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All this talk about “freedoms”. They‘re still free to choose. But choices have consequences. These people are freely choosing to not comply with their employer’s requirement and losing their jobs.

Lack of freedom would be forcibly being hogtied and stuck with a needle. That’s not what’s happening.
Don’t you think that “choices” seem to have consequences only for the “little people”?

Removal of freedom doesn’t necessary means physical abuse.
 
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who’s forcing anyone out of work?

if someone chooses not to work because they’ve bought in to a bunch of conspiracy theories and are unwilling to help protect those around them from infection then that’s on them

How do the vaccines “help people around them”? I’m vaccinated against polio and typhoid and a slew of other things. I don’t need you to be vaccinated against those diseases for my vaccinations to work. This junk-science phenomenon is new with Covid.
 
Don’t you think that “choices” seem to have consequences only for the “little people”?

Removal of freedom doesn’t necessary means physical abuse.
I don’t know who these “little people” are you keep referring to, but big people (ie. grown ups) know that if your job requires you to be vaccinated , then either to do or lose that job. Simple.
 
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How do the vaccines “help people around them”? I’m vaccinated against polio and typhoid and a slew of other things. I don’t need you to be vaccinated against those diseases for my vaccinations to work. This junk-science phenomenon is new with Covid.

yes, we’ve established time and again that you don’t understand the basics of how vaccines work. if you haven’t been able to grasp this yet almost two years in then you are clearly either unwilling to or incapable of understanding. it would surely be difficult to believe all the nonsense you proselytize here if you did
 
yes, we’ve established time and again that you don’t understand the basics of how vaccines work. if you haven’t been able to grasp this yet almost two years in then you are clearly either unwilling to or incapable of understanding. it would surely be difficult to believe all the nonsense you proselytize here if you did

My typhoid and polio vaccinations don’t work unless you also get vaccinated against typhoid and polio?

That’s really funny.

One of us is, indeed, ignorant of “the basics of how vaccines work.”

Hint: It’s not me.
 
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How do the vaccines “help people around them”? I’m vaccinated against polio and typhoid and a slew of other things. I don’t need you to be vaccinated against those diseases for my vaccinations to work. This junk-science phenomenon is new with Covid.
So many these days don't give a flying **** about anything that doesn't affect them personally. Vaccinations are necessary not only to protect the person getting the shot but also everyone they come into contact with - if you get sick, you are capable of getting others sick. No vaccination is 100% effective. You still have a small chance of getting sick if exposed to someone who is sick. Having others vaccinated against covid, or polio, means there will be less of that virus going around - less opportunity to get infected.

If you are vaccinated and come into contact with the virus, you probably won't get sick (that's the vaccine working). If, however, you are vaccinated and don't come into contact with the virus, because everyone you run into is also vaccinated, then you have zero chance of getting sick, instead of a very small chance. This is how herd immunity works.

People who say, "well, I'm healthy, I don't need the covid vaccine, my immune system will protect me", are basically saying, "**** everyone else, I think I'll be fine". That's a ****** way to interact with society. Oh, and there are a lot of people on ventilators, clogging up ICUs around the country right now, dying of covid, who said precisely that, "I'm healthy, I don't need the vaccine." And a lot of them likely infected other people along the way, simply because they don't care about anyone else, only about themselves.

(And to "my immune system will protect me": the vaccine is basically giving your immune system a dossier, saying, "hey, watch out for this bad guy, start building up your defenses now". Putting your faith in your immune system and then going out of your way to not help your immune system prepare, makes no sense.)
 
My typhoid and polio vaccinations don’t work unless you also get vaccinated against typhoid and polio?

That’s really funny.

One of us is, indeed, ignorant of “the basics of how vaccines work.”

Hint: It’s not me.
basically yes, that’s exactly right. part of the reason your typhoid vaccination works is because nearly everyone around you is also vaccinated against typhoid. this prevents typhoid from spreading around and mutating in to stronger and more vaccine resistant variants
 
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The point is that you seem to think that the employer is always right. As you say: Simple.
Vaccination is a medical procedure and employer can possibly have a say in it.

no one is saying the employer is always right. they are simply following global scientific and public health consensus
 
So many these days don't give a flying **** about anything that doesn't affect them personally. Vaccinations are necessary not only to protect the person getting the shot but also everyone they come into contact with - if you get sick, you are capable of getting others sick. No vaccination is 100% effective. You still have a small chance of getting sick if exposed to someone who is sick. Having others vaccinated against covid, or polio, means there will be less of that virus going around - less opportunity to get infected.

If you are vaccinated and come into contact with the virus, you probably won't get sick (that's the vaccine working). If, however, you are vaccinated and don't come into contact with the virus, because everyone you run into is also vaccinated, then you have zero chance of getting sick, instead of a very small chance. This is how herd immunity works.

People who say, "well, I'm healthy, I don't need the covid vaccine, my immune system will protect me", are basically saying, "**** everyone else, I think I'll be fine". That's a ****** way to interact with society. Oh, and there are a lot of people on ventilators, clogging up ICUs around the country right now, dying of covid, who said precisely that, "I'm healthy, I don't need the vaccine." And a lot of them likely infected other people along the way, simply because they don't care about anyone else, only about themselves.

(And to "my immune system will protect me": the vaccine is basically giving your immune system a dossier, saying, "hey, watch out for this bad guy, start building up your defenses now". Putting your faith in your immune system and then going out of your way to not help your immune system prepare, makes no sense.)

Another wall of text that doesn’t actually say anything.

If the vaccines protect the vaccinated, then there’s no reason for the vaccinated to be so fanatical about forcing everyone else to get ”the jabs.” And yet the “fully vaccinated” Covid cultists make al Qaeda seem reasonable.
 
I don’t know who these “little people” are you keep referring to, but big people (ie. grown ups) know that if your job requires you to be vaccinated , then either to do or lose that job. Simple.
I'm constantly amused at healthcare workers who don't want to be vaccinated. When I started at a hospital, they checked my vaccination status and required more. I wasn't clinical but there was a chance that vaccines would be needed. I wanted the job, and I did what was necessary.
 
Another wall of text that doesn’t actually say anything.

If the vaccines protect the vaccinated, then there’s no reason for the vaccinated to be so fanatical about forcing everyone else to get ”the jabs.” And yet the “fully vaccinated” Covid cultists make al Qaeda seem reasonable.
Sorry, I was assuming a certain level of reading comprehension.
 
basically yes, that’s exactly right. part of the reason your typhoid vaccination works is because nearly everyone around you is also vaccinated against typhoid. this prevents typhoid from spreading around and mutating in to stronger and more vaccine resistant variants

That’s hilarious. You should look up the typhoid vaccination rates in some of the most affected areas.
 
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Another wall of text that doesn’t actually say anything.

If the vaccines protect the vaccinated, then there’s no reason for the vaccinated to be so fanatical about forcing everyone else to get ”the jabs.” And yet the “fully vaccinated” Covid cultists make al Qaeda seem reasonable.

Another wall of text that doesn’t actually say anything.

If the vaccines protect the vaccinated, then there’s no reason for the vaccinated to be so fanatical about forcing everyone else to get ”the jabs.” And yet the “fully vaccinated” Covid cultists make al Qaeda seem reasonable.

Are you actually still incapable of understanding how vaccines work or are you just just putting on a show?

it’s been explained to you dozens of times in these forums alone
 
Are you actually still incapable of understanding how vaccines work or are you just just putting on a show?

it’s been explained to you dozens of times in these forums alone

No, it hasn’t. You guys post a lot of unscientific gibberish.
 
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