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No it didn't. However, your comments don't actually ring true. You can't convince yourself to the truth. Wow.


Is simply an opinion, but actually doesn't say anything. It's a motherhood statement without substance. How about some examples? How have they convinced themselves out of a reality?


Is it really an insight? Firstly, it's an insult to their customers, and no doubt without foundation. Good on you for that. Clever move right there.

It's just comments trying to agitate otherwise you'd actually provide examples. Show some examples of how they have done something because they think their customers are going to remain loyal to their brand? Do you mean when they replaced keyboards, or gave away iphones cases, because these are absolute examples of mistakes they have made and they treated their customers with respect enough to address the issue, even if it was with leverage. I think I have never had Kool-Aid (whatever that is). Maybe you can send me some. Is it like Lemonade?


In your opinion without foundation. I would suggest based on the absolute fact that Apple having a heap of lawyers available and people who are actually aware of all the moving parts, they would be in a better position to make that decision, than you or I. I doubt they are so stupid as to play that "popular" game to appease internet warriors, here or elsewhere who just come for a fight.

Edit: Do you remember when Jobs introduced the iPhone for the first time? Wasn’t the keynote the first time they actually got it working properly even though bits were falling off. Yeah he was Honest Steve…. And there were the many years he rejected his daughter (Lisa) as his own. Until he was forced after a paternity test. Yeah he was Moral Steve as well.
He's got a point. And you are very good with words.

At this point, I feel companies need to PROVE they are not nefarious, not just say things.
 
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So you are absolutely, positively convinced that Apple is guilty as charged. Might you enlighten us with how you came to this conclusion? Or is the usual “It’s Apple so they are guilty as hell. Fire Tim Cook!"
Unless any company proves, convincingly, they are not doing anything deemed "bad" with my data, I assume they are. I then try to not give them too much/everything. And I cross off every box and use every blocker and shield known to man. But I really need a Pi-Hole
 
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He's got a point. And you are very good with words.

At this point, I feel companies need to PROVE they are not nefarious, not just say things.
I agree. I like companies to provide proof first. And I like people to support their arguments too.

Making random comments without support mean nothing and that’s all I asked for.

Cheers
 
All are spying on us with the consent from the regulatory authorities (and help them as well in turn)! But we are made to feel secured by some through continuous bombardment of commercials mentioning about privacy, safety and security! Most of those believe this are victims of bombardment of marketing materials!
 
Quite a long time since litigation has started. Anyway good to see that there is some conclusion now. Apple's privacy policies are good but looks like they could have been explained better.
 
"After the 2019 scandal about contractors listening to accidental ‌Siri‌ recordings"

accidental. Right. lol.

back in the day when I worked for Leapforce, as a subcontractor for Google, I must have listened to endless thousands of recordings (sometimes brief phrases, sometimes several seconds of dialogue). 100% of those recordings were clearly and obviously when the phone was just in the room. Zero of them were deliberate queries. Interesting how Google escaped a similar scandal when they were doing the same thing.

btw: There was one company (can't recall its name of the top of my head) that recruited "raters" for Apple. They did the same work we did, for the most part.
Testedlion was not suicidal
 
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So...a lawsuit based on human brain making non existent associations for which the court found no evidence is worth 95 MILLION dollars. Go go lawyers I guess?
No, Apple paid a settlement to stop the investigation as always. Had they continued, they would have needed to allow access into their dealings. Go go hush money.
 
I always say out loud even when I’m alone


“I WANT TO MAKE MORE MONEY”

still waiting for ads showing me how to
Wait I get like a hundred emails every week about how to make money from home with just a tiny upfront cost. I’ve also got royals offering me money because they have banking issues. I won’t go for those because I’m anti establishment but I can give them your number if you like 🤑
 
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Clearly yoi don’t understand what the CSAM scanning was then.

How is scanning a hash of a known image database of CSAM open to abuse? Whatever. If you don’t care, you don’t know.
This is exactly the argument Adobe made when they started scanning everything in Creative Cloud. Of course, it came out that they were training AI, but surely Apple has no such incentive.
 
Complying with the law is not okay now? Because it’s outside of the United States?

Oh Steve. No they can comply with the law but lets not pretend that the CCP's laws respect people's privacy.

They are also exactly why Apple shouldn't be implementing mass surveillance of their devices because they are exactly the kind of regime that would abuse it.
 
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Siri? I thought it was meta listening to us. this still happens all the time. every time I discuss something it gets advertised to me on Facebook and instagram.
That was my first thought, does this person have any Meta apps installed on their iPhone. Meta is always trying to bypass Apple’s security.
 
All are spying on us with the consent from the regulatory authorities (and help them as well in turn)! But we are made to feel secured by some through continuous bombardment of commercials mentioning about privacy, safety and security! Most of those believe this are victims of bombardment of marketing materials!

Correct. People forget they were all implicated in mass surveillance and the whistleblower is treated like an enemy of the state by the US. Can only assume there was some truth in what he was alleging.

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Let me fix that title.

Apple to pay you a measly $20 bucks to Settle Siri Spying Lawsuit.
 
I just love these type of stories. People Runamuck thinking their privacy has been invited. Some extent. If you haven’t done anything wrong There’s nothing to worry about
This is a very dangerous take on things.

You aren’t concerned with privacy because you have nothing to hide? It’s that age old saying now “that’s like saying you don’t care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say”

Humans at their base deserve liberty and freedom. It doesn’t matter if they have anything to hide or not.
 
This is a very dangerous take on things.

You aren’t concerned with privacy because you have nothing to hide? It’s that age old saying now “that’s like saying you don’t care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say”

Humans at their base deserve liberty and freedom. It doesn’t matter if they have anything to hide or not.
I agree. When it is all said and done, they can listen all they want because I truly have nothing to hide. However, it is the fact that they lie to us about it, that is the problem. Also, law abiding citizens shouldn't be under 24 hour surveillance in the United States, or anywhere else really.
 


Apple will pay $95 million to settle a proposed class action lawsuit involving Siri spying accusations, reports Reuters. The lawsuit alleges that Apple recorded conversations captured with accidental Siri activations, and then shared information from those conversations with third-party advertisers.

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Two plaintiffs claimed that after speaking about products like Air Jordan shoes and Olive Garden, their devices showed ads for those products, while another said he received ads for a surgical treatment after discussing it privately with his doctor.

The lawsuit dates back to 2019, after a report outed the private conversations that contractors were privy to when Siri was accidentally activated. Apple was using contractors to evaluate Siri recordings to make improvements to the service, and employees claimed to have heard confidential medical information, drug deals, intimate moments, and other private data.

Apple was never secretive about the fact that some Siri recordings were analyzed by humans, but the company's privacy terms at the time did not explicitly state that there was human oversight of Siri. The customers that filed the lawsuit said that Apple did not inform consumers that they are "regularly being recorded without consent," and they claimed they would not have purchased Apple devices had they known about the Siri recordings.

While the lawsuit initially focused on Apple's lack of disclosure, the first filing was dismissed in February 2021 because it did not include enough concrete data about the recordings that Apple allegedly collected. An amended complaint that focused on Siri recordings used for "targeted advertising" was refiled in September 2021, and that was allowed to move forward.

There has been no evidence that Apple ever provided Siri recordings or information from Siri recordings to advertisers, and Apple's privacy policies have long made it clear that any data collected from Siri for the purpose of improving the feature is anonymized and not associated with a specific user.

In the settlement filing, Apple says that it "continues to deny any and all alleged wrongdoing and liability, specifically denies each of the Plaintiffs' contentions and claims, and continues to deny that the Plaintiffs' claims and allegations would be suitable for class action status." Apple is settling to avoid further costs of litigation.

The settlement has received preliminary approval from the court. According to the filing, all current or former owners or purchasers of a Siri device in the United States whose confidential or private communications were obtained by Apple between September 17, 2014 and December 31, 2024 are considered class members and could be eligible for a payment.

A settlement website will be set up to identify those eligible to participate within 45 days, with Apple required to share contact information for customers who purchased a device with Siri capabilities. Claim information will be collected until May 15, 2025, after which time the settlement will be finalized and payments will go out to eligible customers. Each class member will be able to submit claims for up to five Siri devices, receiving up to $20 for each one. The actual settlement payment will depend on the total number of valid claims that are submitted.

After the 2019 scandal about contractors listening to accidental Siri recordings, Apple temporarily suspended its Siri evaluation program, stopped using contractors, and implemented options that allow users to delete Siri recordings and block them from being listened to. In later updates, Apple moved some Siri processing on-device, reducing the content that's uploaded to its servers.

Article Link: Apple to Shell Out $95 Million to Settle Siri Spying Lawsuit
I'm just glad I don't have any offspring.

The whole world is going down the drain before our eyes.
 
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