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Apple to Stop Including EarPods With Every iPhone Sold in France From Next Week
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I would love to see the statistics on that "most people".
When was the last time the iPhone came with a USB C charger again? If the consumer happened to skip those years of the iPhone, then that means the consumer don't have the charger from the iPhone, wouldn't it?
Last time I checked, it was only the iPhone 11 year that came with a 18W USB C block (not the 20W).
What people say in these forms isn’t the same thing as what happens at the Apple store or any other store. A good example is the iPhone mini. With the interest shown in these forms one might think that should be the number one selling iPhone. It’s barely selling.
The fact is people just won’t turn down free stuff. You didn’t see people leaving their chargers at the Apple store when they already had one and it was included. “Oh just leave this here and if somebody needs it they can have it”. Things that were never said. Unfortunately it’s just human nature. I remember being offered free can cozies and I’ve taken them. I’ve never used a can cozy in my life so I’m sure they ended up in some landfill. For it to work there would have to have enough cost associated with it so the customer has to decide if it’s worth spending money as in do they really need it.
Refurbished MacBooks come in plain white boxes I think. I’m not saying they couldn’t come up with some sort of packaging but it wouldn’t be a Ziploc bag. Perhaps it could be a cheap cardboard box I don’t know I’m sure Apple could figure that out.
I think you’re onto something that perhaps if they package these items in some sort of commercial packaging and had them available at least customers would have a choice to get them without the retail package waste.
I hate to say it but if you really like wired headphones you might consider buying a few pair now because I suspect within five or so years your choices are going to be very limited.
To be completely factual,
Apple stopped reporting sales of their iPhone units sold.
Apple has also public stated that they wanted to focus on higher margins within Apple services a.k.a. SAAS in which are primarily focused/integrated on the iPhone and iPad users.
So its a little deeper than "just the sticker price" of an iPhone.
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So do I. I still use them on my computer and carry a set in my bag; with the appropriate dongle. ?
I have some large number of lightning cables (20?) from over the past 10+ years. I think a total of 3 have frayed enough to have gone bad. Most are still in great shape.
so there are no children growing up to the age where they get their first smartphone?
But you don’t just need a USBC charger to charge an iphone. If you are coming from an iPhone which came with a USBA cable and charger you can continue to use that with your new iPhone.
If you skipped that model phone you’re still fine. You can still use the charger that came with an iPhone 5 on an iPhone 13.
Only the cable that comes with the iPhone 13 won’t work without a USB-C charging brick. I think it was a mistake for Apple to include that.
Absolutely there are, but do they or do they not make up the bulk of people buying iPhones?
It just does not feel intuatively right that of the 200 million or so iPhones sold every year the bulk of them are sold to people who have never owned an iPhone before, especially with the smartphone saturation rate as it is.
I’m sure there is and that small percentage of the market goes out and buys a charging adapter or maybe get a hand me down from their parents.
If most people don’t need something then including it just creates e-waste
You're missing the most important part.
REQUESTING these items. YOU MUST ASK
NOT being offered. THEY ARE NOT ASKING YOU
there's a big difference in the "human nature" you speak of when these different positions are actually used.
I never said I really liked wired headphones.
I said it would be nice if I could get them if I requested them (as a back up if I forget my AirPods or they run out of battery) at no cost.
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And to add to that point, Apple stopped including the brick in the 11 NOW, while it came with the phone in 2019.
It is indeed a mistake that Apple made when they claim consumers have the charging brick, and then include a cable that they can't use without buying the brick.
Requesting them would just be some sort of checkbox on the online order unless you make people go through a bunch of hoops and fill out a form and mail it in.
In the Apple store it would be “Can I have whatever I can get for free”. People would know what they can get for free and would ask for it at the store. This is why I said it could not be free.
Think of it this way if McDonald’s had a deal where you can go to the drive-through and when you order the coffee you can ask for a free biscuit. Human nature is most people would ask for that biscuit even if they had no intention of ordering a biscuit. I’ve gone to restaurants and they said do you want an extra order of fries because we have them and I’m like sure. Did I really need two orders of fries hell no but I have taken them.
To fix the environmental mess we need a whole new way of thinking when it comes to recycling and wasting things. In a perfect world people would only take and use what they needed. Unfortunately in the real world that’s not how things work. People will take everything they can get.
No,
Its more like having to ask for free ketchup. Some people want it and "need" it to go with what they're ordering.
Some people don't want it or need it. It would be up to the employee to wait for the customer to request it.
This is my last response towards you because you're clearly not understanding the point and perspective.
I can understand where you are coming from, but that would negate the financial opportunity this move also brings for Apple to sell chargers and cables at the same time as reducing their environmental impact.
Or those items were always included in the box as free extras like when Currys sell you a laptop with a free mouse and shoulder bag.
Can you send them to me? I am thinking of stockpiling them...
I think the EarPods are the best best headphones ever, a severely underrated Apple Product, and this is why:
- Nearly indestructible - both cables and pods take lots of abuse without breaking.
- Great sound quality for the price
- Amazing mic - much better than the mic on my $300 Sennheisers (thanks Sennheiser - WTF). Not sure how they do it but the iPhone mic is very good at cutting out ambient sound - makes no sense it would be so good at this price!
- They don't give me a headache - no frying brains since they're not wireless (looking at my never-used Airpods... Airpods are such a great product except for the fact that they give me a headache and long term likely brain cancer... anyway the convenience isn't worth getting a headache, cancer or not.)
- They're wired - no BT setup nonsense, no reduced audio quality (again WTF airpods...)
- Tiny and portable
- Pretty much waterproof - they survive the washing machine
I know there must be a lot of good headphones out there, but how many are $19? And how many of them have a good mic? Even my Bose QC headset had terrible ambient noice on the mic.... EarPods are my weapon of choice for Zoom calls, and never any issues, even when in very noisy places, e.g. Cafe, or on the street with traffic going by. This microphone is much better than it has any right to be.
Haven't found a better all around headset to date. I have expensive headphones that sound much better of course, but are also way bigger, and all have mic issues.
Haha - so actually the environmental equation is far from settled.
No headphones - now I have to go buy them, causing more impact.
Environmental impact is just such a genius marketing strategy.
"Hey guys, we now give you less stuff. But we keep the price the same. And you're going to love it, and cheer us on!! How? Because, the environment!!"
Lol. Can't believe people fall for this s.... typical hypocritical corporate BS. For profit corporations at best solve problems that they themselves created - sometimes... and as long as it has zero impact on the bottom line... these old paradigm corporates will never make any meaningful impact as far as regenerating the world is concerned. Because everything else they do is the exact opposite. Things that used to be great - like Tim Cook cutting prices and getting deals like an absolute madman, but from Chinese companies which you can be sure are cutting down everything they possibly can on their end, anything they get away with, they will do. Think that's good for the environment - I can guarantee you it's not.
