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For the $29 price, I am wondering about the wording "for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced".

Who determines whether the battery needs to be replaced and will Apple limit the $29 replacement to phones based on battery condition?
 
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So according to you guys here championing apple, the iphone needs a 100% healthy battery to function properly and that apple are only on the hook to ensure this works for 12 months warranty and this is how Apple designed it to be?

Intetesting

How much does this premium smartphone experience cost again?

Nothing like fabricating things to try and make an argument. Where did people say you need a 100% battery? In fact, otherswith year-old 7’s have already stated their devices benchmark at the highest performance level.

You have any facts to bring? Or do you want to continue making stuff up?
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Let me please repeat a few questions.

Can you please explain the following?

1. Why my iphone is throttled when plugged in?
2. Why Apple diagnosed my failing battery as "fine" and refused to replace it? I was willing to pay
3. What was I supposed to do when the Apple genius told me that my iphone was so super slow because it's old and NOT because it's the battery?
4. How was I supposed to know the phone was slow because of my battery when I was told otherwise?

I would like to have your lights here please

Why are you responding to my post, which had nothing to do with battery health or throttling? Try and keep up.
 
Fixed it now :) stupid auto spell ha ha, that’s on my 6S and the latest iOS 11, I find it better then androids auto spell though, I use it as an excuse to myself to get an iPhone X because it’s keyboard will be slightly bigger haha.

Yes I will still keep using the iPhone despite this battery issue, because I like them. I plan on keeping my 6S though still just in case. It doesn’t slow down for me.
I’ll have to run those checks to see what capacity my battery is at.

My 6S has just over 200 cycles, is about 15 months old and 93% health, it's throttling at times, but I don't really notice.
Thought about buying the X quite a few times, I can easily afford it but I just can't justify the high price, I'll probably buy it in SouthEast Asia soon, much cheaper there.
 
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My 6S has just over 200 cycles, is about 15 months old and 93% health, it's throttling at times, but I don't really notice.
Thought about buying the X quite a few times, I can easily afford it but I just can't justify the high price, I'll probably buy it in SouthEast Asia soon, much cheaper there.

Wait what?! At 93% health, it's already being throttled? This is beginning to sound more like a design flaw. This whole BS sounds like a cover-up for a hardware/design issue. A brand new spanking phone degrades as fast as the battery does. Lovely.... and people buy 1k for this feature? Facepalm
 
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The 6s was my worst phone ever. The first battery was part of the recall and the replacement was only marginally better.

Thankfully I got it with insurance at Costco and they sent me a cheque for a replacement (got the 8plus).

If it wasn’t for the fact I currently use iCloud so much I would have tried Android again.
 
For the $29 price, I am wondering about the wording "for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced".

Who determines whether the battery needs to be replaced and will Apple limit the $29 replacement to phones based on battery condition?

Apple of course

They already handle it that way

Some members here reportedly have been turned down when asking for a battery replacement and offering to pay for it

If diagnostics say your battery is good they will not change the battery for you

Let’s hope they fine tune their diagnostics software ....
 
For the $29 price, I am wondering about the wording "for anyone with an iPhone 6 or later whose battery needs to be replaced".

Who determines whether the battery needs to be replaced and will Apple limit the $29 replacement to phones based on battery condition?

They will replace your battery if it fails their diagnostic test!



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I'm saying the battery is defective and should be replaced ! Putting the iPhone into cripple mode should only be a temporary measure until you get the phone to a retail store for battery replacement . The issue here is that Apple turned a temporary safeguard .....safeguard ....into situation normal ....

Read this link...

http://mglenn.com/blog/2017/12/22/apples-bungled-battery-feature

If what you're claiming is true, how would it be possible for this guy to solve the performance issues on his 6s running iOS 11 through a simple backup, wipe, and restore? The battery had nothing to do with it. Apple's changes in the OS to prevent auto shutdowns had nothing to do with it. That seems to throw a wrench into the idea that an iPhone running slower automatically = CPU throttling by Apple.
 
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Tell me the facts pointing to it being a garbage release?

Do you understand statistics? Do you know what a “representative sample” is? Do you understand how ridiculous it is for you to point me to a support forum as evidence that it’s garbage

Says the guys using his household as counter proof.... do you know how ridiculous it sounds.

On stats , the MR iOS forum is a far far far appropriate representation sample than your household .

The only facts. You says its great , I say it crap. Stick to that !
 
Wait what?! At 93% health, it's already being throttled? This is beginning to sound more like a design flaw. This whole BS sounds like a cover-up for a hardware/design issue. A brand new spanking phone degrades as fast as the battery does. Lovely.... and people buy 1k for this feature? Facepalm

Yes, and I posted prove of that yesterday, I checked about 30 minutes ago when it was charging, speed was ~1515 MHz while it should be 1848 MHz
 
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On your iPhone, go to Settings/Battery. Look to see if there is an ALERT at the top of the screen. If present, the alert will say: “Your iPhone battery may need to be serviced.” If your iPhone doesn't show that alert, then it is highly unlikely that Apple will replace your iPhone's battery.

Source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207453

Mark

Yeah, when that finally shows up your phone has been happily throttling for 5 years minimum and the battery is so worn you can be grateful the phone still boots and you make it to the alert in time ..
 
I’m of the opinion that my 6 remains prefectly functional for 100% of its intended uses and, as a consequence, I’d prefer to stick my upgrades into my iPad and MBP, where performance is a much larger issue. The traditional 2 year upgrade cycle hocked by device manufacturers has certainly made Apple a lot of money, but I fail to see it’s practically from a consumer standpoint. My goal when purchasing this phone was 4 solid years of use and I’ll have made that this fall, with my runtime only recently having begun to degrade. (She gets a full charge every night and whenever I’m in the car. Per the battery life app, my current wear level is low-average, running 9%-14% below capacity.) That said, I would gladly pay $29 for a battery replacement if I thought it could get another 1-2 years out of her.
 
Check the cycles and other details with Coconut. If you think it doesn't hold up, you should go to the nearest Apple Store and have them do the diagnostics. With the price of just $29, I think it isn't so bad as it was before.
I don't see any such app in the store even though it offers it as a search parameter.
 
Read this link...

http://mglenn.com/blog/2017/12/22/apples-bungled-battery-feature

If what you're claiming is true, how would it be possible for this guy to solve the performance issues on his 6s running iOS 11 through a simple backup, wipe, and restore? The battery had nothing to do with it. Apple's changes in the OS to prevent auto shutdowns had nothing to do with it. That seems to throw a wrench into the idea that an iPhone running slower automatically = CPU throttling by Apple.

That's standard procedure when you visit a genius , they ask you to do that . In certain situation it solves issues . His issues were also with battery drain and not throttling .
 
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I’m of the opinion that my 6 remains prefectly functional for 100% of its intended uses and, as a consequence, I’d prefer to stick my upgrades into my iPad and MBP, where performance is a much larger issue. The traditional 2 year upgrade cycle hocked by device manufacturers has certainly made Apple a lot of money, but I fail to see it’s practically from a consumer standpoint. My goal when purchasing this phone was 4 solid years of use and I’ll have made that this fall, with my runtime only recently having begun to degrade. (She gets a full charge every night and whenever I’m in the car. Per the battery life app, my current wear level is low-average, running 9%-14% below capacity.) That said, I would gladly pay $29 for a battery replacement if I thought it could get another 1-2 years out of her.

ehh...Apple has been pushing the annual upgrade cycle for years.
 
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My observation is from using the phone for a year. e.g. camera app opens nearly instantly, apps open quickly etc. If I felt the phone was "dragging" I would definitely bring it into apple.

And until this discovery by third-party, Apple would have reported that there was nothing wrong with your device. ;)

Even if your battery is worn below the 80% (which it doesn't need to for throttling to be happening), they'd have told you that the battery health has absolutely nothing to do with performance.
 
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This could not be farther from what they did. What they did was develop to a standard power and that power was say 3.7 V at 1.4 Amp. The battery even at 80% should produce said voltage. They accepted a margin that was far to close to said possible values. Then if you hit max load you get a sag and that kills all things due to errors and a system fault occurs. They fixed this edge case with a battery power management fix. The issue is the edge case is no longer so much edge and is a normal case now. So you have iPhones slowing down in larger numbers. They are not initially slowing down your phone. This power management edge case protection should have existed from day one. The fact it did not have it surprises the hell out of me. The issue is the power rating of the SOC to the battery degraded output. This I am sure was defined clearly in the specs sheet to the production team. They did the best to make sure all met this but hey batteries are well very error prone. So here we are with a margin to tight and a newly rushed and unturned powermangement fix throttling phones with 85% health remaining per the old test which I think was just based on capacity and not voltage output. The new test I am sure will do a quick SOC ramp to full load and if the throttling occurs with in the warranty / care period you will get a new battery. This is how it should have been from the get go. The issue was they had never played so close to the battery margins till the 6 design. So this is why we have this issue. This was not initial slow down. This was a production fault spread out in a random sample of devices. Then a power management fix to prevent sudden death. The degradation spreading with age in a handset that does not have a battery test that correctly indicated when to replace. The whole thing is one giant edge case of errors. The fix is very simple and should have been trotted out long before now. They should have offered the 29 buck battery from day 1. They should also have said if your in warranty its free period with a proper throttle test. Then as the battery ages 29 bucks for the life span period. Then in the future build with a slightly higher margin. The thing is people are going to wig out over this due to horrible messaging and lack of being stand up. The issue is actually on all devices even android. They just have power management baked in better so they just flat line in 30 minutes. Apple I hope learns a lesson on power management and how it can com back to bite them years latter and plans for the phones wear period beyond 12 months
Very insightful comment. However, I am not so sure that Apple didn't intentionally design it this way in order to push people to upgrade their phones instead of replace the battery. They designed in either a shorter battery run time with no performance hit or a longer battery run time with a performance hit while hiding the battery upgrade option/warranty claim option which results in lots of upgrades to new phones. Sure looks like planned obsolescence to me.
 
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Well good on Apple. Most other tech companies wouldn’t even respond as most of them do not support their older products like Apple. I can imagine complaining to samsung about the S6 or S7 and Samsung would say sorry we are too busy trying to sell you the note 8 and developing the S9.

Apple still sells the 6 and 7 iPhones so they are technically not older products, they are current products that Apple would only be wise to still support.
 
Nothing like fabricating things to try and make an argument. Where did people say you need a 100% battery? In fact, otherswith year-old 7’s have already stated their devices benchmark at the highest performance level.

You have any facts to bring? Or do you want to continue making stuff up?
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Why are you responding to my post, which had nothing to do with battery health or throttling? Try and keep up.
Nit picking at numbers.

Tut-tut.
 
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