The value offered by 16GB is letting people buy the 64GB model with higher margin.
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Apple to Preinstall iLife and iWork on Higher-Capacity iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Models
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The value offered by 16GB is letting people buy the 64GB model with higher margin.
The preinstalled apps that cannot be deleted are part of the operating system. They are not able to be updated through the Appt Store either. This is not the case with these apps, as they are App Store apps which simply come pre-installed. I'm sure we will be able to delete them.
You bring up a good point though, not everyone needs the Stocks app. I believe it should be an optional free app available from the App Store. like the Podcasts app is currently.
it certainly isnt and i personally would have hoped a company of apples stature wouldnt play games like this and just start with 32 gig.
I hope this does not backfire like the whole U2 fiasco. I mean what is Apple thinking -- giving us all this free stuff and installing it for us so we dont need to lift a finger. The nerve of this company to think they can do this.
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That's a different thing altogether. Those apps you CAN'T delete, and if we're talking that, then I'm with you. What we're talking about here though is things that are easily fixed within minutes and yet there's *so much* bellyaching about them. That's what I don't get.
I think the Stocks app's days are numbered. With extensibility, any stock tracking app could provide a list of current stock prices for the pull-down screen or the lock screen. Probably the Weather app could be removed, also.
In previous versions of iOS these apps were needed to provide the information for the notification center. That's much more flexible now. Perhaps iOS 9 will allow us to choose our own.
Are you sure iWork and iLife will be removable? In iOS 8 both iBooks and Podcasts are preinstalled and are not removable!
Preinstalled apps on limited, non-upgradeable storage is a scary concept.
I would like a MicroSD card slot for a card to store apps or even the entire /var/mobile directory, having the internal flash memory store ONLY the system. The user and system are pretty decoupled in iOS. The system needs the speed of internal flash memory, but a MicroSD card should suffice for user data, right? Especially because most of it is also stored somewhere else.
Does anyone see a non-business-related problem with this? It sounds like a solid solution to me.
I would like a MicroSD card slot for a card to store apps or even the entire /var/mobile directory, having the internal flash memory store ONLY the system. The user and system are pretty decoupled in iOS. The system needs the speed of internal flash memory, but a MicroSD card should suffice for user data, right? Especially because most of it is also stored somewhere else.
Does anyone see a non-business-related problem with this? It sounds like a solid solution to me.
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How cool! How much is your collection worth... enough to offset the cost of a 16GB phone?
I agree. I hate pre-installed bloatware, even if it's supposed to be useful for some people. Options are always nice.
How is this different than carrier bloatware that everyone derides? If I didn't want the iLife or iWorks suite on my phone, why would I be happy Apple decided to pre-install it for me?
People are bellyaching because this is an issue entirely created by Apple. It doesn't even need to happen. If someone want's iLife/iWork let them download it like every other app they download. You say it can be easily fixed within five minutes. I say it can easily be fixed within 0 minutes. Don't do it.
My personal fear? This is just the first step in a "get used to it" plan that ends up with iLife/iWork preinstalled on every iOS device from this point forward. Testing the waters to see how accepting people will be.
Tim, you're just too good for some of these whiners, sheesh.
Looking forward to using iWork pre-installed on my future shiny new 6+…..
Looking forward to using iWork pre-installed on my future shiny new 6+…..
I'm not sure of anything, but I know that podcasts isn't on my phone now, so it has to be optional is some way. Dunno about iBooks.
What is it lately with Apple and all this "forced" stuff? First U2, and now these apps? Don't get me wrong, I actually like U2 and those are good apps. But if we want that stuff, WE will decide to add them. We shouldn't have to go out of our way to remove them. Pretty soon, iOS is going to become like Android bloatware.
The Calendar, Reminders, and Stocks apps have widgets in the notification center. The Stocks app cannot be deleted because it doubles as a built in widget.
However, with iOS 8 and third party widgets in the App Store, the argument above is invalid. Apple now has the ability to make the Stocks app optional, like they do with the podcasts app.
I understand that.. but that doesn't change the fact that from a standpoint of Value for your money, the best buy is always the lowest config.
I keep hearing the same arguments about storage size and how we need more. I can't be the only one that sees less is the new more right?
I haven't bought music in years except for the rare time something isn't on Rdio. The vast majority of people I know have never heard of MacRumors. They don't care about audio fidelity. They care about streaming music.
In fact I'm surprised they went to 128gb with the simultaneous launch of icloud. If Steve was still around he'd be selling you a 16 gb phone and telling you to store your stuff in the cloud like when he removed the floppy drive in the iMac.
The cloud is the new storage. If anything future iPhones may go down in size and you'll stream apps as well.
I haven't bought music in years except for the rare time something isn't on Rdio. The vast majority of people I know have never heard of MacRumors. They don't care about audio fidelity. They care about streaming music.
In fact I'm surprised they went to 128gb with the simultaneous launch of icloud. If Steve was still around he'd be selling you a 16 gb phone and telling you to store your stuff in the cloud like when he removed the floppy drive in the iMac.
The cloud is the new storage. If anything future iPhones may go down in size and you'll stream apps as well.
Why iLife and iWork now come preinstalled on 64GB+ iPhones:
The iOS and OS X groups now work together under Craig. Apple simply preinstalls the respective application suites on all 64GB+ Macs and iOS devices. Apple has done that since the beginning of iLife and iWork.
Why the U2 album is pushed to everyone:
The Apple marketing team and Tim Cook were like: let's make this keynote Steve Jobs-y and awesome. So Tim Cook did Steve's signature 'one more thing' for the first time since Steve Jobs did it. And Cook had to have a band at the end, to make the keynote awesome like it was before with Steve Jobs! So Cook thought: Steve Jobs and Apple have always been close to U2, and I (being CEO of a company with ties to U2) heard about U2's new album, so let's use them for the keynote! U2 agrees, since they want free promotion for their new album. And then U2 asks Cook if they want to buy the album in mass for all their customers before the album is released (because U2 knows the album isn't very good and won't sell well on its own). Tim Cook agrees because he wants to make the keynote the 'best ever,' and Apple has cash to blow! Cook told the iTunes team to get the album for everyone for free, and through some miscommunication, instead of Apple allowing customers to buy it for free, they gave it to all the customers, forcing the music onto their devices if they have Settings>iTunes>Automatic Downloads>Music set to on.
I think that I understand the issue from apple's perspective. The value proposition between 32 and 64 is probably not strong enough to support $100. 16 -> 64 for $100 is an obvious prospect and 64->128 for $100 is an obvious prospect but 32->64 for $100 is a little weak.
We can debate whether Apple should remain rigid on the $100 tier stance but they have stuck with it.
Wrong. The reason: profit. Steve and Tim were and are about profit.
If Apple has your storage in the cloud:
Apple's profit = small amount per month from buying cloud storage
Carrier's profit = large amount per month from increased data usage
If Apple has your storage on the device:
Apple's profit = very large amount from buying higher device storage option
Carrier's profit = nothing extra