The European reviewers won't be so forgiving as the u.s reviewers... they will expect more from a phone costing so much.
Can you really believe Apple? This is the company that says 3rd party applications will crash the entire cell network?!!!
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The European reviewers won't be so forgiving as the u.s reviewers... they will expect more from a phone costing so much.
Can you really believe Apple? This is the company that says 3rd party applications will crash the entire cell network?!!!
As far as I know by law in Europe a phone has be freely unlock-able. This doesn't apply in the states.
Apple will get 3G but it takes time (design, packaging, testing, factory tooling, approvals, etc). I expect we will see a 3G phone (2.0 iPhone) sometime next year when Apple wants to expand into the Asian and remaining European markets. Until then, you will have to use the iPhone on a GPRS or EDGE network.
Sad when they talk about it being released in Europe already, and no word on Canada..we are only a line drawn on a map north of you americans
i went to an apple store today and played with an iphone. I turned off wifi and my god edge is slow... it was torture
Exactly! After a two years contract you´ll get your phone unlocked usually. You even get the possibility to unlock it before the contract ends, you just have to pay the subsidy rate.
Too bad cuz I love vodafone and their awesome service. Sometimes I wonder if apple is really paying attention to their euro customers on this one because vodafone has a far more superior network in the un that o2 does. But drew to hoping that the fix that problem. Eh what do I care I have my iPhone
NOTICE (of the obvious)
iPhone is a quad-band GSM device with EDGE and wifi and bluetooth.
It has been said over and over. It is the case.
Any deployment within the next 12-18 months will use what it has.
It is diverse. Wide deployment of wifi will help.
Soon we will have wimax 802.16 which has the same range as current cellular towers (what a coincidence).
Cellular is dying.
802 is growing. Deal with it.
Rocketman
"This a$$ho1e told you so".
iPhone is a quad-band GSM device with EDGE and wifi and bluetooth.
It has been said over and over. It is the case.
Any deployment within the next 12-18 months will use what it has.
It is diverse. Wide deployment of wifi will help.
Soon we will have wimax 802.16 which has the same range as current cellular towers (what a coincidence).
Cellular is dying.
802 is growing. Deal with it.
Rocketman
"This a$$ho1e told you so".
I don't think you can take anything as final until it leaves the mouth of Steve Jobs....
Whatever the setup you can be sure it will be equivalent in performance and price to the US model. That 'magic formula' will not be diluted for Europe...
...of course there will now be 6 months of rabid disinformation, speculation and general FUD from the PR machines of the competition and the 'paid' journalists...BUT...
Just 'Don't Panic'!!!
Whatever the setup you can be sure it will be equivalent in performance and price to the US model. That 'magic formula' will not be diluted for Europe...
...of course there will now be 6 months of rabid disinformation, speculation and general FUD from the PR machines of the competition and the 'paid' journalists...BUT...
Just 'Don't Panic'!!!
God I'm hoping the "Only in the UK, Germany and France" part is non-final.
If it is, a lot of brits will make a lot of money exporting iPhones. I know I will be buying..
I'm living in a country where it's illegal to bind the phone to a customer, however you can bind the contract to the customer for 6 months. This will most likely mean I wont see the shadow of an iPhone until well after asia gets theirs. Lucky lucky me.
I'm waiting for an official statement before I go crying to work, but it doesn't look good - with EDGE only (rubish here) and 3 countries only.
If it is, a lot of brits will make a lot of money exporting iPhones. I know I will be buying..
I'm living in a country where it's illegal to bind the phone to a customer, however you can bind the contract to the customer for 6 months. This will most likely mean I wont see the shadow of an iPhone until well after asia gets theirs. Lucky lucky me.
I'm waiting for an official statement before I go crying to work, but it doesn't look good - with EDGE only (rubish here) and 3 countries only.
No 3G would mean no phone for Finland. It's only legal to sell 3G phones locked here. Also MMS and video calling are very big here.
I can't imagine how Apple is going to break into the Finnish and South Korean mobile market. No 3G means it simply won't sell.
I'm sure Steve's got something up his sleeve but it might mean waiting awhile. It would be a major coup for him though to have a successful iPhone launch in Finland, the home of Nokia.
I am so tired of this
I can't tsake this anymore. I liked their phone, but Apple does everything possible to make life difficult for phone buyers. As if hefty price and limited features were not enough, they lock their phones and oblige you to pick the operator they prefer. This is absurd.
Some European countries have the "3" operator. They sell phones with skype and have very low calling prices. And if you are on their network, no matter which country you are in, you still pay domestic prices. Even if your contract is in Italy and you are in Hong Kong.
Will those people be ready to switch to inferior service and more expensive operators just to embrace Steve Jobs vision o operator branded phones and revenue sharing with hardware manifacturers? When I got my MacBook Pro, Apple should have obliged me to get internet service with a company of their choice and expect a share of my phone bill. That would make their company policy consistent through their rntire range of products.
And as far as 3G goes, I've seen smaller phones that have no problems incorporating the chip. I don't see why Apple would be having more trouble with this than others do, other than the fact that EDGE chips are cheaper than 3G. The phone is expensive, their selling practices do everything to discourage you from buying a phone, and their choice of components is cheap.
I think I will get the new Samsung, which looks better than the IPhone in my opinion.
I can't tsake this anymore. I liked their phone, but Apple does everything possible to make life difficult for phone buyers. As if hefty price and limited features were not enough, they lock their phones and oblige you to pick the operator they prefer. This is absurd.
Some European countries have the "3" operator. They sell phones with skype and have very low calling prices. And if you are on their network, no matter which country you are in, you still pay domestic prices. Even if your contract is in Italy and you are in Hong Kong.
Will those people be ready to switch to inferior service and more expensive operators just to embrace Steve Jobs vision o operator branded phones and revenue sharing with hardware manifacturers? When I got my MacBook Pro, Apple should have obliged me to get internet service with a company of their choice and expect a share of my phone bill. That would make their company policy consistent through their rntire range of products.
And as far as 3G goes, I've seen smaller phones that have no problems incorporating the chip. I don't see why Apple would be having more trouble with this than others do, other than the fact that EDGE chips are cheaper than 3G. The phone is expensive, their selling practices do everything to discourage you from buying a phone, and their choice of components is cheap.
I think I will get the new Samsung, which looks better than the IPhone in my opinion.
you won't be missed, your one "iphone" you don't purchase won't bankrupt apple
is 3G that important? what are you people doing where you need internet NOW like super fast? edge has worked fine for me around here and I'm not to displeased. yeah I have to wait a extra second but who cares? what are you doing with your time thats so dang important you can't wait a extra 20 seconds for a page to load? is 20 seconds that long? sorry apple can't cater to your "ultra fast life style"
so go ahead and buy your samsung, get that 3G you need so badly. then when people are going ga-ga over someones iphone across from you and no one is paying attention to your third world piece of crap, you can take refuge in knowing you can get a webpage to load 20 seconds faster than the dude next to you
Go ahead, buy the Samsung. Funny how Apple haven't said anything at all about the European release yet and you are letting rumours cloud your judgement.
locked phones are outlawed in some EU countries, like Belgium, what will Apple do about that ?
they just HAVE to provide unlocked phones here, or not sell the iPhone at all (that would be a disaster for me)
Well, you may want to keep in mind that there's been no OFFICIAL announcement of any kind. So, everything is pure speculation right now.
As for locking the phones, I would assume this is the enticement for the service providers. Don't you think that if Apple had a choice, it would prefer to have as many people as possible buy the iPhone? I mean, why in the world would any company agree to Apple's various demands, including spending money to implement visual voicemail, if they weren't going to get something in return?
Not sell it in Belgium probably.. considering how much money they stand to make from their deals with the operators I'd say they wouldn't mind not selling it in some smaller countries.
Maybe O2 are going to try to upgrade it's network to EDGE? A bit pointless if you ask me, but if Apple really cannot yet produce a decent 3G version of the iPhone it might have to do. Using with iPhone with GPRS would be a joke (a sick one).
Perhaps they plan to include access to a network of wifi hotspots included in the data bundle - but that would only benefit some people in big cities. Does O2 have wifi hotspots?
Perhaps they plan to include access to a network of wifi hotspots included in the data bundle - but that would only benefit some people in big cities. Does O2 have wifi hotspots?
