Stocks is an operating system app (like compass and the like). If its available in the app store, you can delete it, otherwise you cannot.
Since iWork is in the app store it will be deleteable.
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Apple to Preinstall iLife and iWork on Higher-Capacity iPhone 6 and 6 Plus Models
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Stocks is an operating system app (like compass and the like). If its available in the app store, you can delete it, otherwise you cannot.
Since iWork is in the app store it will be deleteable.
Where is the Bloatware Outrage?
I remember when people always complained about Carrier bloatware, but somehow it's ok when Apple does it.
I remember when people always complained about Carrier bloatware, but somehow it's ok when Apple does it.
You can not delete the iBooks or Podcast app now which prior to iOS8 you could (but now they come pre-installed), or the new tips app, which the tips are designed for grandma to get to know how to use a smart phone.
But if you enable restrictions, which all iPhone owners should do (just so others don't lock you out as a prank) you can restrict/hide Podcasts and the app will now show, but still installed.
But if you enable restrictions, which all iPhone owners should do (just so others don't lock you out as a prank) you can restrict/hide Podcasts and the app will now show, but still installed.
As long as the apps can be deleted by those who don't want them, I think this will add value for a lot of users. Many, many people don't even know that these apps exist and there are others who only use cellular data--so they never install or try them.
The iWork suite is very good, and can easily serve the needs of most people. They won't know this if they don't ever download the apps or even know they exist. Most people think that Microsoft office is needed for these kinds of things. With the apps preinstalled, they'll now have a chance to learn otherwise.
The iWork suite is very good, and can easily serve the needs of most people. They won't know this if they don't ever download the apps or even know they exist. Most people think that Microsoft office is needed for these kinds of things. With the apps preinstalled, they'll now have a chance to learn otherwise.
I like this. I don't like that iBooks comes preinstalled though. My iPad is never going to get updated to iOS 8 because I am still in love with iBooks 3.1.3 and still have that version on it. Skeuomorphism does have a place, and that place is iBooks.
I totally see your point, re: bloatware. But then all these items are already on any Mac you buy, and no one calls it bloatware then.
On principle I agree with you. You shouldn't have anything on your device you don't want there.
OTOH, the software that they provide is excellent and will be used by most people out of the box without issue. If not, you can remove it, which I understand isn't the case with a lot of the bloatware that comes with other devices. Maybe this is a better option for folks who don't venture past the basics and don't care about other apps to get a job done. *shrug*
how do you figure that? previous iphone and ipad have gone from 32-64 in one step at a $100 increase in price and we are talking about last years products.
its a few dollars from 16-32 in cost and apple imo should be the leader in both embracing the future and customer service/satisfaction.
i think i misunderstood you originally (although my point still remains) and i understand apples point but they make a great margin on each model (would on the 32 as well) and playing people like that imo should be beneath them.
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I don't think the Mac reference applies here. I would argue both suites are an integral part of the OSX experience. Neither suite, imo, can be considered integral to iOS in general and iPhone in particular. I don't see this being a better option. If it can be deleted, then it's just an irritant. But on top of the whole U2 debacle, it's just disturbing coming from Apple. One would think the reception the U2 marketing stunt got would have given Apple pause. How far is it going to continue? Shouldn't it be the decision of the purchaser?
Bolded from your comment: To me bloatware is bloatware. Some is removable, some can only be hidden. Both are unwanted. End of the day, its not that huge of a deal. I'm thinking about upgrading my iPad2. I hope something like this doesn't play into my decision.
16GB might have been okay for the non-retina devices a few years ago. But OS X keeps getting bigger and taking more space, and devices with Retina displays can require a lot more space than they do on their non-Retina counterparts. Having a Retina display means that all of your graphic assets are four times as large as the non-Retina versions.
The higher resolutions of the 6 and 6 Plus means that there is the potential for app sizes to grow again. a 16GB iPhone Plus probably isn't going to be able to hold that many apps.
Aside from that, most people tend to hold on to old pictures, videos, text messages, and Facetime conversations. So each time you get a new phone you've got another year or two worth of content that needs to be kept around if you don't want to delete it.
I dont know.
First Apple force a free album on us, now they are going to forcing us to have some free software. Whatever next? Will they force us to have a free apple watch too ?
Such cheek!
First Apple force a free album on us, now they are going to forcing us to have some free software. Whatever next? Will they force us to have a free apple watch too ?
Such cheek!
If you're referring to the photo - notice it was for the "Apple Apps" section of the store.
Since Apple bought Beats, that's where it goes.
"no" value? It is an iPhone. It can do everything the other models can do, just it holds less.
My 16 GB iPhone right now has 2.9 GB available. And that's with 2.1 GB in my camera roll. More than enough to record plenty of additional video.
I see no reason to spend another $100 for capacity that I won't use very often.
Oh, yeah, when I'm going on a long trip, I might want to load it up to the max with music/movies. I might even delete a large app to fit one more movie on. But as infrequently as I use that, it's not worth the extra $100.
And 2-3 years down the line when I go to sell it, the extra capacity CERTAINLY won't get me an extra $100.
Once the iPhone has the ability to zoom at least 5x without losing *ANY* picture/video quality, *THEN* I might be interested in more storage, as it would be able to replace my "point and shoot" camera entirely.
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Pictures and videos are supposed to not use up storage with iCloud Photo Library in iOS 8.
Text messages can be set to "expire", so that the attachments don't take up space.
FaceTime has *EVER* taken up space after-the-fact. It's live-only, no recordings.
And text messages (and the text entries regarding phone calls and FaceTime calls,) don't take up much room at all.
If Apple was smart they would have just gotten rid of the 16 GB because it is useless but I guess getting rid off 32 GB and replacing with 64 GB was the smarter movie, what a shame.
To be more precise, this is an estimated bill of materials. We don't have access to Apple's supplier contracts, so any such calculations are estimates. Likely in the proper range, but estimates. The only reason I felt compelled to point this out is that you used the word "exactly" above.
That said, Apple does make a higher margin on the higher-capacity devices. However, they also deliver higher value to the consumer if you need that extra space (an extra $200 every two years, almost all of which is recouped on EBay when you trade it in for a new one, to avoid having to cycle my music off daily as a low-pay part time job? Seems like a damned good value to me!) If you don't need the extra space, for heaven's sake don't buy it. But if you are likely to be bumping against it, the extra couple hundred to avoid a constant nuisance is well worth it.
IMHO, 64GB at the top end has always been too low. I went from a 60GB iPod to a 64GB iPhone and have been hitting that limit ever since. I'm on the "S" cycle (seems like there are fewer issues with the internals updates than with the body-style updates, so I've been quite happy with this choice) so I have another year before getting 128GB in my pocket, but that's definitely the size I will be getting.
No but it's one of the apple apps they offer you to download.
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iLife and iWork are a great reason to get an iPhone. I can't believe the Apple hate I've witnessed since the iPhone 6 keynote.
Last years price but not last years pricing model. I think that Apple was fine leaving the tiers the same because they didn't change the amount of storage. It doesn't make sense except that the value proposition 'remained' from when they last updated it.
Yes. It's amazing that no one is complaining. Every single post on this thread is expressing joy about Apple pre-installing these apps. EVERY SINGLE ONE! How did we get to this point? If you read the posts of those who claim not to like it, the subtext says otherwise. Even your post is 100% behind Apple, since you say as clear as day:
Especially on the bigger phones. Those are going to really show off what iPhone can do. They really are "must have" Apps for iPhone/iPad owners to at least try them out. You're cheating yourself if you don't.
I PAID for all the ILife/iWork apps on my iPad 2 when they first came out.. So I'm biased a little.
It's not an irritant for those who want it. In fact, having to download and install the apps that Apple says are free with the device is much more of an irritant than deleting the ones you don't want or need.
Apple looked at both groups of people and decided that pre-installing the included apps was better for the users than making them find and download these apps from the App Store.
It was also better for those who will be trying to download iOS 8 over the next few weeks not to have that bandwidth sapped by new iPhone owners who want their free copy of Garage Band.
Okay, I don't REALLY care whether they install these or not, since I'll install almost all of them anyway. I'm also pretty sure they can be deleted, so it's easy to solve, but I do have two problems with this:
1. Does Apple really want to start down this road? Preinstalling bloat ware sounds and awful lot like a Windows or Android move.
2. Won't most of these be out of date in a month or two anyway? When someone gets their phone in mid-November they will have a huge number of updates to install. They might as well have just chosen and installed the apps anyway, since apple doesn't do delta updates on iOS.
1. Does Apple really want to start down this road? Preinstalling bloat ware sounds and awful lot like a Windows or Android move.
2. Won't most of these be out of date in a month or two anyway? When someone gets their phone in mid-November they will have a huge number of updates to install. They might as well have just chosen and installed the apps anyway, since apple doesn't do delta updates on iOS.