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That''s interesting, thanks. Wonder what "health" is exactly from a concrete physical measurement? Number of cycles remaining?

Not scientific...but if you subtract the 7 due to its newness relative to the others, I see a disturbing trend from the older 5s health to the newer 6s health. Are there any formal studies anyone can link to that compare the trend in health over time for Apple's iPhone batteries?

Well, this is anecdotal most likely, but... my iPhone 6 and 7+ have been used close to the same amount of time. Give or take a month or two. I guess I'll see how my 7+ works out in relation to the way the 6s managed.
 
Apple banished all those battery health apps right about the time this throttling came about. Coincidence, I don’t think so.

This will be Apple’s version of dieselgate.

Ya, certainly takes them down a notch to Apple-bee's.

This is truly a tale of being penny-wise and pound foolish. ESPECIALLY, because Apple was sitting on the biggest pile of money the world has ever seen.

Guess Karma is a battery, Tim.
 
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My S0 Apple Watch battery is slow and the battery life sucks after 3 years too.

Is this apples fault too? Can they replace the battery for $29 instead of $79?!

My battery and Apple Watch speed is supposed to last forever like the day I bought it!

#internetangry
 
Apple doesn’t use any different battery technology. Lithium ion batteries are the same all over the planet and we’ve been using the same battery technology since at least the last decade. That includes phones, laptops and even battery operated cars. Apple is the only consumer manufacturer that gets scrutinised for everything. I’ve had android devices that died suddenly.

Yes, more or less, but it improved a bit.
There are differences though, buy a cheap 18650 cell on Ebay and find out right away they are inferior.
 
Yeah, it's fantastic! I come back from time to time to help out my fellow brothers and sisters who haven't seen the light yet. Glad to be of service. It's a lot easier to switch than most people think, and that was holding me back. But it's really so easy and fun!

You just power up the Pixel 2, plug your iPhone into your Pixel 2 with the included adapter, answer 'trust' on the iPhone, and the Pixel 2 copies over all your photos, contacts, even apps - it finds the apps on the Play store and loads them up for you! Even your wallpaper is transferred over! I'll tell you, there's a hell of a lot more innovation happening at Google than at Apple where they seem to be stagnant and afraid to do anything. So boring, same old same old.

And the camera on the Pixel 2 is magical! Way better quality than what I had on the iPhone.

I can go on forever but your best bet would be to watch some youtube videos and head over to a Verizon store and try one out for yourself.

I keep an eye on Android, but have never been given a good reason to switch. It comes down to value. I value performance, security, privacy, ecosystem, apps, and support. This is something Android simply can't provide. Sounds like a good option on your end though. Do you want to come back to iOS? Why do you frequent the forums?
 
Apple doesn’t use any different battery technology. Lithium ion batteries are the same all over the planet and we’ve been using the same battery technology since at least the last decade. That includes phones, laptops and even battery operated cars. Apple is the only consumer manufacturer that gets scrutinised for everything. I’ve had android devices that died suddenly.
False..........Apple throttles their phones to keep them from suddenly shutting down. They are using inferior battery technology and CPU voltage threading.
Other phone makers don't have this problem.....they let the battery degrade as normal. Then the consumer can decide if they need to replace the battery of buy a new device.
Having a phone die suddenly as you said is not the same as a systematic plan to throttle phones to cover up a defect in their battery technology.
 
No, as I said before a couple of posts ago.

And it shouldn't.

"As that battery ages, iOS will check its responsiveness and effectiveness actively. At a point when it becomes unable to give the processor all the power it needs to hit a peak of power, the requests will be spread out over a few cycles.

Remember, benchmarks, which are artificial tests of a system’s performance levels, will looklike peaks and valleys to the system, which will then trigger this effect. In other words, you’re always going to be triggering this when you run a benchmark, but you definitely will not always trigger this effect when you’re using your iPhone like normal.

Apple will continue to add this smoothing to more devices over time to avoid shutdown issues, freezing and other problems.

It’s important to note that this is a lithium-ion chemistry issue, not an Apple issue. Batteries just get crappy over time. This is an attempt to make your phone work for longer with less issues, not to get you to switch away from it."

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/20/a...ones-with-older-batteries-are-running-slower/
 
The class action lawsuit should be continued as many customers have upgraded their phones and shelled out considerable amount of money (at least 500$) when this problem could have been fixed by $79 battery upgrade. There is no other way to confront Apple and change their attitude besides such lawsuits. I am glad I moved to S8. But I feel bad for the rest of my family who are using 3 iphones.. 2 of them are iP6 and iP6+ which are running dog slow! It's time for Apple to learn and also Tim Cook to stop coming up with ways to generate profits by backstabbing the loyal customers!

Yes the class action lawsuit WILL
Continue. And by the end of this ordeal it will be one of biggest class action lawsuits in the history of the tech sector.
 
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does the throttling affect iPads aswell?

The power Management Feature is built into iOS since 10.2.1 and can affect any iOS device running 10.2.1 or later

If throttling or other features kick in depends on how iOS interprets the state of you battery

Theoretically yes, this can happen with iPads or iPods too

Practically though I wouldn’t expect to see much need for power regulation in iPads presuming they have larger margins thanks to bigger batteries

iPods are tiny and thin but do not have one major power drain: a cellular connection . That might save them
 
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And it shouldn't.

"As that battery ages, iOS will check its responsiveness and effectiveness actively. At a point when it becomes unable to give the processor all the power it needs to hit a peak of power, the requests will be spread out over a few cycles.

Remember, benchmarks, which are artificial tests of a system’s performance levels, will looklike peaks and valleys to the system, which will then trigger this effect. In other words, you’re always going to be triggering this when you run a benchmark, but you definitely will not always trigger this effect when you’re using your iPhone like normal.

Apple will continue to add this smoothing to more devices over time to avoid shutdown issues, freezing and other problems.

It’s important to note that this is a lithium-ion chemistry issue, not an Apple issue. Batteries just get crappy over time. This is an attempt to make your phone work for longer with less issues, not to get you to switch away from it."

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/20/a...ones-with-older-batteries-are-running-slower/

Agreed, I am ok with it as long as my 6S performs like it does now.


iPods are tiny and thin but do not have one major power drain: a cellular connection . That might save them


The screen draws most of the power, cellular connection used to be long time ago but isn't anymore.
 
Yes the class action lawsuit WILL
Continue. And by the end of this ordeal it will be one of biggest class action lawsuits in the history of the tech sector.
You're right...it could be......just because of the sheer number of iPhones sold.
I am surprised that there aren't more class action suits over all the battery replacements that were done at full price.....
 
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Remember, benchmarks, which are artificial tests of a system’s performance levels, will looklike peaks and valleys to the system, which will then trigger this effect. In other words, you’re always going to be triggering this when you run a benchmark, but you definitely will not always trigger this effect when you’re using your iPhone like normal.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/20/a...ones-with-older-batteries-are-running-slower/

If that in bold above is really the case, then why did my 6s run all the time at 911 MHz until I replaced the battery a couple weeks ago? Immediately went to 1848 MHz after replacement and has stayed there ever since. Seen same thing on friends phone that was running at 600 MHz.

CPUDasher isn’t a benchmark program.
 
You're right...it could be......just because of the sheer number of iPhones sold.

It won't be. Apple doesn't bluff when making public statements like this about technology. They know they can prove what they've said about how the throttling actually works.
 
And it shouldn't.

"As that battery ages, iOS will check its responsiveness and effectiveness actively. At a point when it becomes unable to give the processor all the power it needs to hit a peak of power, the requests will be spread out over a few cycles.

Remember, benchmarks, which are artificial tests of a system’s performance levels, will looklike peaks and valleys to the system, which will then trigger this effect. In other words, you’re always going to be triggering this when you run a benchmark, but you definitely will not always trigger this effect when you’re using your iPhone like normal.

Apple will continue to add this smoothing to more devices over time to avoid shutdown issues, freezing and other problems.

It’s important to note that this is a lithium-ion chemistry issue, not an Apple issue. Batteries just get crappy over time. This is an attempt to make your phone work for longer with less issues, not to get you to switch away from it."

https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/20/a...ones-with-older-batteries-are-running-slower/
You seem to this the point here. I take your point about benchmarks.
I understand that the apps used, not necessarily Geekbench are reporting cpu speeds and not stressing the phone.
 
My S0 Apple Watch battery is slow and the battery life sucks after 3 years too.

Is this apples fault too? Can they replace the battery for $29 instead of $79?!

My battery and Apple Watch speed is supposed to last forever like the day I bought it!

#internetangry

Your battery is slow?? I think you have another problem all together...... slow batteries .... trouble ;)
 
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It won't be. Apple doesn't bluff when making public statements like this about technology. They know they can prove what they've said about how the throttling actually works.

You remember , "you are holding it wrong" ? Geez they tried to prove it was all fine , some accepted the excuses etc etc .... and come the 4S the antennae was redesigned to fix the issues.

Same will happen here . Upto you if you accept the new "you are holding it wrong "
 
Then why are all iPhone 7 not being throttled on benchmarks. My iPhone 7 is benching at full speed on Geekbench and Antutu.

Because your iPhone 7 battery is still healthy enough. No need to protect the phone from an unwanted shutdown by throttling it.
 
You remember , "you are holding it wrong" ? Geez they tried to prove it was all fine , some accepted the excuses etc etc .... and come the 4S the antennae was redesigned to fix the issues.

Same will happen here . Upto you if you accept the new "you are holding it wrong "

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison considering you can swap out the battery and “issue” is resolved. You couldn't swap out the case of the iPhone to fix the antennae issue. The only way to fix that antennae issue really was to buy a new iPhone lol.
 
Exactly.

It’s a battery issue not a hardware/software issue lol.

What speed does your battery run at ? Does the CPU throttle your battery speed at any point ? We need to get to the bottom of your AW issues!!! :)
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Not exactly an apples to apples comparison considering you can swap out the battery and “issue” is resolved. You couldn't swap out the case of the iPhone to fix the antennae issue. The only way to fix that antennae issue really was to buy a new iPhone lol.

The point here is that Apple does not always have a credible explanation for an issue , but geez they will try to BS, and never ever admit fault ....
 
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Not exactly an apples to apples comparison considering you can swap out the battery and “issue” is resolved. You couldn't swap out the case of the iPhone to fix the antennae issue. The only way to fix that antennae issue really was to buy a new iPhone lol.
It was in response to your statement about Apple not bluffing.
Here’s another;
“I give you the new Mac Pro, the worlds first 64 bit desktop.”
Move on a few years and guess what, it’s 32 bit EFI prevents it from running Mountain Lion natively.
 
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