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I know this delayed larger phone "news" is rumor, but if thats the case, I wonder how many less 4.7" phones they will sell, because some people will wait for the 5.5" within a year (because of phone contracts).

Dont think Its a good idea to announce two different models and hold off on one of them.
Just put out the 4.7", do that for two years - two colors etc, and THEN sell the 5.5".

They've been milking almost the same phone for years, why not put out the 4.7" and milk that one for two or 4 years? THEN put out the 5.5".
 
This is the kind of stuff that would never happen under Steve's watch.
We miss you Steve.
Another one huh.... You have no clue what Steve would and wouldn't do so please just stop already.

Close enough to be rediculously too big IMHO
Well opinions are like buttholes..... every one has one and they all stink.
I for one am ready for a big boy phone produced by apple. If millions of Asian folks with their typically smaller hands can handled the 5"+ phones other companies put out, certainly a 5"+ iPhone is doable.

Sure, and I expect a larger model this year. So 4" and something around 4.7". I don't think Apple needs to do anything beyond that. If you need something larger than that get an iPad mini.
Why when they don't want an 8" iPhone, they want a 5"+ iphone. Why make a stupid comparison like that?

Apple finally admits that they do not have the know-how nor the technology to make a 5.5 inch screen phone. Maybe they should spend the time hiring away from Samsung and HTC. Those two advanced companies can show Apple a thing or two.:mad:
What are you talking about? Apple has said nothing about anything related to any future phone.

The problem is that I don't want Apple listening to its customers and giving them exactly what they want. I'm serious. Leave that crap to Google. Apple is here to give us what we didn't know we wanted or never even dreamed of.
Written like a true fanboi.

You don't have to use a 5.5" phone to know it won't fit comfortably in your pocket. No one has a problem using large phone screens except those of us who want to walk around with it (not feel like a brick slapping your thigh ever step), quickly pull it out of pocket (not fumble with a giant phone) and use it with one hand (anything larger than 4.5" usually requires two hands).
Oh and then there's the statement it makes when you pull out your giant phone in public. You look like a fool trying to compensate for something else in your pants that is disproportionately sized. Kind of like those people that take pics and video with giant tablets.
That being said, if Apple can make a 4.7" work with one thumb and stay slim, I'll try it.
I have carried my iPad Mini around in my pocket without issue and didn't feel like I had a "brick" slapping my leg. (I'm 74.5" tall, 220 and wear appropriate sized clothing) As far at the "statement" made to others around me.... Why should I give a rats butt what others think? I'm an adult and don't bother with such things. I know you kids feel the need to have the approval of those around you, we adults have more important things to worry about.

The most annoying things to read on here are from the whiners claiming the 4" screen is perfect. Well, it's NOT! Using Safari in landscape mode is miserable. I also love how people so are so dumb and think 4.7" is phablet territory. What's sad, is most of them are guys. Wow! I just keep laughing and lauhging reading some of the comments in favor for the current form factor.
I agree with your statment! 4" may be perfect for some but many are ready for a larger form factor.

Sure you can. Dial number, hold phone to ear, order ticket when customer service answers.
You sir are the winner!
 
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I really dislike that people see me using an Apple product and associate my positive regard for Apple potentially with this sort of mentality. You really have to be kidding yourself at this point to believe the Samsung Galaxy S4 is only used by a "tiny minority" of people. Android phones aren't the minority these days and that's a fact. The only thing that looks ridiculous right now is that bubble you're living in, and I mean that in the nicest way possible.

They came in droves and said Apple would never leave the 3.5" display behind. They were wrong then and they're probably wrong now.

My only reservation about display size is that Apple should have just kept out each size in a completely updated package. In this way if someone wants a 3.5" display they can be happy, while if someone wants a larger display or middle of the road display, they can be happy too.

I couldn't agree more. I would love a 4.7" to 5.2" iPhone. Some folks think 4" is too big, which is fine. But, it's strange how those folks keep saying over and over that 5" phones are not popular , no one uses them, and people look stupid talking in them. However, those comments couldn't be farther from the truth. If a 4" phone is so popular, name one 4" or smaller Android smartphone that sells more than a million units a year. It doesn't exist. A 4.7" iPhone would outsell a 4" iPhone 2-1; I'd bet my life on it.

I also agree that it would be a HUGE mistake to discontinue the 4" iPhone, at least for 2-3 years in order to test the market's preference. I think the 4" will eventually grow to 4.3" without a bezel, and will be the smallest iPhone in a line-up of 3 or 4 sizes.
 
Future iPhone lineup:

Each year:
iPhone 6C will be a 4" iPhone
iPhone 6 will be the flagship 4.7"phone
iPhone 6S will be for Size, a 5.5" iPhone

Stagger releases over the mid-summer, early fall every year and Apple will have no problem selling 300mil iPhones every year.
 
I've posted many times that I'm all for the 5.5 screen. Keep bezels minimal and it's really not THAT big.

Anyways, for everybody saying 4.7 is the ideal size to get, you need to back up and think back to the S3. When that came out people were yelling about how its a phablet and its way too big, almost like an ipad (dont remember if ipad mini existed at the time). And now it's a good size because you've been exposed to the bigger screen, though you may be pigeon holing your choice because of your pocket size vs overall experience, you know in the back of your mind that extra screen estate is pretty nice to have. Not telling you guys to suddenly demand 10 inch phones but you really need to lay off all the intense hate towards bigger phones. You might find yourself owning a 5.5 device in the future, however long it takes.

I think that's improbable, I already have an iPad classic and an iPad Mini for a larger screened iOS experience. No, the current iPhone at 4 inches is good for me, and I really didn't have an issue with the 3.5 inch screen.

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Another one huh.... You have no clue what Steve would and wouldn't do so please just stop already.

Actually, on screen size we know exactly what Steve would do. Steve was specific. Hold your iPhone in your hand. Move your thumb across the screen. Can you touch the entire screen without moving it? Steve Jobs stated that an iPhone should never take two hands to operate, nor should it have a stylus.
 
Blackberry? If you liked that, Ryan Seacrest has a keyboard he wants to sell you.

I actually thought about that. But that still makes the phone bigger and not smaller.

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Actually, on screen size we know exactly what Steve would do. Steve was specific. Hold your iPhone in your hand. Move your thumb across the screen. Can you touch the entire screen without moving it? Steve Jobs stated that an iPhone should never take two hands to operate, nor should it have a stylus.

And he was right about that one. The 5 is slightly too big already for that. Reaching the "edit" button in Mail for instance is already a bit difficult.
 
I know this delayed larger phone "news" is rumor, but if thats the case, I wonder how many less 4.7" phones they will sell, because some people will wait for the 5.5" within a year (because of phone contracts).

Dont think Its a good idea to announce two different models and hold off on one of them.
Just put out the 4.7", do that for two years - two colors etc, and THEN sell the 5.5".

They've been milking almost the same phone for years, why not put out the 4.7" and milk that one for two or 4 years? THEN put out the 5.5".

I think if apple was going to do 2 models, they would only announce the one until the other is ready. They are not going to say, this one is available now, but we have another one coming in 4 months, because it would eat into potential sales, of those people waiting for the other model.

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And while he was alive there was not. Steve Jobs died October 5, 2011. The iPad mini was released November 2, 2012. The same with the iPhone 5. It came about after he was dead and gone.

But it was also shown, that those both were in development under his watch. You act like phones don't take time to design before they actually go mass production.
 
As I read in a review a month or so ago, the person in charge of iOS hardware should be having sleepless nights until they release a phablet that competes with the Samsung & HP models. The current capitulation reminds us old-timers too much of letting Windows 95 gain a foothold and allow people to write off Apple since the alternative is cheaper and good enough.
 
Future iPhone lineup:

Each year:
iPhone 6C will be a 4" iPhone
iPhone 6 will be the flagship 4.7"phone
iPhone 6S will be for Size, a 5.5" iPhone

Stagger releases over the mid-summer, early fall every year and Apple will have no problem selling 300mil iPhones every year.

That would be smart to combat the near continuous release of android devices, but may tick off some iPhone users, not getting the full "year" to feel like they have the latest and greatest.
 
And while he was alive there was not. Steve Jobs died October 5, 2011. The iPad mini was released November 2, 2012. The same with the iPhone 5. It came about after he was dead and gone.

Standard product creation lifecycle in the industry is around 18 months. With Apple's anal attention to detail and a much more complex BOM, I'd be willing to bet that they come in at around 24 months or so. Meaning the the iPad Mini existed in one form or another even as Jobs was dissing the idea in public.
 
Standard product creation lifecycle in the industry is around 18 months. With Apple's anal attention to detail and a much more complex BOM, I'd be willing to bet that they come in at around 24 months or so. Meaning the the iPad Mini existed in one form or another even as Jobs was dissing the idea in public.

I think if apple was going to do 2 models, they would only announce the one until the other is ready. They are not going to say, this one is available now, but we have another one coming in 4 months, because it would eat into potential sales, of those people waiting for the other model.

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But it was also shown, that those both were in development under his watch. You act like phones don't take time to design before they actually go mass production.

Steve Jobs took leave of absence from Apple on January 14, 2011. While he did make an appearance at the launch of the iPad 2 he was essentially out of the picture for almost two years before the launches of the iPad mini and iPhone 5.
 
This is the kind of stuff that would never happen under Steve's watch.

We miss you Steve.

JOHN

There's something specific that makes these sentiments irritating. You are basically projecting your likes and dislikes, then assuming that the decisions of a previous CEO would align with your current position. You're also assuming that this is legitimate information. It's a rumor. Everything about it is a rumor. This means the date range, whether the dates constitute a delay from the original target date, and the size and specifications. They are all rumors. Lastly your fixation with a dead CEO is an insult to the people who actually design these products.
 
Another lonely voice in the fact I like the current size.

Nothing to do with nostalgia, or it being the only size ever needed for everyone, etc, but I do ascribe to the idea of being able to hold my phone in one hand, and I have small hands.

One of the biggest reasons for moving from Android when the 5 came out was the size (decently spec'd) Android phones were turning into. I found it difficult to hold a SGS3 (I can fit my 8yo childs gloves on just about to give you some idea)! I personally find my husbands HTC unwieldy.

It looks like my days of enjoying a phone I can hold in one hand (and thus e.g. navigate easily on an OS map whilst walking) might be numbered, not to mention new case and waterproof case needed...!
 
I like the size, too. But initially I didn't.


I never had that issue! the iPhone 4 was too small for me and the SGS3 was too big. The iPhone5 kept the same size but faster processor. As I say, I'm probably in the minority, and I'll no doubt get used to a bigger phone, but I'm British, it's practically my birthright to have a polite grumble :)
 
Having looked at what others are doing I think these rumours are a deliberate attempt to confuse the competition.

Apple has for some time focused its efforts on building just 2 versions of each product line to maximise economies of sale and avoid confusing customers.

I am convinced that Apple will continue with this policy for the iPhone 6. It simply doesn't make economic sense to make a 4.7" and 5.5" iPhone. It makes much more sense to simply combine these into one 5" model. I just looked at the new 5" HTC One M8 today and it's a perfect size to hold and use comfortably especially with the slightly curved back.

So I think we will see an iPhone 6s and 6c this year. The "s" range will be the pro range (like MBP) and the "c" range will be the mid range model.
 
As a mobile phone, 4.X" is probably the best size. However... as a mobile internet device (which is what I use my iphone for mostly), then give me the 5.X" baby!
 
You call fanboy anyone who does not want to carry big phablet? Sorry, you logic is wrong. There is no fanboyism in it, it is just pure preference.. i personally dont want such a big phone - it is ridiculous, strange, uncomfortable.. etc. if apple releases phablet and normal size iphone - both same specs, I am ok.. if phablet should be better equiped or only released iphone, than go to hell apple.. simple as that

And you're being overly dismissive of a larger phone. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean nobody likes it. The larger format phone will be more powerful and will likely launch at a later time. I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't take a page out of the Samsung playbook here.
 
1. Some have big hands, some have small Apple is clearly behind in the size game.

a. Iphone 4 was a good size, screen just needed to be larger, make a phone with edge to edge screen and smaller size, ala htc one in samsung mini size.

b. Ideally an i6 should be a 4.8"-5" screen again with edge to edge screen (or so close you can't tell). The draw would be a high quality glass, or some other aesthetic quality improvement - there is no need to change much, just be competitive in this market and do the normal upgrades.

c. SG5 is set to release in 5 days, while i6 is Yo dawg, i heard you like rumors so i got you these rumors so you could talk about rumors while you make rumors about your rumors.

d. Samsung will have their 4th generation Note released soon. people like their phablets and if you sell it for as much as an ipad will make up for any lost tablet sales. Apple has 0 phablet generations, where are you Apple?

2. Where is the iwatch? Samsung again about to release 2nd generation Gear and surely working on an update to that. Apple are you even paying attention?


If i were CEO I'd be doing everything in my power to release these, price w/contract.
summer/fall: 1. iphone mini screen 4.2" $149 (edge to edge display, specs from 5s)

fall/winter: 2. iphone 6 screen ~4.8" $249

spring 2015: 3. iphone 6s ~5.5" $449

summer 2015: 4. iwatch $399+ independent device (release mini2)

What i don't understand is Apple has billions of dollars, why aren't they releasing more phones to gain more market share?....it's not like customers aren't going to buy the product, just produce it in white and slap an apple on it, it will sell!
 
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