Make become a shocker to you, beats is a Apple company
Yes I'm aware Apple bought Beats. In my opinion a bad decision, but hey they've got 100 billion cash to throw around. It's their money.
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Apple to Preinstall iLife and iWork on Higher-Capacity iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Models
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Yes I'm aware Apple bought Beats. In my opinion a bad decision, but hey they've got 100 billion cash to throw around. It's their money.
What credentials do you have to even make that opinion?lol
You would have to know every detail of the acquisition to form a valued opinion.
Of course you can delete them. Sheesh. First the U2 haters saying they don't want the album, then this. Don't want it? Don't download it. Don't want the apps? Delete them. How hard is this?
FWP indeed. This is the only place on earth where people get upset when you give them something (communicable diseases aside).
Dont offer it. Problem solved.
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Value is relative. His opinion is valuable to him. Just because Apple bought it with all of their might and acumen doesnt make it a good buy.
There are lots of money men but few predicted and/or put in place measures to prevent lots of financial disasters we hear about, yet supposedly they with all their credentials have extremely valued opinions.
I was thinking the same thing. if this is set up like on the computer where you sign into your apple id to link it for your purchase history and then can delete them, not a huge issue in the end
Those without double standards do.
When M$ include it they moan, when Apple do it theyre altruistic.
Let's not kid ourselves that Apple is doing this for a better user experience. They're doing it because they have competition for productivity software, and it's called Microsoft Office. The more people they can get to try out Numbers, Pages etc. for free, the fewer people will be drawn into buying Microsoft Office. Also, once people are using the Apple productivity apps, they'll start using iCloud, they'll see the value in switching to Macs etc. Apple is luring people into their ecosystem - iPhones and iWork are the 'gateway drugs'.
Personally I don't have any problem with it. It's business. Just like when Microsoft preloaded Internet Explorer in Windows and was taken to court for it. Competition is good, and at least you can delete it...
Personally I don't have any problem with it. It's business. Just like when Microsoft preloaded Internet Explorer in Windows and was taken to court for it. Competition is good, and at least you can delete it...
I never understood that. It was just the sheer number of people who couldnt be bothered to look for another browser right?
Disagree. People like my parents would rather have the 16GB and put the $100/£80 towards an iTunes card for apps, TV Shows, books and movies.
Also my employer gives us iPhones for work use. They will not be springing for 64GB models - no point, they're used for light web browsing, some note taking, calendar management, email, texts and calls. On my current work issued iPhone 4 I'm using about 7GB.
In just these 2 small use cases the 16GB offers plenty of value.
For my personal device, the 16GB version is too small (I've ordered the 64GB iPhone 6), but there are plenty of situations where 16GB is more than enough.
Think of it that way: quite a lot of iPhone users probably want those free apps anyway. Now if every one of those users would first have to download huge amounts of MB, what a waste of bandwidth (-> electricity in the end!). Apple servers which would stall in the first few days etc.
So pre-installing those apps and then making people uninstall them (if possible, which I guess will be the case) on a per-use case is the lesser of the two evils.
Kind of silly to argue one subsidized phone is a good value and one isn't. They all cost way too much.
Heh. Talk to me when M$ includes Office suite for free with anything they sell. The stuff that comes on non-apple powered devices is whatever third parties want and have been able to negotiate. That at least isn't the same thing as what Apple is doing.
I will however concede your point that none of it need be offered, rather allowing the individual customer to grab what they will after purchase of a device. That seems fair. 'Here's a list of things you can get from us for nothing--take what you will and leave the rest' is likely the best option.
sorry but im not making heads or tails of what you are saying
they have kept the middle tier phone at the same price but increased the storage from 32 to 64
they have kept the top tier phone at the same price but increased the storage from from 64-128
but they keep the lowest tear phone at the same price with 16 even though it would cost them a few measly $ to up it to 32
you are already getting the most for your buck (if you can afford it that is) if you buy the higher capacity ones. this kind of trick (did it with the ipod touch a few years ago) is something you would expect from a carnival.
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Apple don't allow the carriers to even have a logo stamp on the phone-either on the hardware or in software, there's a 0% chance they'll allow carriers to dictate forced software downloads.
Ever.
Yes. They'll be available as cloud installs on all your other iOS devices once you've logged into your iTunes account on a brand new iOS device. This policy started with the release of iOS7 last year.
No, it's not OK (with me, at least). I'm still wishing I could remove Game Center. I've been forced to put that and a few other things Apple thinks I must have into a "Worthless Junk" folder. But it is still eating up space that I paid extra for.
Do I wish I could delete the Stocks app? Yes because I don't use it but it doesn't kill me, I honestly forgot about it. I created an "unused" folder and it contains stocks, compass, voice memos, game center, and videos, all apps that came pre-installed on my iPhone 5, and I just had to go searching for that folder to remember what I had even put in there! LOL!
Personally, I'm glad they're giving us iLife and iWork. I've never used the iWork apps and wish I could get them on my laptop as well. Since you have to get a paid subscription to use Office on your iPad, this might be the thing that makes me switch my personal use from Word to Pages.
As for size, my husband and I each have a 64 GB iPhone 5. His phone is full, he constantly gets error messages and is quite happy to be receiving a 128 GB phone on Friday. I only have about 31 GB on my phone so even if I start taking more pictures and shooting videos with this great new camera, I still probably won't fill the thing up. To say you don't need a larger capacity because you can just store it in the cloud is very short sited. My husband has close to a terabyte of music stored on an external drive at home. He loads playlists on his phone when we travel so that we can have music to listen to when we're traveling through remote areas where there is no cell reception. What good is the cloud if you are in an area where you can't access it? Not everyone lives in an area where there is cell service everywhere.
Personally, I'm glad they're giving us iLife and iWork. I've never used the iWork apps and wish I could get them on my laptop as well. Since you have to get a paid subscription to use Office on your iPad, this might be the thing that makes me switch my personal use from Word to Pages.
As for size, my husband and I each have a 64 GB iPhone 5. His phone is full, he constantly gets error messages and is quite happy to be receiving a 128 GB phone on Friday. I only have about 31 GB on my phone so even if I start taking more pictures and shooting videos with this great new camera, I still probably won't fill the thing up. To say you don't need a larger capacity because you can just store it in the cloud is very short sited. My husband has close to a terabyte of music stored on an external drive at home. He loads playlists on his phone when we travel so that we can have music to listen to when we're traveling through remote areas where there is no cell reception. What good is the cloud if you are in an area where you can't access it? Not everyone lives in an area where there is cell service everywhere.
I use Pages, Numbers, and iPhoto on my phone. The other apps I have installed but never use. I always figured since you need WiFi to download and they are large apps, I'd keep them if I ever needed to use it.
There are ways to expand storage, like an external wifi drive. Also, not everyone needs more than 16GB.
I think it's a slimey move to put 16GB on the low end and then jump to 64GB - Apple is playing us for fools. There is no way I'll reward Apple by buying anything but a 16GB model. I might even wait for the 6S because of this d*** move. I am not Apple's b****.
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Im ok with this as long as they are deletable (I'm sure they are) however I don't really understand beats app on there because its a subscription service so I don't really understand including that one.
You're right about the widget and extensibility now being available. Let's not forget though that both the stocks and weather app interact with Siri, and I don't believe Apple yet provides a way for third party apps to do that, so both are still rather tightly integrated into the operating system.
I realize this isn't a very good reason, but de-integrating the built-in apps is just one more thing for Apple to do, and they just didn't choose to take the time to do it yet. Oh well, we can still hope for next year.
