No. Apple: „Shame such a loud minority of our users is so dumb“.
And of course that's their fault too, for making their products (usually) a no-brainer to use.
No. Apple: „Shame such a loud minority of our users is so dumb“.
Making an all inclusive statement like you made doesn't do you any favors. Again, I am not wrong, my personal experience should tell you that. My state doesn't have a yearly inspection. But I am informed, I know to check my tires, pressure, wear, cracks etc. Same goes for my rechargeable batteries.Well you're absolutely wrong. They WILL tell you. At least here in Europe where we have something we call Consumer Protection.
and anyway don't you have to pass inspection every year???
Sorry, I just got done posting other posters on MacRumors have claimed other manufacturers have to the same issue with phones shutting down.apple phones should work like all other battery devices.
Same performance, shorter battery life.
Stop white knighting.
ABS is designed to improve your driving experience though. Slowing down a phone is not an improvement in any way.
This thread is blowing up. And it’s all over the news too. Is this officially now a “gate” lol?
Throttlegate?
While I get your analogy about improving technology, I would not regard the throttling of a CPU for battery preservation a safety issue, unless for some reason the phone shutting down would cause a person injury.
To your analogy, I can tell when ABS is actively controlling the brakes. ABS should be active all the time, though. If it's not, there's an indicator that it's not active.
apple phones should work like all other battery devices.
Same performance, shorter battery life.
Stop white knighting.
So yeah...Apple tells someone the battery is fine and within specification. Then Apple throttling the phone. All you can come up is this BS?
Really? Can you show me cases in the UK were courts have forced manufacturers/vendors to replace sealed batteries for free in 5 to 6 year old devices (or even 2 to 5 year old devices)?
Garbage analogy. The information is widely available of how abs works and I can tell when it is working. No one knew Apple was slowing down phones.ABS is a built-in safety mechanism for cars. Auto shutdown is a built-in safety mechanism for iPhones. Neither the user of the car or the user of the iPhone is going to be specifically aware of the exact scenarios where that safety mechanism is going to activated. And neither safety mechanism is intended to be active all of the time...only in very specific situations. Following that?
Apple then added an additional layer to the safety mechanism for the iPhone that slowed processor speeds instead of activating the auto shutdown. So it's just the evolution of the safety mechanism. Are you personally aware of the evolution of ABS safety mechanisms through the years? Probably not. But that doesn't mean something is being done "behind your back" in a deceptive manner. It's an attempt to improve the technology.
Only my own, my state doesn't have a yearly inspection. But I am informed, I know to check my tires, pressure, wear, cracks etc. Same goes for my rechargeable batteries.
You're right, Apple should have just let that previous phone die and they would have bought a new phone anyway.
Good point. My state doesn't have a yearly inspection either. But I know to check the oil, tire pressure, condition of the wiper blades, windshield fluid. If my tires are worn, it's the rare case I would opt to buy a new car, rather than a set of tires.Making an all inclusive statement like you made doesn't do you any favors. Again, I am not wrong, my personal experience should tell you that. My state doesn't have a yearly inspection. But I am informed, I know to check my tires, pressure, wear, cracks etc. Same goes for my rechargeable batteries.
People could tell their phones were being slowed after installing iOS updates. If there hadn't been a noticeable change afterward, these allegations would have gone nowhere. Instead it turns out that everyone was correct. But the customer doesn't "deserve" to know what's happening to their device? I guess Apple followers really do border on the cult-level sometimes.What annoys me about this and other things like it is that it sets the precedent that an uninformed public can develop an "outcry" over anything get a result out of Apple. Real shame. The public didn't deserve this level of compromise from Apple. Intelligent CPU management of a device powered by lithium-ion battery is expected and appropriate, and really no one's business besides the engineers.
ABS is a built-in safety mechanism for cars. Auto shutdown is a built-in safety mechanism for iPhones. Neither the user of the car or the user of the iPhone is going to be specifically aware of the exact scenarios where that safety mechanism is going to activated. And neither safety mechanism is intended to be active all of the time...only in very specific situations. Following that?
Apple then added an additional layer to the safety mechanism for the iPhone that slowed processor speeds instead of activating the auto shutdown. So it's just the evolution of the safety mechanism. Are you personally aware of the evolution of ABS safety mechanisms through the years? Probably not. But that doesn't mean something is being done "behind your back" in a deceptive manner. It's an attempt to improve the technology.
Making an all inclusive statement like you made doesn't do you any favors. Again, I am not wrong, my personal experience should tell you that. My state doesn't have a yearly inspection. But I am informed, I know to check my tires, pressure, wear, cracks etc. Same goes for my rechargeable batteries.
that's very good for you and bravo!
In most parts of the world in order pass the yearly inspection you need to have tires in good condition.
When you buy new tires they will tell you the mileage.
When I take my BMW (also a bmw owner funny huh?) for service they check my tires (pressure, condition etc)
If my tire pressure is low I get a warning light. There are so many warning lights in a BMW !!! But the horsepower and torque of my car remains the same even if I totally remove the tires from the car))))
Not even a good try.Garbage analogy. The information is widely available of how abs works and I can tell when it is working. No one knew Apple was slowing down phones.
A better analogy would be if your brake pads / rotors starts to wear down the ecu in the car limits the horsepower and torque of the car from 300hp to 150hp. The manufacturer would not tell anyone and when customers go into the dealship saying their car is slow the service advisor says all is good.
ABS is designed to improve your driving experience though. Slowing down a phone is not an improvement in any way.
Why do folks continue to insist that phones and cars are analogous?
Other than their price points are threatening to converge![]()
So you are REQUIRED to change your tires when your car has met a certain mileage? Sure glad my country doesn't have that. (PS, my BMW dealers, yes me too, NEVER told me that tires had to be replaced at a certain mileage. Ever!)that's very good for you and bravo!
In most parts of the world in order pass the yearly inspection you need to have tires in good condition.
When you buy new tires they will tell you the mileage.
When I take my BMW (also a bmw owner funny huh?) for service they check my tires (pressure, condition etc)
If my tire pressure is low I get a warning light. There are so many warning lights in a BMW !!! But the horsepower and torque of my car remains the same even if I totally remove the tires from the car))))
"Apples $1750 iphone is only good for a year at best without expensive servicing due to piss poor battery and CPU matching which they have covered up by clandestinely throttling the CPU to reduce power draw on batteries so that the millions of iphones sold in the last few years to don't become useless bricks overnight from voltage spike shutdowns resulting in massive warranty claims and a ruined reputation for design and quality" - Gate
While I agree that iOS is in need of a facelift/re-design I think that the battery issues are even worse. I've had serious battery issues soon after I got 6s, then Apple replaced the battery for free due to being faulty and now a year later they have throttled my device due to bad battery performance. On top of that the battery level indication is all messed and can go from 40% to 25% in less than a minute and I'm constantly anxious about running out of juice, preventing myself from using my phone when I want to in order make sure I have enough battery for an emergency call at the end of the day. This is beyond crappy user experience that Apple doesn't care to address.Well this has been completely overblown and yet they still make a change. How about all the complainers of battery degradation put their time into complaining about something legit like how the OS is stale and we need a full blown new OS to go along with the future X type devices. There's so40%mething I can get behind.. but battery issues.. psh.. there wasn't anything here to begin with.
How wrong you are. Car engines will degrade too. And over the years they WILL lose horsepower and torque. Does your car dealer tell you that when you’re making the purchase? No. And when you do feel like your car is getting slow and you go back to your dealer, does he or she tell you “oh well your engine is getting old and degraded so performance is dropping” No. So what do you do? Do you rebuilt the engine? Not many people do. Most will just replace their car.
Because all the people that are defending what Apple has done is trying use other analogies as a deflection away from the issue.Why do folks continue to insist that phones and cars are analogous?
Other than their price points are threatening to converge![]()