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That is not scientific proof that it does not throttle. You could test it if you wanted . Might be that even throttled you are happy with its performance?
That's what I'm saying. It's not affecting my day to day usage of the phone. When and if "throttling" is an issue I will deal with it.
 
Really? Which phones? are there concrete proof the phone manufacturer throttles the phones to make up for bad batteries and chipset technology? Are there class action lawsuits? Please show me your data.

I said they don’t do anything and just let the devices die.
 
So Apple should start selling new iPhones with iOS 9 and 10? Stop providing updates after 2 years (or less)? Make users of brand-new flagship $800+ phones wait 6 months for the latest OS? Artificially increase performance when benchmark Apps are detected to make their phones appear faster than they are? Sell new flagships (Note 8) that need to be replaced if the battery hits 0% and won’t charge?

Stop for a sec. To counter most of that.......how is iOS 11 working out ?

Mate, us apple fans cannot be smug right now, iOS 11 is a cluster****

Many here would happily take an iPhone with iOS 10 , retail today,
 
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So Apple should start selling new iPhones with iOS 9 and 10? Stop providing updates after 2 years (or less)? Make users of brand-new flagship $800+ phones wait 6 months for the latest OS? Artificially increase performance when benchmark Apps are detected to make their phones appear faster than they are? Sell new flagships (Note 8) that need to be replaced if the battery hits 0% and won’t charge?
I really don’t care about updates if they slow down my device or impair its function in any way. For your information my iPad Pro 2017 is on iOS 10 and my iPhone X will stay on iOS 11 forever now that i know what Apple does.

And as far as artificially increase clock speed when Geekbench is run Apple could also do it after this fiasco considering how they tried to secretly hide this throttling issue.
 
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That's what I'm saying. It's not affecting my day to day usage of the phone. When and if "throttling" is an issue I will deal with it.

My point is that it might already be happening and you are not aware of it , does not mean it does not exist.
 
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The mechanic SHOULD AT LEAST give you the option of what you wanna do. Apple thought they knew what was best for us and took that option away..


James

Yes I would have to agree with you. But I was more concerned about the fact that he didn’t seem to think that internal combustion engines can and will degrade over time and lose horsepower
 
The only reason we know about iphones, is apple said they implemented a fix in IOS. With respect to android, you cannot say or not, if this is a dirty secret, only people are reporting shutdowns.

Samsung is under intense media scrutiny just like Apple. If something like this was happening it would be the Note 7 all over again but so far no widespread reports.
 
There is also no such issue on Reddit or any of the notable Android forums I frequent which have users with older phones. This battery issue exploded on Reddit in the iOS subreddit within a day.
People have been complaining about android shutdowns for years regardless of what is posted on reddit.
 
Yes I would have to agree with you. But I was more concerned about the fact that he didn’t seem to think that internal combustion engines can and will degrade over time and lose horsepower

and as I mentioned before it's a few hp in a few years.. not 60% cpu power in a little over a year ..thanks for your concern though ;)
 
I said they don’t do anything and just let the devices die.
again....what proof and what phones? I have had a lot of other phones that the battery life degrades over time.....sure that is normal. Apple admitted they throttle iphones because if they did not the phone would shut down under normal to heavy load. Why not just have the phone work as normal and just have to charge it more often? because they used inferior battery technology with regards to the chipset. So what happens is the phone could just shutdown unexpectedly.
So to make up for the defect...they throttled the phone instead......
 
The only reason we know about iphones, is apple said they implemented a fix in IOS. With respect to android, you cannot say or not, if this is a dirty secret, only people are reporting shutdowns.

Yes batteries fail for all devices. Nothing to do with android or iOS.

Just make sure you are clear in your posts when you said android, you mean batteries in general and not throttling .
 
My point is that it might already be happening and you are not aware of it , does not mean it does not exist.
And it's not worth my while to pay for an app to figure out if it is or is not happening. It's not worth the time or money to fix something that to me is not broken.
 
and as I mentioned before it's a few hp in a few years.. not 60% cpu power in a little over a year ..thanks for your concern though ;)

Did you even consider the fact that aN automobile is meant to last tens of years and a mobile phone is probably like 2-4 years? Did you even scale up your example correctly? No you didn’t.

And not forgetting the fact that you confidently exclaimed that your vehicle will not lose a single horsepower over time.

And how the hell did you even come up with the figure of a 60% reduction in performance for an iPhone with degraded battery and software throttling? This is totally bizarre.
 
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Yes batteries fail for all devices. Nothing to do with android or iOS.

Just make sure you are clear in your posts when you said android, you mean batteries in general and not throttling .
That is the point I am trying to make. I am not claiming android implements "throttling", I am saying people are(and have been) reporting random shutdowns.
 



Apple this afternoon addressed customer concerns about an ongoing controversy over power management features in older iPhones, pledging to introduce more detailed information about battery health and reducing the price of battery replacements for all of 2018.

In a letter explaining its policies, Apple apologizes for the misinformation that's been spread and says that it would never "intentionally shorten the life of any Apple product, or degrade the user experience to drive customer upgrades."

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At issue is a power management feature that was initially introduced in iOS 10.2.1 in the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6s, which was implemented to prevent unexpected shutdowns due to high power draw peaks. Apple's lack of clarity about the feature has led to a number of lawsuits being filed in recent days claiming that Apple is purposefully slowing down older iPhones.

Apple explains the situation and the aging of batteries both in the letter and in a new support document.These power management features are implemented in the iPhone 6, iPhone 6 Plus, iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, and iPhone 7 Plus, and will be added to future iPhones as required. They kick in when the battery begins to degrade and can be fixed with a new battery.

Apple says it began to receive feedback this fall from customers who were seeing slower speeds, which it initially thought might be due to software updates and minor bugs in iOS 11, but it now believes the continued chemical aging of the batteries in older devices is at fault.

To allay customer concerns and address recent customer feedback, Apple says it will implement several changes.

- The price for out-of-warranty iPhone battery replacements is being dropped from $79 to $29, starting in late January and lasting through December 2018. Apple plans to provide more information on the price drop in the near future, but it will apply to anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced.

- In early 2018, an iOS update will introduce new features to give users more visibility into the health of their iPhone's battery, so they can clearly see whether the state of the battery is affecting performance.

Apple says its team is also always working on ways to make the user experience better, including how performance is managed to avoid unexpected shutdowns as batteries age.

Article Link: Apple to Offer $29 iPhone Battery Replacements, More Battery Health Info in iOS

Is the same "hiding out on giving consumer information" scheme also in place for other battery operated Apple dvices like a $3,000 MacbookPro?
 
A poster on a forum does not mean Android is affected .

Please provide proof that android has this throttling ..... you have claimed this a few times on this thread, please provide proofs

An electronic device having random shutdowns .... my nokia 6100 also affected ;)


"the power hint caps [THROTTLES] the maximum frequencies of the CPU"
https://source.android.com/devices/tech/power/performance

"Android continually adds new features and optimizations [SAME AS APPLE] to help the platform optimize the off-charger behavior of applications and devices"

https://source.android.com/devices/tech/power/mgmt
 
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The only reason we know about iphones, is apple said they implemented a fix in IOS. With respect to android, you cannot say or not, if this is a dirty secret, only people are reporting shutdowns.

Which android phones are affected? From what I know some manufacturers already mentioned that they do not throttle their phones.

And the only reason we know about iphones is not because Apple said it. It's because Apple users found it out with evidence and Apple had to eventually verify it. I haven't seen any similar evidence from Android users. Can you please show us?

Plus Android is mostly open source..nothing hidden from users...
 
People have been complaining about android shutdowns for years regardless of what is posted on reddit.
That’s all happened with iPhones. Point is no company had to issue a public statement on this. Also Samsung has the vast majority of devices in Android and with this huge market share you can bet this issue will be blown up much more than it was for Apple.
 
That is the point I am trying to make. I am not claiming android implements "throttling", I am saying people are(and have been) reporting random shutdowns.


Totally agree. Just go google. It isn’t that hard to find gazillions of examples of flagship smartphones just randomly shutting down. Yes they ain’t throttling their cpu. But is their phone better? Well wait till you need your phone urgently and it shuts down for no good reason and let me know if you think it’s better.
 
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