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I wish they had bought Time Warner, simply because I am being ripped off by them for my Internet connection ($120 a month - for *just* that, no TV) and have NO other option in our Manhattan apartment building: Verizon FIOS is coming just about never. Verizon totally lied to NYC that they would wire the entire city within 5 years -- they've not done it, and seem to have basically stopped working at it: for those in newly built buildings that have it, great, but the rest of us are screwed.

Anyway, if I was dealing with Apple instead TWC every time something goes wrong and being charged a reasonable high speed Internet fee (not cheap by any means, but not an utter monopoly based gouge), I'd be so much happier. Real TV through Apple TV would just be a bonus.
 
There were home computers before the Macintosh. There were phones before the iPhone. There were music players before the iPod. There were tablets before the iPad. There were watches before the Watch. I could go on and on similarly about companies other than Apple.

With your thinking, Chevrolet, BMW, and Toyota should not have entered the car market many decades ago.

Um, you're talking apples and oranges here.

Those companies actually make car parts. They aren't existing companies that have to rely on other companies for parts and information.

Apple isn't taking a risk if another company (Google) has already laid out the instructions on how to make a self-driving car. When the iPad, iPhone, and iPod were released, they were great advancements of existing technology nobody has seen before... The self-driving car already exists, and Apple probably won't go above and beyond what Google has already made.
 
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I wouldn't like to be in the shoes of who has a position in AAPL everytime Eddy Cue's name is associated to eventual Apple's future projects
 
I wish they had bought Time Warner, simply because I am being ripped off by them for my Internet connection ($120 a month - for *just* that, no TV) and have NO other option in our Manhattan apartment building: Verizon FIOS is coming just about never. Verizon totally lied to NYC that they would wire the entire city within 5 years -- they've not done it, and seem to have basically stopped working at it: for those in newly built buildings that have it, great, but the rest of us are screwed.

Anyway, if I was dealing with Apple instead TWC every time something goes wrong and being charged a reasonable high speed Internet fee (not cheap by any means, but not an utter monopoly based gouge), I'd be so much happier. Real TV through Apple TV would just be a bonus.
Once again, Time Warner and Time Warner Cable are two different, independent companies. :)
 
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Um, you're talking apples and oranges here.

Those companies actually make car parts. They aren't existing companies that have to rely on other companies for parts and information.

Apple isn't taking a risk if another company (Google) has already laid out the instructions on how to make a self-driving car. When the iPad, iPhone, and iPod were released, they were great advancements of existing technology nobody has seen before... The self-driving car already exists, and Apple probably won't go above and beyond what Google has already made.

No. I'm talking about business and manufacturing.

By your logic google should not make a car because they have to rely on other companies for parts and information. Electric cars have existed for a long time.

Why is it OK for google to develop and someday make a car for sale, one that relies on others' parts and has used information from others that has been out there for years, but not OK for Apple?

And how do you know what kind of car Apple will develop. Have you been privy to their plans and google's?
 
Once again, Time Warner and Time Warner Cable are two different, independent companies. :)

However, you do have to agree that it's extremely annoying when two companies who provide nearly identical services have almost the same name, or are separate entities but have the same name (Verizon).

Verizon FIOS and Wireless should merge... There's no reason to have separate companies. It's dumb that there's "Time Warner" and then there's "Time Warner Cable."
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By your logic google should not make a car because they have to rely on other companies for parts and information. Electric cars have existed for a long time.

My whole point was about the risk factor and idea.

Google took a risk with the self-driving car and came up with the idea. Apple is just a follower like usual these days.
 
I take it Eddy Cue's not feeling' the love that he thinks is coming to him SO he's looking to get his "own" piece of the high-roller pie.
 
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My whole point was about the risk factor and idea.

Google took a risk with the self-driving car and came up with the idea. Apple is just a follower like usual these days.


Are you serious??? Do some research. Google did not come up with the idea of a self-driving car. They're a follower too, by your definition.

Why do you care so much about what Apple does or does not do? And what makes you qualified to assess the level of risk Apple is taking?

I think most would be stunned hearing you say Apple is not taking a risk developing a car.
 
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Look at the difference. When Steve Jobs wanted to get into the media industry he purchased Pixar and turned it into the most innovative and profitable film company in the world with a string of hits. By contrast Eddy Cue's answer is to purchase an antiquated media conglomerate that has lost millions of dollars of share holders money in failed mergers over the years. The guy is ****ing moron. He can't even get the iTunes Store to work properly after 10 years.

I think you may have mistyped. Steve did not purchase Pixar to get into film industry. Read Steve's official biography by Isaacson. The book has a wonderful history of pixar and how it basically morphed into being a film company from being a technology company. And pixar's hits were not a result of Steve, it was Catmull et al. who moved the company to making films (sneaking it in basically at the beginning).
 
With my top tier bandwidth internet and 6 subscription services I’m paying $7 less a month for 1/20th the available content than I would have with a full cable package. Take that Big Cable!

:)

I am in similar situation and I am OK with it. I am still saving a small amount of money but that money is actually going to shows I watch instead of subsidizing 19/20th of available content I never watched anyway. I still technically subsidize shows with HULU, netflix and amazon prime but most of my money go to itunes. Even for shows I can already get on HULU.
 
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However, you do have to agree that it's extremely annoying when two companies who provide nearly identical services have almost the same name, or are separate entities but have the same name (Verizon).

Verizon FIOS and Wireless should merge... There's no reason to have separate companies. It's dumb that there's "Time Warner" and then there's "Time Warner Cable."
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My whole point was about the risk factor and idea.

Google took a risk with the self-driving car and came up with the idea. Apple is just a follower like usual these days.

Don't worry, Time Warner Cable is going away. At least the name is ...
 
Why do you care so much about what Apple does or does not do?


Well, from a stakeholder point of view, there is always a concern about what companies do - there are a significant number of corporate tombstones scattered around the country that pay homage to companies that forgot what brought them to the dance and subsequently went under.

And if you're one of those current stakeholders, you best be paying attention to Apple's corporate situation over the next year or so.
 
With my top tier bandwidth internet and 6 subscription services I’m paying $7 less a month for 1/20th the available content than I would have with a full cable package. Take that Big Cable!

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Then you're doing it wrong. I have access to more that I want to watch than I would with a cable package while paying roughly the same.
 
I'm glad Apple didn't introduce the TV service. There's no way I'm paying $30-40/month for media content. Max I'll pay is $10/mo, or just go to the public library and check out DVDs.
You know what's great about the Apple Watch? Since I don't like it, I don't have to buy it. Just like whenever Apple introduces their TV service, you don't have to subscribe to it. And others still have their own personal choice, depending on their needs!
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Apple,

Please buy Sony Entertainment and fix their abhorrent Super Hero movies they've been coming out lately. Yes, I'm looking at you Superman v. Batman!
Batman Vs Superman is DC and Warner Brothers. Sony owns Spiderman IP and have agreed to work with Marvel on the next iteration.
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Lol, sorry but no, Time Warner is a huge, entrenched behemoth that can barely move. Nothing innovative will come from them, even if they were put under an Apple umbrella. The only thing they have changed in the last ten years is offering faster internet speeds, but only in locations where Google is mopping the floor with them.
Time Warner Inc is a completely different company than Time Warner Cable. That being said, Google has zero plans to bring fiber to my neighborhood. And TWC upped their speeds last year and are planning for gigabit internet in the next 5 years.
 
Well, from a stakeholder point of view, there is always a concern about what companies do - there are a significant number of corporate tombstones scattered around the country that pay homage to companies that forgot what brought them to the dance and subsequently went under.

And if you're one of those current stakeholders, you best be paying attention to Apple's corporate situation over the next year or so.

Of course. And if Apple's direction bothers you, simply sell your shares. Easy.
 
I'm glad Apple didn't introduce the TV service. There's no way I'm paying $30-40/month for media content. Max I'll pay is $10/mo, or just go to the public library and check out DVDs.
No way this can be done at 10 bucks/month. If you don't mind going back and forth to the library this will be your only option based on your price range. Please not that I don't have any issue with that. Many colleagues do that and it works well for them.
 
I think you may have mistyped. Steve did not purchase Pixar to get into film industry. Read Steve's official biography by Isaacson. The book has a wonderful history of pixar and how it basically morphed into being a film company from being a technology company. And pixar's hits were not a result of Steve, it was Catmull et al. who moved the company to making films (sneaking it in basically at the beginning).

You're correct but my point was more about Steve's ability to take something small and transform it something major. I would also not under-estimate Steve's role in Pixar's success.

Steve Jobs bought Pixar in 1986. At the time, it was a small group of engineers spun off from the computer graphics department at Lucasfilm. Jobs paid $5 million to George Lucas and sank $5 million of his own money into the company.

His original vision for Pixar was to develop graphics-rendering hardware and software, but the business eventually evolved into an animation studio. Jobs signed a distribution deal with Disney and Pixar began cranking out a string of hit family films, all of them computer-animated. 1995's Toy Story was the first blockbuster. Toy Story 2, Monsters, Inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Cars, WALL-E and Up followed. Accolades and Oscars came rolling in, along with massive mountains of cash.

In 2006, Jobs flipped his original $10 million investment, selling Pixar to Disney for $7.4 billion in stock. That's one hell of an exit.

Source: Wired Magazine
 
And what about those who have thousands of dollars invested in the Apple eco-system - what should they do?

I don't understand what you're getting at.

Apple developed a Watch. People with computers, phones, iPads, and Apple services such as music continue to enjoy them. Roughly 1 billion people, IIRC.

If Apple develops and sells a car I suspect the above will continue on as well, as Apple's revenue for the last 12 months is around $227 billion from the above products and services.

I may be going out on a limb here, but I suspect if Apple were to bring a car to market, it would not abandon the products/services that brought in almost a quarter trillion dollars over the last year.
 
Oh yey, I can't wait till the walled garden with no sex drugs or offensive content comes to tv!! Are you kidding me, am I the only one thinking this is horrible? You think Apple would make a breaking bad or something?! I don't think so.... Apple stick to tech, even that's not going great recently.

Don't worry about that Tim Cook said on stage he likes HBO shows like Sex and the City!
 
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