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Apple to Offer $29 iPhone Battery Replacements, More Battery Health Info in iOS
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Apple faces avalanche of lawsuits over deliberate obsolescence of iPhones - https://www.rt.com/business/414464-apple-more-suits-slowing-iphones/
Apple should remember we brought them to the very top and defended them where appropriate. I am looking forward to 2018.
Good for you but you must understand I just don’t care if you are fine with it.
Yes, if they continue to produce good quality and charge fairly, and do not deliberately slow down without our knowledge. If you respond by saying to prevent shutdowns, my response is well, I should have the choice to either change batteries which numerous have reported was hard to replace - my interpretation is that they deliberately do that so you purchase a new device or slow the device. I am glad this happened and also happy there is Android / Other brands i.e. competition or I would suspect they would charge us £2k for phones.
Relentless Reporter, Wild report says iPhone X price may drop come early 2018 - http://bgr.com/2017/12/26/iphone-x-price-drop-early-2018/
Go on report.
Why are you saying Samsung? It could be any manufacturer that could bring then? Hmm.
I never said about me but I said someone I know is happy with Face ID. Basics is read and re-read if unsure then respond. Honestly, you wasted 30 seconds of my life.
Clearly you have not been on forums or websites to know that there are people who want Touch ID. Where is the fact again? Am I or are you confused.
Just go through my post. You’re making out that Touch ID is no longer useful as it is an older method. Honestly, from what I been reading, I could say the same.
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ABS is a built-in safety mechanism for cars. Auto shutdown is a built-in safety mechanism for iPhones. Neither the user of the car or the user of the iPhone is going to be specifically aware of the exact scenarios where that safety mechanism is going to activated. And neither safety mechanism is intended to be active all of the time...only in very specific situations. Following that?
Apple then added an additional layer to the safety mechanism for the iPhone that slowed processor speeds instead of activating the auto shutdown. So it's just the evolution of the safety mechanism. Are you personally aware of the evolution of ABS safety mechanisms through the years? Probably not. But that doesn't mean something is being done "behind your back" in a deceptive manner. It's an attempt to improve the technology.
Tell this to people who get tricked by Apple and brought a new iPhone? Should they not upset? Oh well... They get a fancy now iPhone, that what matters for Apple's buttom line
Spot on.
It is actually hurting my brain that members of the forum seem hell bent on not thinking this through themselves and just riding the apple groovy train.
If Apple were to keep their update process as it currently is but simply provided an option (not easily accessible) to revert back to the version the device shipped with, that wouldn’t “hold the entire ecosystem back” because there is nothing forcing customers to update their device to the latest version now.
The percentage of customers who would go back is probably equal to those who consciously decide not to update their devices.
unfortunately very seriously simonmet. I have mentioned this before here on macrumors
If I knew a battery would fix a slowdown, I would have replaced it. Duh. When a battery doesn't last long I replace it because I can *see* the problem. The secret slowdown was just that, a secret Apple did not disclose until they were outed.
ABS is designed to improve your driving experience though. Slowing down a phone is not an improvement in any way.
You're right, Apple should have just let that previous phone die and they would have bought a new phone anyway.
That's correct. My expensive TV is only good for one year without expensive refurb and service. My expensive car only has a 3 year warranty and then if a power window motors break, I have to lay out the money to fix it.
Samsung phones are water resistant, yet Samsung won't fix water damaged phones.
What's your point? Apple should have a magical warranty period in place? Well they do, it's called applecare.
While I get your analogy about improving technology, I would not regard the throttling of a CPU for battery preservation a safety issue, unless for some reason the phone shutting down would cause a person injury.
To your analogy, I can tell when ABS is actively controlling the brakes. ABS should be active all the time, though. If it's not, there's an indicator that it's not active.
If you look through the forums, you can find complaints about older Samsung devices shutting off. This is not an issue unique to apple as much as some people would like to believe or spread a false impression.
No, they won't. They may recommend new tires because of wear or problems with your tires. But not because of a "few years or specific number of Km"
I have bought SO many new cars, (35 or more) and NOT ONE DEALER has ever said that. EVER!
which TV did you buy which is good for only a year???? !!!!!!
My expensive car had a warning light that indicates if there's a problem. If a power window breaks it's something I can see with my eyes ..... How is your example related to throttling a phone without ANY warning that this is because of a battery which officially is fine by apple ?
ABS engaging is also very obvious to the driver, unlike throttling without a notification.
Well you're absolutely wrong. They WILL tell you. At least here in Europe where we have something we call Consumer Protection.
and anyway don't you have to pass inspection every year???
Yes but in general those phones have had batteries that are either easier to replace or are user-replaceable and the company hasn’t tried to tell said user they can only get overpriced replacements from them if and when they say you can.
So yeah...Apple tells someone the battery is fine and within specification. Then Apple throttling the phone. All you can come up is this BS?
ABS does nothing to improve your driving experience, unless you consider emergency braking part of your driving experience. What it does do is improve your braking in an hard/emergency situation. Nothing more nothing less.
This is beating a dead horse at this point.
In the fervor to keep "bashing" apple, it opens up an avenue for a counter-argument. That's the way these things go on internet forums.
Point. Counter-point.
There are a lot of consumable items that aren't user replaceable. On a car, for example, can the average consumer replace the timing belts, water pump, ball joints, CV joints, tie rods, wheel bearings, or any other myriad of parts that wear normally over time?
Just because you need someone with special tools and training to perform a repair service doesn't mean that particular part was designed to last a lifetime. A typical battery will degrade significantly over three-to-five years and the consumer should expect the consequences. As long as the batteries meet normal expectations any court will hold they are fit for purpose.
Apple's problem is the batteries weren't even lasting that long and the phones were throttling due to battery insufficiencies after a year or less. You can look at Geekbench and see there are a pretty good number of iPhone 7 devices that are being throttled and the oldest of them would only be 15 months.
apple phones should work like all other battery devices.
Same performance, shorter battery life.
Stop white knighting.