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Apple to Offer a CDMA (Verizon) Version of Next iPad?
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Those stats aren't made up. And how are CDMA data subscribers not real subscribers??? Those networks exist and some of them are expanding. Yes, Canada and Australia pulled down their CDMA networks, but other coutries are actually adding CDMA subscribers faster than GSM (China).
Either way, the future is in LTE. Both CDMA and WCDMA will eventually be retired, just as their predecessors were. The march of technological innovation continues as always.
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Damn! Why not one version that fits all networks?? There are cellphones that work on all the major cell technologies. So why not the iPad too? And the iPhone? 
Damn! Why not one version that fits all networks?? There are cellphones that work on all the major cell technologies. So why not the iPad too? And the iPhone?
Wouldn't that make a more expensive device?
It would be cheaper for me in the long run if say I start out on one network and then for whatever reason (coverage, rates, etc) need/want to switch to the other network.
Damn! Why not one version that fits all networks?? There are cellphones that work on all the major cell technologies. So why not the iPad too? And the iPhone?
As with anything Apple does, this is very likely the issue. That or the chips are too power hungry and will kill battery life. Perhaps this solution pleases the carriers as well? But I still lean towards "profit" as the motivation.
Damn! Why not one version that fits all networks?? There are cellphones that work on all the major cell technologies. So why not the iPad too? And the iPhone?
Remember too... Apple sees battery life and device size as sacred ground... as well as cost of goods. I'm sure there is a factor that would stop them. I don't believe Apple just leaves things out to make us mad or their life more complicated without a reason.
Either way, if they offer both, people will at least have a choice. Choice is good.
The worldphones that cover both GSM and CDMA don't have great price-performance and tend to be bulkier. They are pricier due to licensing fees for multiple network technologies and they only basically only handle voice, no data.Damn! Why not one version that fits all networks?? There are cellphones that work on all the major cell technologies. So why not the iPad too? And the iPhone?
Looking at the teardowns of the iPad, it appears that the cellular and GPS chips are on a daughtercard. It is more likely that Apple would just create a CDMA daughtercard. That would keep COGS down and Apple's margins are relatively thin (for them) with the iPad.
Yes, the reality has been quite different from the common GSM-billions myth around here.
GSM might be used more around the world, but that has not always translated directly into similar mass iPhone or iPad sales, especially in third world countries.
Why? Because many people in the world cannot afford such a device and/or its data plan. For example: 1 billion mostly poor people in India = only 50,000 iPhone sales.
The fact is, a CDMA iPhone, even if sold only in the USA, can end up accounting for a large chunk of world sales.
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But those numbers don't say anything about the percentage of the market, gsm could have grown ten times as much for all I can tell
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But those numbers don't say anything about the percentage of the market, gsm could have grown ten times as much for all I can tell
Where do you guys keep getting your information?
http://www.gsmworld.com/technology/lte.htm
"Designed to be backwards-compatible with GSM and HSPA"
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CDMA in China is not the same as CDMA in the US. In China, devices use a R/UIM card which is functionally identical to a SIM card. Chinese devices also are supported by better ISPs which allow for real time video on demand unlike here in the US.
US CDMA devices are a bastardized version, and if you want to bring a CDMA device from another provider, most likely you won't be able to, as it tends to be the case that no US CDMA provider will allow devices on their network that are not bought from them.
US CDMA devices are a bastardized version, and if you want to bring a CDMA device from another provider, most likely you won't be able to, as it tends to be the case that no US CDMA provider will allow devices on their network that are not bought from them.
What point are you trying to make re: a Verizon or China iPhone?
Yes, it is the same CDMA. They both use the CDMA standard (minus the use of R/UIM in the US). A CDMA device built for US will work in China as well. They would probably just need to include an R/UIM slot. (Unless you are referring to TS-SCDMA which isn't what anybody here is discussing.)
And do we not have real-time video here? I'm fairly certain people are using real-time video on multiple solutions.
I think it may be higher than 50%. Think of all the regional carriers along with prepaid(US Cellular, Boost, MetroPCS, etc.)
Yep, well done! And a quick Google shows that between 2004 and 2010, GSM subscriptions more than quadrupled (so a 300% increase), while CDMA subscriptions in that period 'only' doubled (a 100% increase).
It is valid to point out that CDMA is relevant to Apple because of its popularity in the US (annoyingly, for all us global travellers), but worldwide it *is* a dying standard when compared to GSM.
List of Carriers and types of Networks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_wireless_communications_service_providers
Correction US Carriers
Correction US Carriers
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Announce in Jan and release in march/April? Doubt that. Apple never does that for updates. Only new devices.
Announce in Jan and release in march/April? Doubt that. Apple never does that for updates. Only new devices.
Uh no. The 5GB cap is only on things like USB network cards. There has never been a bandwidth cap on the actual phones with Verizon.
This is about iPad, not iPhone. You are going off the subject. Also, Verizon sells iPad with their Mi-fi with limited data. Verizon is moving away from Unlimited Data. That's is the point. Congrats with unlimited Data on Verizon phones, but it is going away just like AT&T.
But, there will be caps on phones at some point.
http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/09/verizon-unlimited-data-cap/