Apple should allow people who bought new phones because their iPhone 6 had gotten so slow it was useless a full refund on the new phone even though it is well past the 14 days.
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Apple to Offer $29 iPhone Battery Replacements, More Battery Health Info in iOS
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Yes it’s open source. But how many will know how to fully utilise the openness of it to find out every single geeky details of their phones? Quite definitely the minority
Android says it throttles/caps CPUs, and it adds 'optimizations' all the time. This is not just an Apple issue. It's battery tech.
"the power hint caps [THROTTLES] the maximum frequencies of the CPU"
https://source.android.com/devices/tech/power/performance
"Android continually adds new features and optimizations [SAME AS APPLE] to help the platform optimize the off-charger behavior of applications and devices"
https://source.android.com/devices/tech/power/mgmt
I just can't agree with the conspiracy theories that Apple is trying to force it's users to buy new phones. They actually did the opposite of that buy prolonging the life of phones with bad batteries. Why does the phone shut down? When electronic components don't get enough charge from a bad battery, they shut down. Well that's sort of what they did, they allowed it to function while not drawing as much power.
THEY DO THROTTLE CPU
"the power hint caps [THROTTLES] the maximum frequencies of the CPU"
https://source.android.com/devices/tech/power/performance
"Android continually adds new features and optimizations [SAME AS APPLE] to help the platform optimize the off-charger behavior of applications and devices"
https://source.android.com/devices/tech/power/mgmt
Can you show me a newspaper article reporting on the free replacement of a sealed battery in a 2 to 6 year old device? Have you any indication that any such replacement took place that goes beyond a voluntary, goodwill gesture?
Or are you just speculating that such things must have taken place based your interpretation of the ‘sales of goods act’?
Agree. Though this has always happened, for any device that had a battery. This was just uncovered now , I can think back to the 1990s to today
That’s not permanent throttling. It’s throtlting when the processor is not being used. Apple has permanently throttled certain phones.
Correct......
Samsung
https://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-and-lg-also-claim-not-slow-down-phones-older-batteries
Only Apple admits they intentionally throttle phones in their software upgrades.....
Your car and phone comparison is just a bad analogy to begin with.
We know battery degrades over time just like an internal combustion engine does (even though you can rebuild the engine if you have time and money.)
I certainly haven't heard any car manufacturer advertising a car having 200 horsepower but neglect to tell customer"hey, after x number of years, it will only have 100 horsepower. We do this to prolong the life of your vehicle. Oh and since we already know you prefer longevity over performance, we will not tell you about our practice unless you find out."
SERIOUSLY???? Any mobile should last more than 2-4 years!!! I do NOT expect it to work as day one but it shouldn't totally fail after a few years!!!! Same goes for any device. Same for cars.
Plus it's a lie what you're claiming that I claimed a car will not lose a single hp over time. Show me my post and stop changing people's words. I said a car will lose a few horses in a few years. Not 60% which is the CPU power that an iphone loses.
An iphone loses power in one year. I have never seen any super expensive car loosing the same percentage of hp even in 4-5 years.
My scale is fine Sir , probably you don't understand anything from cars and please stop your non sense analogies. I never had a similar problem with my cars and I have changed a lot...
PS. regarding the 60% check some online benchmarks.. I'm tired replying to your posts
You are pointing to the wrong tree.
The issue is throttling due to battery condition(health)
It is that simple.
Nothing, and i mean NOTHING to do with cpu management during normal use.
You do realize this has nothing to do with what apple is doing here ?
Apple also has nice pages in relation to power management
I said engines will degrade. I did not specify the time scale. For you to feel a noticeable difference it’s probably about 8-10 years down the road. The car is still mostly fine. Just like a phone at 2 years old. Do you even get it?
And the phone did not totally fail. It’s usable, just slower. You, sir, need to re-evaluate the way you compare phones to cars in relation to their usable and intended lifespan.
Apple isn't permanently throttling anything. Read their statement.
But why doesn't that happen to other devices then? i hear you and see what you mean...but normal battery behavior would be to need to be charged more often as it degrades then right?
Why does the iphone shutdown? Why not just work as normal and just need to be charged more often?
He (and the others) cetainly do.
The best way to derail a discussion is to turn it into an argument...
Exactly! I've been saying this to everyone. And why are others not asking the same logical question? If the capacity to hold a charge becomes less over the years, as one would expect, why is the actual phone performance going through a complete meltdown with random shutdowns? Why doesn't the phone just perform as usual, but just end up having less usable time? That's what less charging capacity batteries should do. It's like that for other phones. There's definitely more to this than Apple is saying. I think when the class actions go through, we might find out more. Perhaps Apple was quick to offer this discounted battery replacement to stop people from enquiring more into this.
The benchmarks are showing certain iPhone 7 and 6s are permanently throttled. Whenever you run Geekbench or any benchmark app it scores half of what the phone should.
The throttling you are talking about is also happening on iPhone X. Every processor throttles itself when doing basic tasks or when full power is not needed.
iOS 11 has worked great for us and the numerous devices in our household (prior to updating 4 of them to the iPhone X).
Did I notice an odd glitch here and there? Yes, but all minor (like text misalignments when rotating the phone or an occasional stutter). Nothing that affected my ability to use my devices and nothing that prevented the Apps I rely on from working properly. And these have all disappeared with recent updates.