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Indeed. The tablet market for Apple has not reached its peak yet. There is still lots more useful features to be built into iOS.

I'm hoping there will be an update to some note taking app that would introduce hand writing recognition.

There's a lot of inertia in business, but once the damn bursts, the change will be profound.
One thing that tablets profoundly express is the whole Agile dev, lean manufacturing, etc incremental, quick feedback world were docs are modified in very small parts and bounced around all over being stiched together as they go by a whole company, with some versions getting released out.

Products/docs are built organically, collaboratively anywhere a person is, not at one spot, at one desk, by one person.

The PC, and even the laptop in its almost desktop version, was built for this one person works a long time and then releases something that's then commented on (or savaged sometimes); the document then coming back to the initial author.

In this case, there are some release coordinators that are in the system, but the document belongs to the group, is seen by the group early, is more heavily influenced by the group and external actors/factors, feedbacks occur from anyone, anywhere, the documents (and what is represents) is in contact with the world and tested against it (in the form of a tablet someone is carrying) anywhere they may be.

You could say, well, then there is no responsibility for the product, this is design by committee... In design by committee, things are put into something with very little real world feedback. It's more power to put something in there that counts. In this new way of doing thing, if someone puts something in there that's plain dumb, it will get rectified by the environment (a kind of business level micro evolution that doesn't take down the whole company). Tablets are embodiment of the MVP at the heart of a new bread of swift businesses.
 
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I disagree, I don't think the Surface is better than the iPad Pro, in fact I'm glad Apple hasn't released a hybrid device not everyone wants one. The iPad Pro will be useful to a lot of people but not everyone, artists and creatives (such as myself) in particular.

Had the iPad Pro come with OS X, then it would have been useful to artists and commoners.
 
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Had the iPad Pro come with OS X, then it would have been useful to artists and commoners.

Had the iPad Pro come with OS X, it would no longer be an iPad. It would be a Mac Tablet. And that's been tried already. The company is called Axiotron and the product is called a ModBook. It's a terrible trade off, and it's not even a touch device. Probably because OS X stinks as a touch OS. There will always be distinct experiences between desktop OSes and mobile ones. One OS is optimized for mouse and trackpad input on a vertical monitor, the other is optimized for a touchscreen (and possibly pen) input on a monitor you can use while holding. If the tech existed that could successfully marry the two someone would have done it already. But it doesn't, which is why these hybrid devices still generally suck. The day someone gets it right, a whole lot of people will line up and shower them with their money but until then, a tablet will be a tablet and a laptop will be a laptop. BTW I AM an artist and my current iPad serves me quite well with Procreate and a Jot Touch. Thanks for playing. I'm going back to sleep.
 
Had the iPad Pro come with OS X, then it would have been useful to artists and commoners.

Not everyone needs OS X, the iPad Pro doesn't need a desktop OS, putting one in a tablet would be a terrible idea. The iPad is a separate device to the desktop/laptop.
 
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How did you place an order, it's not available for pre-order.

Work with the Apple government guys for years. Any time there is a new product we want I simply tell them and they make sure it's all taken care of and I get one launch date or earlier.
 
You mean even a non geek could see why a desktop OS on a tablet is total rubbish.

You still live in the caves, isn't it

Had the iPad Pro come with OS X, then it would have been useful to artists and commoners.

iOS was designed for tablets and cell phones, a desktop OS will never be superior on it.
The utter rubbish you speak. You cannot be serious. You must be trying to increase your posts or have some other agenda, but making sense isn't one of them.
 
I understand that for everything else but Apple, but since they have so few introductions throughout the year, I think that choosing Veteran's/Remembrance day is in poor taste.

Heck, they don't do 9/11, so I think that having 11/11 would be a concern to them.
And 11/11 is set to an online shopping festival, in mainland China, for a different reason, apparently meaningless.
 
not to derail: how do you get photos from your camera to the iPad? how do you edit the RAWs?

Three possible ways that I'm aware of:

1. Lightning SD Card Reader

2. Lightning to USB Camera Adapter

3. Many cameras (including some pro cameras) offer built-in WiFi. My Olympus OM-D EM-1 has an adequate app for iPhone/iPad that allows me to link to the camera anywhere I am, download pictures or control the camera remotely. Very convenient for making sure everyone's in the shot for family pictures, like last night on Halloween.

Hope that helps. And, as others have noted, some iOS photo-editing apps allow you to manipulate RAW files if you are so inclined. I mostly use it for quick adjustments in the field for my wife and I to share on FB/messaging apps. Then I can do the more intensive work at home on a more full-featured device.

There are some people that this device just isn't going to work for. But there are many that are going to find this useful for the ways they work. Personally, I'm very curious, but it may fit the needs of my family (and my wants:)) more than those of others. To each his/her own!
 
If I even want to get one, I will surely wait for second generation, given the fact of iPad 1 and iPad 2, as well as iPad mini 1 and iPad mini 2.
Oh, why there is no force touch? A pure no no for me.
 
The product isn't perfect, and there are some omissions I wish were included (SD slot, 3D Touch, perhaps expanded iOS capabilities), but I'm very excited for it overall. Many of us have been waiting for an iPad with proper stylus support for a long time. It's finally here, assuming Pencil lives up to the hype. I think it's really going to make the iPad a more useful and interesting product, and the larger screen is going to be a pleasure to use. Weight is the only thing that has me concerned, but I figure I used the gen 1 iPad for a few years so I doubt I'll have a problem with it.
 
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iOS was designed for tablets and cell phones, a desktop OS will never be superior on it.
The utter rubbish you speak. You cannot be serious. You must be trying to increase your posts or have some other agenda, but making sense isn't one of them.

So if I don't agree with you then I must be having some agenda, is it? All opinions opposite yours are rubbish?
 
So if I don't agree with you then I must be having some agenda, is it? All opinions opposite yours are rubbish?

Dude your reply to my post was "You still live in the caves, isn't it"

What the hell kind of response is that? It is has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or what I'm talking about. You're not even saying you agree or disagree to anything I've said. You're simply posting garbage and taking up space.
 
So. I really love the idea of possibly going iPad Pro over a MacBook or MacBook Air. However, I'm worried that websites will see the Pro a mobile device. This would really put me and others at a disadvantage as much of the work I do online would be limited. I know that you can request the "desktop" version. But this doesn't always work out.

Does anyone know how this device will be seen online?

not to derail: how do you get photos from your camera to the iPad? how do you edit the RAWs?
Great question! Can't wait to hear the answer to this.
 
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Dude your reply to my post was "You still live in the caves, isn't it"

What the hell kind of response is that? It is has absolutely nothing to do with the topic or what I'm talking about. You're not even saying you agree or disagree to anything I've said. You're simply posting garbage and taking up space.

It was in response to your sarcastic remark 'You mean even a non geek could see why a desktop OS on a tablet is total rubbish'. Don't worry about space - there's lot of it for your garbage as well.
 
For the people who want force touch on this iPad: why? I have it on the 6S. I've used it like 4 times. It's a cool novelty, but not really that much faster than tapping into the app in most cases. I forget about it 99% of the time.

I for one am excited about this iPad, and plan to finally upgrade from my iPad 3. I am a designer though, so this iPad seems much more directed toward me than previous models.
 
It is a good question: Who exactly is going to buy this device and why? o_O
1. Artists that need to go back to their roots and feel paper and pencil right from the start and in... digital! The other real alternative for them was to use a desktop machine+wacom and a lot of space for the combo to work, but it wasnt still the same. Wacom tablets are very different to this. All that you will need now are your laps...
2. Office users that want something easy to help them do their work without the real hassle of carrying a heavy laptop around. the pro has the muscle and the screen to help someone create documents of any sort...
3. New stuff that is coming and we are not even aware off, because of the powerful processor of this machine.
 
So assuming preorders are out of the mix, what time would you suggest going to the Apple Store? Will they be sold upon opening? Or will they sell later in the afternoon? I was at the mall when iPad 2 was released and they made us all wait in a line until the afternoon.

Hoping they do preorders but if not, I'll have to snag it in store.
 
So assuming preorders are out of the mix, what time would you suggest going to the Apple Store? Will they be sold upon opening? Or will they sell later in the afternoon? I was at the mall when iPad 2 was released and they made us all wait in a line until the afternoon.

Hoping they do preorders but if not, I'll have to snag it in store.
I'm hoping in the next few days we get launch details from Apple.
 
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