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Uh no. The 5GB cap is only on things like USB network cards. There has never been a bandwidth cap on the actual phones with Verizon.

This is about iPad, not iPhone. You are going off the subject. Also, Verizon sells iPad with their Mi-fi with limited data. Verizon is moving away from Unlimited Data. That's is the point. Congrats with unlimited Data on Verizon phones, but it is going away just like AT&T.

This all got confused when grayskies made some off-topic post about the iPhone and unlimited data.

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My original idea was to switch to verizon with a new iPhone but am sticking with AT&T since I'm grandfathered with unlimited data. I undestand that both do not offer unlimited with new service but it seems like a real hinderance to using the device. Honestly, I'd rather go without than limit my use.
 
More like TDMA is a GSM standard. AND TDMA is old. The current GSM standard is WCDMA.

More like TDMA is the (old 2g) GSM standard and the UMTS (current 3g) standard is WCDMA. UMTS is an evolution of GSM, like LTE is an evolution of UMTS, as of the 3GPP however they could all be viewed as GSM standards as the 3GPP's specifications are evolved from GSM.
 
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More like TDMA is the (old 2g) GSM standard and the UMTS (current 3g) standard is WCDMA. UMTS is an evolution of GSM, like LTE is an evolution of UMTS, as of the 3GPP however they could all be viewed as GSM standards as the 3GPP's specifications are evolved from GSM.

And it all falls under the direction of the GSMA. :D

Thanks for clearing that up. I just didn't care to get that specific.
 
Apple's lack of logic

What about 1700 MHz AWS GSM band, which is used by T-Mobile USA, a few Canadian providers, and some others in the world? It would be super easy for Apple to add the 1700 MHz AWS GSM band, but instead, they leave it out and spend huge amounts on R&D and redesigning to develop a CDMA version? Where is the logic in this???
 
More like TDMA is the (old 2g) GSM standard and the UMTS (current 3g) standard is WCDMA. UMTS is an evolution of GSM, like LTE is an evolution of UMTS, as of the 3GPP however they could all be viewed as GSM standards as the 3GPP's specifications are evolved from GSM.

Who cares? Either way it's a lot of work for both companies. If att was going to flip a switch in 2 years and all the towers would magically switch to lte, then yes, they would have an advantage. But they are changing freqs when they fire up lte so do you really think they would turn off the 3g they have and make everyone with a 3g phone have no service? I think they both have a ton of work to do. Both must leave existing networks intact.
 
What about 1700 MHz AWS GSM band, which is used by T-Mobile USA, a few Canadian providers, and some others in the world? It would be super easy for Apple to add the 1700 MHz AWS GSM band, but instead, they leave it out and spend huge amounts on R&D and redesigning to develop a CDMA version? Where is the logic in this???
agreed
they should do both though
support all carriers
 
Big Macs cost lest than ¢.50 to produce but you still pay $4.00 for them..businesses refer to this as "turning a profit"

You interpreted my post and the one that I was quoting wrong. The guy I was quoting implied that the cost of the GPS (and the 3G) chip might be the reason why the 3G ipad is more expensive than the WIFI. I stated that the cost of a GPS chip is not the reason as they are less than $1 on the b2b market nowadays.
 
CDMA isn't as widespread across the globe as GSM is, but there are still plenty of countries where it is used.
Yes, but other than S.Korea, Japan, and US where CDMA hold quite a marketshare, everywhere else, even if there are CDMA providers, the marketshare belongs to GSM/UMTS. Even the CDMA providers in S.Korea and Japan are switching/transitioning to HSDPA for 3G.

Contradictory issues between CDMA and iPad:
-Apple has intentionally put the iPad as carrier agnostic with the 3G version not provider-locked. CDMA means provider-locking. I don't think Apple would want to put itself in the position of a carrier-locked device with the iPad.
-With Verizon seems to be rolling out LTE quickly, and the fact that LTE would be data only in the beginning, it make sense for Apple to explore LTE at this point in time instead of trying to deal with CDMA/EVDO. Note the rumor that Apple is putting actual money in LTE deployment too.
 
What about 1700 MHz AWS GSM band, which is used by T-Mobile USA, a few Canadian providers, and some others in the world? It would be super easy for Apple to add the 1700 MHz AWS GSM band, but instead, they leave it out and spend huge amounts on R&D and redesigning to develop a CDMA version? Where is the logic in this???

because CDMA (a.k.a Verizon) represents a more lucrative market than T-Mobile. Verizon customers are higher paying and there are a lot more of them than T-Mobile. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see 1700 band added, but it probably won't happen anytime soon. I'm sure Verizon is paying Apple to stay exclusive similar to their deal with AT&T over the past few years.
 



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DigiTimes reports that Apple is expected to release three different versions of the next generation iPad in 2011. These include Wi-Fi, UMTS (3G) and CDMA versions with mass production starting as early as late January. Apple presently ships two distinct versions of the iPad in three different storage capacities (16GB, 32GB, and 64GB). The two current versions include a Wi-Fi only version and a 3G version which supports the AT&T network in the U.S.

Adding a CDMA version would allow the iPad to be sold on the Verizon network in the U.S. as well as other CDMA networks around the world. While mass production will begin in late January, the launch of the next iPad is expected "by the end of the first quarter or the beginning of the second" according to DigiTimes' sources.

Article Link: Apple to Offer a CDMA (Verizon) Version of Next iPad?

I feel like this is akin to predicting that it will snow in the wintertime in a place where wintertime snow is not uncommon.
 
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