Apple to Require COVID Testing for Employees Starting Next Month, Still No Vaccine Mandate

[A MacBook lover]

No, your antibodies are not better than vaccination: An explainer

Infection does offer some immune protection—but it’s unreliable compared with vaccines.

arstechnica.com

I love how you lean on a single ‘arstechnica’ article. And ignored 10+ scientific studies.

there’s a massive difference between being worried and claiming that vaccines and vaccine passports are part of some sort of authoritarian plan for world domination

Ah now you’re making up reasons, who in here said anything about world domination? Is this your tactic of diluting our argument by lying about the reasons we are hesitant?

 

[seadragon]

Meanwhile, face it. The anti-vaxxers world continues to shrink as things begin to open up further. Good luck!

U.S. to accept international travellers inoculated with WHO-approved COVID-19 vaccines | CBC News

The United States will accept international visitors inoculated with COVID-19 vaccines authorized by U.S. regulators or the World Health Organization, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Friday.

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Federal public servants, RCMP and air and rail travellers must be vaccinated by month's end, Trudeau says | CBC News

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau unveiled his government's mandatory vaccine policy today — a mandate that will require public servants to either get their shots by month's end or be forced into an unpaid leave of absence. All would-be travellers must also be fully vaccinated by Oct. 30 to board...

www.cbc.ca

Ontario to allow full capacity at sports arenas, concert venues - CityNews Toronto

The Toronto Raptors and Maple Leafs will be starting their seasons with a full venue after the province has announced it will be lifting capacity limits for certain indoor and outdoor settings. As of 12:01 a.m. Saturday, 100 per cent capacity will be allowed in the following places: Concert...

toronto.citynews.ca

 

[nathansz]

I love how you lean on a single ‘arstechnica’ article. And ignored 10+ scientific studies.



Ah now you’re making up reasons, who in here said anything about world domination? Is this your tactic of diluting our argument by lying about the reasons we are hesitant?

we’ve been over your “scientific studies” and debunked and/or explained them literally dozens of times in this thread and others

………

many people in this thread, including yourself, have eluded to and/or outright claimed that there is some sort of massive conspiracy to use vaccines and vaccine passports to achieve autoritarian world domination

it is also the basic bread and butter of the entire anti-mask, anti-vaccine “community”

whether or not you are actually unaware of that or just playing dumb we could only speculate

the entire anti-vaccine playbook came straight from the people that brought us the q-anon stuff. if you can’t figure that out and unattach yourself from the fantasy i honestly just feel bad for you

 

[A MacBook lover]

we’ve been over your “scientific studies” and debunked and/or explained them literally dozens of times in this thread and others

………

many people in this thread, including yourself, have eluded to and/or outright claimed that there is some sort of massive conspiracy to use vaccines and vaccine passports to achieve autoritarian world domination

it is also the basic bread and butter of the entire anti-mask, anti-vaccine “community”

whether or not you are actually unaware of that or just playing dumb we could only speculate

the entire anti-vaccine playbook came straight from the people that brought us the q-anon stuff. if you can’t figure that out and unattach yourself from the fantasy i honestly just feel bad for you

Yes. It’s all a conspiracy. None of the vaccine deaths are real. Hmmm…you’re sounding more like a Q conspiracist.

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[nathansz]

Yes. It’s all a conspiracy. None of the vaccine deaths are real. Hmmm…you’re sounding more like a Q conspiracist.

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a blurb from the epoch times with no sources cited of any kind

very powerful evidence

i think it’s worth noting, since you constantly cite epoch times and other falun gong media, what falun gong and their media empire is all about.

Their leader, Li Hongzhi, has claimed “that aliens started invading human minds in the beginning of the 20th century, leading to mass corruption and the invention of computers. He has also denounced feminism and homosexuality and claimed he can walk through walls and levitate.”

if this is where you want to get your information from that’s fine. just be aware

 

[jk73]

Gavin Newsom's daughter not yet vaccinated as he implements sweeping mandate

Gov. Gavin Newsom admitted that his own daughter, who just turned 12, is not yet vaccinated against COVID-19 despite California's sweeping mandate requiring students to get the shot.

news.yahoo.com

Rules are for the little people.

Not only is Newsom’s daughter unvaccinated against Covid, he says she needs “a series of other shots first,” which sounds like she’s entirely unvaccinated.

Typical leftist hypocritical trash.

 

[I7guy]

Yes. It’s all a conspiracy. None of the vaccine deaths are real. Hmmm…you’re sounding more like a Q conspiracist.

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Sure, deflection with some off the cuff flippant remarks.

- all/most medicines have contra-indications. People can get seriously ill and die from the most common of remedies.
- I asked you this many posts back, but since you haven't been able to answer it says volumes. Here is the question again:
* "How many long-term side effects have been report in any vaccine over 60 days from injection in the last 100 years?"

You can do what you want. But don't argue nonsense about it and accept that being vaccinated going forward might be mandatory in many venues, except for critical medical conditions.

 

[jk73]

* "How many long-term side effects have been report in any vaccine over 60 days from injection in the last 100 years?"

Apparently quite a few, since a bunch of European countries just stopped using the mRNA Covid vaccines on ANYONE UNDER 30.

Meanwhile, the Covid fanatics here are obsessed with vaccinating 5-year-olds. Insane.

 

[avz]

Gavin Newsom's daughter not yet vaccinated as he implements sweeping mandate

Gov. Gavin Newsom admitted that his own daughter, who just turned 12, is not yet vaccinated against COVID-19 despite California's sweeping mandate requiring students to get the shot.

news.yahoo.com

Rules are for the little people.

Not only is Newsom’s daughter unvaccinated against Covid, he says she needs “a series of other shots first,” which sounds like she’s entirely unvaccinated.

Typical leftist hypocritical trash.

Unfortunately it is the fault of the “little people” themselves.
Why would “big people” change their approach if they know that 80% or more would comply with any rubbish that is thrown at them?
And it is interesting that when economic model came to its logical conclusion, it is always a “little people’s” fault who consumed and spent too much. “Big people” who created a model in the first place are never ever at fault.

 

[I7guy]

Apparently quite a few, since a bunch of European countries just stopped using the mRNA Covid vaccines on ANYONE UNDER 30.

Meanwhile, the Covid fanatics here are obsessed with vaccinating 5-year-olds. Insane.

Citation please. (About the over 60 days question)

 

[nathansz]

Gavin Newsom's daughter not yet vaccinated as he implements sweeping mandate

Gov. Gavin Newsom admitted that his own daughter, who just turned 12, is not yet vaccinated against COVID-19 despite California's sweeping mandate requiring students to get the shot.

news.yahoo.com

Rules are for the little people.

Not only is Newsom’s daughter unvaccinated against Covid, he says she needs “a series of other shots first,” which sounds like she’s entirely unvaccinated.

Typical leftist hypocritical trash.

what’s your point?

 

[nathansz]

Unfortunately it is the fault of the “little people” themselves.
Why would “big people” change their approach if they know that 80% or more would comply with any rubbish that is thrown at them?
And it is interesting that when economic model came to its logical conclusion, it is always a “little people’s” fault who consumed and spent too much. “Big people” who created a model in the first place are never ever at fault.

what are you trying to say?

those are all certainly english words but don’t seem to be arranged in any sort of meaningful way

 

[jk73]

Citation please. (About the over 60 days question)

Citation for what? You think they stopped using the vaccines because a few people felt bad for a day after being vaccinated?

 

[nathansz]

delete

 

[nathansz]

Meanwhile, the Covid fanatics here are obsessed with vaccinating 5-year-olds. Insane.

who exactly are the “covid fanatics” here obsessed with vaccinating 5 year olds?

 

[I7guy]

Citation for what? You think they stopped using the vaccines because a few people felt bad for a day after being vaccinated?

Yes. Without a citation that is exactly what I think.

 

[A MacBook lover]

Apparently quite a few, since a bunch of European countries just stopped using the mRNA Covid vaccines on ANYONE UNDER 30.

Meanwhile, the Covid fanatics here are obsessed with vaccinating 5-year-olds. Insane.

Yep, these people don’t even read what they are writing. Quite sad.

 

[nathansz]

Yep, these people don’t even read what they are writing. Quite sad.

who are “these people” and what are they writing that they don’t read?

 

[I7guy]

who are “these people” and what are they writing that they don’t read?

If I'm understanding the passive/aggressive nature of the postings, "you people" are those who are asking questions and pointing out the nobody is denying that some people got sick from the vaccine, but the percentage is small and rare. The one of us asked how many reported cases of people getting sick from the vaccine after 60 days in the last 100+ years. None of those who are attempting to justify their position was able to answer that.

It wasn't a random question, I heard some expert on the news give that statistic. So basically while one may say we don't know the long term affects of the vaccine, there are a hundred years of history to draw on with billions of people.

 

[avz]

It wasn't a random question, I heard some expert on the news give that statistic. So basically while one may say we don't know the long term affects of the vaccine, there are a hundred years of history to draw on with billions of people.

Let me guess. None of the so called “experts” out there is willing to take any personal responsibility for the outcome’s of the mRNA vaccinations despite “hundred years of history to draw on”.
It will still be an individual’s responsibility if the choice they make will turn out to be bad, just like it is an individual’s fault if they smoke or have diabetes.

 

[I7guy]

Let me guess. None of the so called “experts” out there is willing to take any personal responsibility for the outcome’s of the mRNA vaccinations despite “hundred years of history to draw on”.
It will still be an individual’s responsibility if the choice they make will turn out to be bad, just like it is an individual’s fault if they smoke or have diabetes.

Correct. And if you have cancer and decide not to get it treated, whatever happens is on you...although nothing is guaranteed.

 

[seadragon]

Whoops, better get vaccinated!

Kinda funny that one anti-vaxxer in this article has the name Outlaw. And this guy isn’t even willing to take regular covid tests in order to keep his job because it’s ”uncomfortable“.

“Like all teachers in the state, Mr Outlaw was offered an alternative of weekly testing but said he viewed that as an "unnecessary medical procedure" that was uncomfortable.”

Oh well… there will be someone else to gladly take their place.

Covid vaccine: Why these US workers won't get jabbed

A teacher, a nurse and an IT worker say why they would rather lose their jobs than get jabbed.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[A MacBook lover]

Pilots, ATC, are going on strike.

Nobody sees what’s wrong in forcing someone out of work and unable to provide for their family?

 

[nathansz]

Pilots, ATC, are going on strike.

Nobody sees what’s wrong in forcing someone out of work and unable to provide for their family?

who’s forcing anyone out of work?

if someone chooses to give up a decent job because of some nonsense they read on the internet than that’s on them

 

[seadragon]

Pilots, ATC, are going on strike.

Nobody sees what’s wrong in forcing someone out of work and unable to provide for their family?

All this talk about “freedoms”. They‘re still free to choose. But choices have consequences. These people are freely choosing to not comply with their employer’s requirement and losing their jobs.

Lack of freedom would be forcibly being hogtied and stuck with a needle. That’s not what’s happening.