features expected, just support for existing functionality. Want the features of a new OS that your old phone doesn't really support well, don't force an upgrade to me that junks my old phone. Tell me to buy an upgrade.

I personally don't have an issue with the IOS 11 upgrade and actually like it better, except the significantly lower battery life. Battery was performance with 10 was fine, with 11, NOT.

My iPad 3 is on an older OS, 9.whatver. I don't expect them to patch that one, but if you are Apple and you pushed 10 to it, you should patch 10. They didn't for the iPad 3. That good.
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I haven’t seen anyone show any lost functionality. The peak cpu speed is reduced, and the CPU speed ramps more slowly. That’s it.
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TrenttonY said:
Still don't buy it.

1. 29 dollars for a year and then back to 79 dollars? LOL nice scam

2. I live nowhere near an Apple Store, closest one is and hour away. So what now?

2. My iPhone 6S's battery capacity is still at 80 percent, and ive had it since it came out in 2015. Yet my CPU has been clocked down to (single core score) 1500 (as I type this) and i've seen it at 1200 many times before. My (multi core score) is at 2400. For single core, this is more than an thousand point drop, and for multi core more than a 2 thousand point drop, from what it's suppose to be.

3. Apple can try to blame battery's, but in reality in just the last 3 months my iPhone has been trash. Mmm what could have happened in these last 3 months oh yea iOS 11 was released. How could my iPhone right before iOS 11 released, which was near its 2 year birthday work fine, and my "battery" so rapidly degrade after upgrading to iOS 11?

4. If Apple implemented these battery mechanisms in Janurary with iOS 10, why did I feel the effects (slow downs, lags) when I upgraded to iOS 11, 7 months later?

5. Can I opt out of these battery mechinism instead? I never had the problem of my iPhone 6S shutting down often. I would take smooth performance any day...

5. I'll say it again. iPhones CPUs and GPUs have become so powerful that the majority of the people who just use Facebook, iMessage, and Camera, wouldn't need to upgrade every year or even every 2 years. But Apple needs you to upgrade. So they purposely do these measures to slow down your phone. Or just purposely poorly optimize the code.
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I bet you believe Hillary Clinton was molesting kids in a pizza parlor, too.

The way people concoct conspiracy theories based on nothing is remarkable.
 
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clauzzz203 said:
Looks like HTC and Motorola can design a phone without scamming the customers and throttling their posession after a year. So Apple is still bulls******g us with their conveniently made up story AND charging US to cover it up again!

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ont-slow-processor-speeds-old-batteries-apple
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You should read the comments. HTC & Motorola doesn't slow down phones during updates because apparently they they don't offer updates to the OS. Additionally, other people who commented on this thread who own related phones stated their phones slowed down anyway regardless of getting updates or not.
 
Nor10 said:
Your Point is Not Clear...the Problem is Apple...has made it a battery issue...it isn't...they are double talking...Not the consumer complaints...In the history of iPhones; this has never occurred. People accept batteries will deteriorate over time. But in this case Apple without any basis has Claimed all of our phone batteries are bad and "purposely" slowed our phones down even lower than original performance specs" to compensate for both poor code and forced upgrades. In the final analysis this will be proved accurate. Meanwhile...Apple Screwed the Apple Community...short term and the long term....
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No where has Apple claimed all batteries are bad and not every phone is being slowed down. Stop talking nonsense.
 
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Rogifan said:
For all the people complaining saying Apple is intentionally providing a crap experience either because of planned obsolecense or because they don’t care or whatever you’re basically saying Apple customers are iSheep that will keep buying from Apple no matter what their experience is like just because they’re part of a cult or to lazy to buy something else or whatever. What complete and utter nonsense. It’s as stupid as the Apple intentionally restricts supply to create a false sense of demand we get every year iPhone is released. Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.
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Smoke some more purple haze!
 
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Yes, absolutely, but if so the drop in performance also indicates lack of QA: Apple should have tested the performance management on their own phones, and then it would have become clear that the performance drop is actually noticeable.

Also, there should have been feed back from Apple stores to suggest there is in fact an issue - maybe this did happen and it was ignored? Who knows?

Baymowe335 said:
Maybe yes, maybe no. It’s hard to know Apple’a true intent with the software. If you take it at face value, they were trying to make the experience better. They might have thought the slowdown wouldn’t really be noticeable or impactful enough to matter but would ensure no massive piss off factor like turning off randomly.

I think they underestimated how noticeable the performance management would be on a large scale. Every phone runs just a little differently because of all the different situations.
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Here's some food for you

If an iPhone 6 was advertised as x times faster than iPhone 5s, which didn't suffer from this problem, but the 6's battery is degraded and the device is throttled as a result then Apple has made a false claim.

cmaier said:
Was it?
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Apple's own product image:
 

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Let me tell all you Apple fans who are falling over each other to defend Apple in every possible way by coming up with ridiculous statements: nobody asked Apple to replace battery for 29$. All we wanted is Apple to be upfront about it. If they had put a warning sign saying the battery is performing at lowest level, people would have gladly gone to Apple store and got the battery change. What hurt us was that we trusted Apple and Apple screwed our trust. I bet lots of people went and bought new iPhones because of the slow down which improved Apple's bottom line. Did Tim Cook took this into account when he set the quarterly revenue guidance?
 
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Rogifan said:
For all the people complaining saying Apple is intentionally providing a crap experience either because of planned obsolecense or because they don’t care or whatever you’re basically saying Apple customers are iSheep that will keep buying from Apple no matter what their experience is like just because they’re part of a cult or to lazy to buy something else or whatever. What complete and utter nonsense. It’s as stupid as the Apple intentionally restricts supply to create a false sense of demand we get every year iPhone is released. Nonsense. Nonsense. Nonsense.
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Smoke some more purple haze!
 
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clauzzz203 said:
thefredelement said: ↑
Here's some food for you

If an iPhone 6 was advertised as x times faster than iPhone 5s, which didn't suffer from this problem, but the 6's battery is degraded and the device is throttled as a result then Apple has made a false claim.


Apple's own product image:
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Do you know what “up to” means?
 
Mescagnus said:
It could also very well be that there is a problem with your particular iPhone and it has nothing to do with the battery, or iOS 11 in general.

Have you tried a clean install of iOS 11? I'd start with that. If the 6 Plus was still piss poor after that, I'd take it in for diagnostics & repair.
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I admit I have not tried a clean install of iOS 11. I'll try that. But I do experience the exact same issues as my GF who have the same 6+, but her's is 2 years old. It would be weird that a hardware failure should pop up when updating to 11.
 
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